Bengali Hindus in Muslim-majority Bangladesh

[Talwar e Pakistan]

I hope you are not seeking pride in bigotry and vandalism!

The idols in that video are basically statues of nude women; so ofcourse theyre going to get destroyed.

 

[bongbang]

People of better social background tend to be less intolerant towards others, they may keep intolerant views, but seldom go out to riot or harm people physically. In many cases they give tacit support to the lower class people doing the dirty job, or just keep silent while radicals go out on a rampage. That seems to be the case in Bangladesh, and explains the fast and steady decline of the minority population in Bangladesh.

That is not the real case. Reason of Hindu population decline is their conversion to Islam (excluding the factor of East Pakistan). Now if these people like to convert no one can hold them. Those Muslims are actually ex hindu. Those ex Hindu actually try all kinds of oppression to suppress to get the land or wealth. This is same they do against other Muslims. And Hindus also do against Hindus.

Btw, I thought Islam doesn't approve castes and all Muslims are treated equally, then what is that 'higher lineage Muslims' that you are mentioning?

Those are book teachings. Difference exists theoretically and practically. Lineage of Muslims depends on social respect and influence, education, wealth, past history, present condition and outward attire also. Maid and mistress is never equal whatever their caste creed religion.

And would you (or your family) also look down upon any upper caste Hindu converting to Islam and marrying in to your family?

A Hindu should follow his religion and respect others. What is so hard in that. But respect goes down higher to lowest maintaining order based on social position/caste. Now I dont want to be seen as communal. It has seen that to only marry, people from Hindu background set booby trap. And comes with their social baggage and cant follow customs of their new social environment. And it becomes hard for two families to maintain relation as they follow different customs and expect many things. Btw I would like to marry a socially enlightened girl whatever religion wont even bother to convert. But a socially enlightened girl wont come from socially lower level. But my family wont take it good if she comes from other religion.

Further, do you think radical views are rising/spreading among the people of Bangladesh?

Yes its in rise among pot smoker Bangladeshis. And lower caste recent converts. ISIS and Jamat e Islami is a lower caste convert Muslim movement. Both get financially benefited by joining the party.

Lastly, do you think that the minority Hindu Bangladeshis are like sponges, absorbing the discrimination and hatred of the radicals, and also giving Bangladesh a reason to keep some of its secular ideals alive, at least partially? And when they will be gone eventually, the radicals will turn their discrimination and hatred on the non-Sunni minority Muslim sects of Bangladesh, something that is now happening in Pakistan?

Bangladesh and Pakistan arent similar. Minority Hindus are like sponges. Its true as they dont dare to take any hard positions. But its not them that keep the secular ideologies. But leftist socialist liberals intellectuals, bulk of them are Muslims. As I said earlier more people are richer and educated communalism will be abolished.

 

[livingdead]

Protecting life and property of minority communities is the responsibility of any nation state. When they fail in that responsibility, the blame goes to the ruling elite as well as the majority community. Having said that South Asian nations being poor and underdeveloped has been terrible with safeguarding basic and fundamental right of citizens of minority communities, hopefully things will improve as economic conditions improve in all South Asian countries.

Personally I have had Hindu friends and colleagues, both Bengali and non-Bengali South Asian. I had a Hindu Bangladeshi as my room mate during college years in the US. As for Bangladeshi Hindu's, as far as I know, most Bangladeshi Muslims do not look towards or deal with them as alien. They are in fact the original sons of the soil and have relatively minor practical cultural difference except for the religion, as Bangladeshi Muslims have originated mostly from Bengali Hindu's, Buddhists and animists.

But history had not been kind to the relations between the two communities. The 190 year long British period is known for Hindu Zamindar's collaboration with the British and economic oppression of the Muslims in Bengal. This has been the main reason why Bengal Muslims opted for Pakistan to escape that domination and oppression. West Pakistani's again took the role of oppressors during the 24 years of Pakistan period, so Bangladesh was born to achieve freedom from that oppression.

Most of the Hindu Zamindars and money lender families have left for India since 1947. The Hindu's that remain in Bangladesh I believe are mostly from economically backward classes and not the elite British collaborator families. Because they are from the minority community, they are targeted by powerful local people from the majority Muslim community, regardless of party affiliation. A Hindu family's property, mainly land, is a lucrative target as they can be bought at a fraction of the market price if the family is threatened and, as a result, have to leave for India for better security of life and property (Jaan and Mal, as the article in OP mentioned). This indeed is the main economic driver for the migration. Land is scarce commodity in this densely populated country, even rural land has high value. So no party in power can fully solve this problem, unless the economic condition improves, the country develops at a higher pace and law and order situation improves where life and property is secure for all people including those of minorities.

This is probably most accurate and neutral reply.

Compared to India, bd has better minority-majority relation. Its not perfect but I think Indians should be careful in preaching tolerance to bangladeshis.

 

[Riyad]

@Rain Man

Our country our rules. We will kick out every Hindu from Muslim majority Bangladesh. You can give asylum to them in West Bengal.

 

[BDforever]

This is probably most accurate and neutral reply.

Compared to India, bd has better minority-majority relation. Its not perfect but I think Indians should be careful in preaching tolerance to bangladeshis.

To be honest, before i came to PDF and met Indians, i never thought of religious background of a bangladeshi.
for example: we have many hindu celebrities including famous singer like Bappa Mozumder whose i am big fan, when i talked to indians about hindu minorities poor condition in Bangladesh then suddenly realized he is also hindu. As we don't bring religious issue much, so it always stay away when we talk with other bangladeshis.

@Rain Man

Our country our rules. We will kick out every Hindu from Muslim majority Bangladesh. You can give asylum to them in West Bengal.

 

[dray]

The idols in that video are basically statues of nude women; so ofcourse theyre going to get destroyed.

Those idols are unfinished idols of Maa Kali, and a mother is also nude when she gives birth to her child, we don't kill a mother for that. Besides, there are hell lot of material in your religion also that can be targeted, starting from the age and numbers of prophet's wives. So, let's not go there, just try to keep it civil without abusing religions.

@Rain Man

Our country our rules. We will kick out every Hindu from Muslim majority Bangladesh. You can give asylum to them in West Bengal.

Fair enough. I know there are some Bangladeshis who came to this thread but shied away from voting, I also know who are they and where they would have voted, at least you had the courage to speak up. Though I don't agree with your views, but I appreciate your courage.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Those idols are unfinished idols of Maa Kali, and a mother is also nude when she gives birth to her child, we don't kill a mother for that. Besides, there are hell lot of material in your religion also that can be targeted, starting from the age and numbers of prophet's wives. So, let's not go there, just try to keep it civil without abusing religions.



Fair enough. I know there are some Bangladeshis who came to this thread but shied away from voting, I also know who are they and where they would have voted, at least you had the courage to speak up. Though I don't agree with your views, but I appreciate your courage.

There is nothing from our religion that can be targeted. Our Prophet had around 9-10 wives because of the significant male-female ratio(due to disease and war); all of them were widows except one and most of them were older by decades; if you were a widow in medieval Arabia you would've been without any lands or protection - marrying a widow was like adopting an orphan. Also could you give me any sources/proof of one of the Prophet's wife's age? That isnt written 200 years after his death by some random guy?

 

[Riyad]

Those idols are unfinished idols of Maa Kali, and a mother is also nude when she gives birth to her child, we don't kill a mother for that. Besides, there are hell lot of material in your religion also that can be targeted, starting from the age and numbers of prophet's wives. So, let's not go there, just try to keep it civil without abusing religions.



Fair enough. I know there are some Bangladeshis who came to this thread but shied away from voting, I also know who are they and where they would have voted, at least you had the courage to speak up. Though I don't agree with your views, but I appreciate your courage.

I voted for 2nd option.
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Bangladesh was not created for the Hindus, they should convert to Islam or leave Bangladesh.

Please take back Hindus from our country.

 

[Saiful Islam]

If Hindus were discriminated then how come many rich businessmen are Hindu? Why do most Thana police stations have Hindus in top positions.

Fact is, many Hindus are always famously referred to as possessing large amounts of Gold and land.

Bangladesh is a Muslim country with minority religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Christianity. They all live in communal harmony.

Khalasssss

 

[dray]

There is nothing from our religion that can be targeted. Our Prophet had around 9-10 wives because of the significant male-female ratio(due to disease and war); all of them were widows except one and most of them were older by decades; if you were a widow in medieval Arabia you would've been without any lands or protection - marrying a widow was like adopting an orphan. Also could you give me any sources/proof of one of the Prophet's wife's age? That isnt written 200 years after his death by some random guy?

Not interested. Stay on the topic if you have anything of value to add here.

Please take back Hindus from our country.

We are already taking them for decades brother, thousands of them come and settle in the localities of my 'deser bari' every year, in fact many of the Bengali members from West Bengal here, including myself have their origin in 'opar bangla'.

If Hindus were discriminated then how come many rich businessmen are Hindu? Why do most Thana police stations have Hindus in top positions.

Fact is, many Hindus are always famously referred to as possessing large amounts of Gold and land.

Bangladesh is a Muslim country with minority religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Christianity. They all live in communal harmony.

Khalasssss

It's the poor who get the raw deal everywhere.

 

[Riyad]

Not interested. Stay on the topic if you have anything of value to add here.



We are already taking them for decades brother, thousands of them come and settle in the localities of my 'deser bari' every year, in fact many of the Bengali members from West Bengal here, including myself have their origin in 'opar bangla'.

Not interested. Stay on the topic if you have anything of value to add here.



We are already taking them for decades brother, thousands of them come and settle in the localities of my 'deser bari' every year, in fact many of the Bengali members from West Bengal here, including myself have their origin in 'opar bangla'.



It's the poor who get the raw deal everywhere.

So you are from Bangladesh land. Which district are you from?

 

[dray]

So you are from Bangladesh land. Which district are you from?

My origin is in undivided Bengal, my father's family was originally from 'Itna' in Dhaka division, but my grandfather later bought a large chunk of land in Barisal and settled there. My mother's family was from Khulna.......all before the partition, now nothing is left there apart from some names of the places, some memories of 'bhite mati' for the older people, and some stories for us. And yes, some dead bodies, some shattered dreams, and at least two generations of struggle to regain the lost 'life' and status. Most of the displaced Bengalis have now fought back to regain their lives, and the link to the lost home is fading away, memories are dying..stories are not getting passed on to the new generations, the partition is almost complete now....all in the name of religions......which are supposed to bring peace and unity in the world.

 

[Riyad]

My origin is in undivided Bengal, my father's family was originally from 'Itna' in Dhaka division, but my grandfather later bought a large chunk of land in Barisal and settled there. My mother's family was from Khulna.......all before the partition, now nothing is left there apart from some names of the places, some memories of 'bhite mati' for the older people, and some stories for us. And yes, some dead bodies, some shattered dreams, and at least two generations of struggle to regain the lost 'life' and status. Most of the displaced Bengalis have now fought back to regain their lives, and the link to the lost home is fading away, memories are dying..stories are not getting passed on to the new generations, the partition is almost complete now....all in the name of religions......which are supposed to bring peace and unity in the world.

So you are Dhakaiya and Barisailya both. OMG! you are so connected with Bangladesh. Dhaka, Barisal and Khulna are integral parts of Bangladesh. Why did your grandparents move to West Bengal? Technically you are illegal Bangladeshi migrant settled in Kolkata.

 

[dray]

So you are Dhakaiya and Barisailya both. OMG! you are so connected with Bangladesh. Dhaka, Barisal and Khulna are integral parts of Bangladesh. Why did your grandparents move to West Bengal? Technically you are illegal Bangladeshi migrant settled in Kolkata.

They didn't move on their own will. And when we crossed over, all the regions were India, so we didn't cross any border. Besides, whoever has crossed over to India till 1971 or 1973 (not sure) are Indian citizens by law, but people get citizenship even after that timeline. Many Bengalis in this forum have a Bangladesh connection.

 

[Stannis Baratheon]

Some Bangladeshis are not voting, maybe too shy to express there views!!

Maybe they don't want to encourage your cr@p.

We are already taking in all the displaced people of Bangladesh since its East Pakistan days! Besides, it is a bogus idea to discriminate or displace people on the basis of their political leaning! That's not the real issue in Bangladesh. The article explains the issues quite well.

Well, the persecution due to political siding has been common in Bangladesh since 1971. That's why the Biharis are treated as animals in a zoo.