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Best fighter jet in the future?

Best fighter jet in the future

  • f-22 Raptor (USA)

    Votes: 59 34.9%
  • f-35 II (USA)

    Votes: 15 8.9%
  • Sukhoi su-35BM (Russia)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Saab jas 39 Gripen (Sweden)

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • F-16E/F (USA)

    Votes: 4 2.4%
  • Dassault Rafale (France)

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • F/A 18 E/F Super Hornet (USA)

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Mig-35 (Russia)

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA (Russia)

    Votes: 83 49.1%
  • Eurofighter Typhoon (UK,Germany,Italy)

    Votes: 3 1.8%

  • Total voters
    169
  • Poll closed .
The F-22 is more a air superiority fighter.
and f35 multirole.
the f35 has better manoevrebility then f-22.
if you ask me in a dogfight.. against those new russian fighters..
i say f35 wins. dont matter if those canards help for more manoevres for the russians.

I still dont know why people calls f22 best aircraft.. while f35 is better.
everything is better of it.
operational range of f22 is higher..
f22 is a bit better in air to air but litterly the rest.
like the REST! is on the f35 the best.
avoinics,techs,armament.
everything.
My vote is for f35 already.
Its the best now and in the few decades and even the best when those chinese and russians planes comes.
 
Voted For PAK-FA Becoz ....

If we read characteristics of F-22 and MiG 1.44 and Sukhoi 47, we will see that the russians are better. So T-50 I think will have a lot of tech of Su-47 and MiG 1.44.
If is better or not T-50 against F-22 and F-35 we will se only in combat (after many years).

What are we doing are only speculations and opinions.

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Both were just tech demonstrators, i'm not even sure either of them were fitted with major avionics, also neither were 'stealth' however, the pak-fa does have some impressive avionics or atleast the little we know about them. The main focus now is improving the airframe for minimizing the rcs.
 
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The F-22 is more a air superiority fighter.
and f35 multirole.
the f35 has better manoevrebility then f-22.
if you ask me in a dogfight.. against those new russian fighters..
i say f35 wins. dont matter if those canards help for more manoevres for the russians.

I still dont know why people calls f22 best aircraft.. while f35 is better.
everything is better of it.
operational range of f22 is higher..
f22 is a bit better in air to air but litterly the rest.
like the REST! is on the f35 the best.
avoinics,techs,armament.
everything.
My vote is for f35 already.
Its the best now and in the few decades and even the best when those chinese and russians planes comes.

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Dude !!!!! what are you on about ???

The F22 IS currently the air supremacy fighter to have/beat, it is the standard that others must meet to be survivable ( not dominant, just survivable ) on the battlespace... the F 35 is nowhere near that performance... it is not even on the same league as the F22.

As it stands now, there is NO other plane on that league...
and this is were we sorta put our money on, that since the PAK FA is out, now there will soon be two planes on that league.
 
Ok greek guy.
you say f35 is far from f22.
while lockeed martin and usa says f35 is better then f22.
but f22's air to air performence are slightly better then f35.
they are all lies.
you made f22 and f35.
 
Ok greek guy.
you say f35 is far from f22.
while lockeed martin and usa says f35 is better then f22.
but f22's air to air performence are slightly better then f35.
they are all lies.
you made f22 and f35.

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Please spare us the sarcasm.. (+ you ain't good at it)

I must admit I didn't realise you were talking about my phrase, I do however find your reasoning behind the "noone decided anything" thing wrong.
Sure...

1) It's not just a question of resources and I think as a US military man by now you should have learned that just because the US does it a certain way , that doesn't mean the whole world does it that way.
Why not? And I meant that as a serious question. Do you think no admiral in the world would like to have an aircraft carrier under his command? You are missing the point. Very seldom is a weapon system so specialized that no one else want put it on his 'Christmas list'. I cannot think of any at the moment but the F-22 is not one of those weapons. The F-22's mission is no different than the F-15: To achieve air superiority over an airspace in the shortest possible time. Show me a single air force that does not have the F-22 on its 'Christmas list'. This is like high level auto racing. If a team employ supercomputers to calculate the best spoiler camber, you had better bet your next paycheck the other teams would be wanting to do the same. Whether the other teams can afford the supercomputers or not is beside the point, but when they see the trophies and the pretty girls are with the team that uses the supercomputers...

2) The SR-71 thing...man you are so all over the place I can't even begin to think were to start..let me see...

a) First of all the MiG 25 and the MiG 31 are capable of almost the altitude the SR-71 can achieve...for an interception it's more than enough
The difference here is that the SR-71 can SUSTAIN those high Mach and altitude.

b) The SR-71 had no sensors on board to tell it if a plane was after it... I wonder how your SR-71 pilots were going to simply go stratospheare if they saw a chaser !!! I don't think a SAR is a good airborn AA radar ... i pretty much doubt it ...
Wrong...The SR-71's intelligence sensors, optical, ELINT and radar, are ALSO fully capable of acting as target sensors, not counting the standard radar warning sets.

sr-71_front.jpg


See the two 'dimples' on the chines? They are ASARs and they are fully capable of informing the crew of any rising threats. Further...SR-71 pilots usually can spot, ahead of their track, orbit contrails of fighters rising in altitude. Once a contrail disappeared or gradually loses visibility, that is a sign a fighter is leaving said orbit to attempt an interception.

C) 12 or 13 SR-71s were lost... who tells me besides your bloated US ego that some were not due to interceptions ( I don't believe it myself but from an arguments point of view..hey...)

So please.. sarcasm ...not
Please...If this is an attempt at humor...Stop...You ain't good at it.

SR-71 Online - Blackbird Losses

Viktor Belenko informed US on how the Soviet Air Force usually failed to intercept and shoot down an SR-71. What he said is true -- That the majority of missiles exploit aerodynamics and the thin air at which the SR-71 cruises would render any missile quite unmaneuverable. The SR-71 does incorporate some RCS predictive methods in its design but nowhere as effective as today's technology. Still, by the time the SR-71 is detected, its Mach 3+ speed alone would leave any missile behind, even though if the missile has a higher top speed, simply because of being out-distanced. Belenko revealed that the Soviet Air Force did attempted head-on interceptions but Soviet missiles could not compensate for the high closing speed.

Mig25 VS SR-71
Ability to intercept an SR-71: Belenko states the Mig-25 cannot intercept the SR-71 for several reasons: The SR-71 fly too high and too fast; the Mig cannot reach it or catch it. The missiles lack the velocity to overtake the SR-71 and in the event of a head on missile fire (The Golden BB), the Guidance system cannot adjust to the high closure rate of the SR-71.
 
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a little bump.

Pak fa is overhyperd by the indians like..
OMG OMG INDIAN PLANE IDNIAN PLANE OMGOMG
IT HAS 4 RADERS OMG
JESUS OH **** THATS 4 RADARS DUDE OMG..

But what is it really?
I say old russian plane.
low quality.
f35 rules the skies.
and since f22 stopped.
f35.1.
 
a little bump.

Pak fa is overhyperd by the indians like..
OMG OMG INDIAN PLANE IDNIAN PLANE OMGOMG
IT HAS 4 RADERS OMG
JESUS OH **** THATS 4 RADARS DUDE OMG..

But what is it really?
I say old russian plane.
low quality.
f35 rules the skies.
and since f22 stopped.
f35.1.

I say you need to stop talking out of your rear end. And who is over hyping here? It was you that was saying the F-35 is so much better than the F-22. Pak-fa old, what a joke. Low quality? Are you a QC inspector for Sukhoi?
 
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Whenever fully developed Sukhoi Pak-Fa not inducted no one can say about which one is best .. Because on Paper Pak-FA already looking superior that f 22
 
Why no one talks about this plane? Its radars? its other capabilities?
Why this plane is ignored by all military aviation experts?
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Obviously F22.. Since PAK FA is not operational it wont be fair to compare PAK-FA and F22...
 

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