Bengali Calendar was introduced by Emperor Akbar to ease tax collection

[Ayush]

@kalu_miah ,this is some very good info. It was Akbar that ruined islamic empire in India with his heretic din-e-elahi BS. He was a typical munafiq and no wonder the only mugal ruler liked by Indians. He is very much idolized in Indian text books.

just how aurangzeb is idolised in bd and pak for obvious reasons??

 

[notsuperstitious]

Its both!! Where on earth did Baisakh/Boishakh come from? From a Mongol Calendar?
Though the "Mongol Prodip" or lamps that are lit in Bangladeshi homes that our BDians here are talking about may have come from the Mongols.

That was almost as funy as the desperate identity crisis mental gymnastics of these timurids!!!

 

[Android]

I dont know why you guys are bashing din e lahi I have done some research on it in internet i find it was quite amazing idealogy it combined several good principles of all religions and simultaneously flushed out major negative characteristics of all those religions
sad that it didn't worked out

 

[apolitical]

Its both!! Where on earth did Baisakh/Boishakh come from? From a Mongol Calendar?
Though the "Mongol Prodip" or lamps that are lit in Bangladeshi homes that our BDians here are talking about may have come from the Mongols.

Do get the context of this thread.

the guy who started the thread is trying to convince his fellow rabid Islamist buddies that it is OK to celebrate this festival because apparently its halal for Muslims. He is merely telling the Islamists to not go rioting by trying to make the festival sound Muslim. Or you never know how many innocent minority non-Muslims these mini-Talibans might go killing tomorrow because they dont like Hindu festivals being celebrated.

You never know with these Bangladeshi Talibans, they went and started rioting and killing Hindus because of some anti-Muslims blogs, one can only imagine what hell they have to go through if they start celebrating non-Muslim festivals too...

 

[Luffy 500]

just how aurangzeb is idolised in bd and pak for obvious reasons??

Aurangzeb was a great scholar and a warrior IMO. One of the greatest mugal rulers. Btw muslims never idolise another human being or any other creations of Allah (swt). We only worship Allah (swt). What's your point?

 

[MilSpec]

BS thread.... Forget Akbar, Bengali calender starts almost before birth of islam... now if bangladeshis want to put mughal origins to a culture that is twice as old as religion followed the mughals, its thier choice.... next is what diwali by aurangazeb and holi by ghaasi??

Aurangzeb was a great scholar and a warrior IMO. One of the greatest mugal rulers. What your point?

Sure he was... !!! so were all other favourates like abdali, ghouri, ghazni etc right?? every king who butchered and pillaged Hindus is great for bangladeshis!

 

[Capt.Popeye]

just how aurangzeb is idolised in bd and pak for obvious reasons??

That is a point! Nobody has yet named a Bomb or Missile or a Warship after Akbar!!
Poor forgotten guy.

 

[Ayush]

Aurangzeb was a great scholar and a warrior IMO. One of the greatest mugal rulers. What your point?

nothing,u made it clearer...anyways,we both are entitled to our own opinions...

 

[apolitical]

Aurangzeb was a great scholar and a warrior IMO. One of the greatest mugal rulers. Btw muslims never idolise another human being, a mere mortal. We only worship Allah (swt). What's your point?

Not really. Lost one of the biggest empires by being defeated in battle by a bunch of farmers he pi$$ed off, who took up weapons in retaliation. Hardly sounds like a great scholar or warrior.

 

[Ayush]

That is a point! Nobody has yet named a Bomb or Missile or a Warship after Akbar!!
Poor forgotten guy.

yup,he is remembered as a great king only in india's books...perhaps due to similar ideologies..-tolerance for every religion...

 

[apolitical]

Sure he was... !!! so were all other favourates like abdali, ghouri, ghazni etc right?? every king who butchered and pillaged Hindus is great for bangladeshis!

I dont know whether to laugh at these Muslims in Bd/Pak or feel bad for them. It was their ancestors that happened to be Hindu and were killed by these very same people they now idolize. Because clearly it couldnt have been my (or most of current India's) ancestors that were forcefully converted by Aurangzeb, since we are still Hindus.

 

[Android]

I agree Awami League is trying to sell it as Hindu culture and mixing this Bengali calendar and Poela Baishakh with Hindu culture. That is part of their over plan to Hindu-ize our culture. So we have to counter it with proper Muslim cultural practices of our own. Pointing out and remembering that this festival was introduced by a Mughal Muslim ruler and being proud of it can be a start. This shows a legacy and continuity of the Muslim rule of South Asia from 1000 years back and Muslim rule of Bengal from 800 years back.

err... dude Bengali calendar is a part of Hindu (Vedic) calendar like many other regional calendar of subcontinent similar to it with slight variation among them and was previously used by all Hindu/Buddhist kingdoms in south Asia before being replaced with hijra calendar by Delhi sultanate only to be brought again by a non Muslim mughal emperor

Aurangzeb was a great scholar and a warrior IMO. One of the greatest mugal rulers. Btw muslims never idolise another human being, a mere mortal. We only worship Allah (swt). What's your point?

how his stupidity was primary reason behind the sudden decline of mughal empire after his death

 

[apolitical]

We should not compare din-e-elahi with the Poela Baisakh. Din-e-elahi failed as it was opposed by Akbar's subordinates and was never accepted by any Muslim. But Bengali calendar was a success, because it was practical.

I agree Awami League is trying to sell it as Hindu culture and mixing this Bengali calendar and Poela Baishakh with Hindu culture. That is part of their over plan to Hindu-ize our culture. So we have to counter it with proper Muslim cultural practices of our own. Pointing out and remembering that this festival was introduced by a Mughal Muslim ruler and being proud of it can be a start. This shows a legacy and continuity of the Muslim rule of South Asia from 1000 years back and Muslim rule of Bengal from 800 years back.

While that was a nice little fantasy tale, you need to get more information in terms of what you talk about. All Indian subcultures like Bengali, Punjabi, Bihari, Tamil, Karnataka, Andhra, Kashmiri, Gujrati, Kerala, Sindhi, Marathi etc follow the Vedic Hindu calendar with slight variations in dates. All the various subcultures of India celebrate their new years within a small time window close to one another (3 to 4 days).

Now that your Bengali calendar has been proven to be a haram hindu festival (no halal ), dont go rioting with your jamaati buddies and and kill Hindus in BD for this. Its not their fault, its something we hindus have been doing for the past couple of millennium, and unfortunately for us and you (but really more-so for us), its now been descended to you pious muslims too

Many 'New Years' over next three days - Times Of India

Celebrated in Maharashtra as GudiPadwa, the Hindu new year is observed in almost every other state with a different name. The dates, however, coincide. Up to April 15, various communities in the city would be observing rituals to mark their new year.

On the same day as Gudi Padwa is Ugadi, for those who hail from Andhra and Karnataka. "I look forward to this day since among us it is a must to buy new clothes for girls," says Harini Kota, a third-year student of architecture. Decorating the house with a floral toran and making rangoli made with rice powder is a must in every Andhra home. "We prepare sweet and sour chutney by mixing jaggery syrup, fresh neem leaves, raw mango and tamarind juice. This is given to every member of the family," she says.


On April 14 is Puthandu and Vishu, which are Tamil and Malayalam new year respectively. "The day is marked by bringing into the house fresh fruits, vegetables and coconut, and decorating the house with scented flowers," says musician Geetha Sharma. "Two special pachidis are prepared this day. The sacred one is made by mixing burned neem leaves with jaggery and raw mango. The other is had with the meal, and is a dahi pachadi made by mixing cucumber with curd." The rituals also include worshipping of the Tamil Panchang along with the deities.

"In Kerala, we celebrate Vishu with the boom of crackers," says dance teacher Ratnam Janardan. "But the highlight in every Malayalam home is the flower bedecked altar, where a photo or idol of Krishna is kept. We place a tray loaded with yellow flowers, coins and fruits, and see it first thing in the morning. What delights the younger family members is that they get money from elders on this day," says Janardan.

Geographically they may be the two ends of India, but Navreh or Kashmiri new year celebrations are very similar to those of the Malayalees. "In a plate, we place rice, flowers, coin, dahi, roti, a photo or idol of a deity, and a pen and cover it with a cloth. The next day in the morning we see this plate first and also write a chant with the pen," says city businessman Avinash Kachroo. As the day marks the beginning of Navratra, Kashmiris observe nine-day fast starting this day.

Observed as a day to worship Jhulelal, the water god, Cheti Chand or the Sindhi new year falls on April 12 this year. "Many traders in Mahal area take out a scooter rally around the Gandhisagar lake," says Chandra Butwani of Satyam Hotel, Jaripatka. "We perform arti of our Lord Jhulelal at the temple." The day is not about feasting, but distribution of food to the needy, says Butwani.

For the aesthetically oriented Bengalis, Pohela Boishakh is a day marked with dance and music. "This day is important for the business class, as they begin their new account books after performing puja of Laxmi and Ganesh," says Pratishtha Sarkar, an insurance trainer. The homes are decorated with flowers and alpana, the rice powder rangoli made in Bengal.

Also celebrating Baisakhi on April 14{+ }is the Punjabi community in the city. "It is not the new year, but a harvest festival," says city businessman Harmeet Singh. Baisakhi is celebrated by offering prayers in the gurdwara followed by the community feast, langar. "The cultural events on this day are held by community clubs and association," adds Singh.

 

[liontk]

Calendars have religions, am I missing something?, monsieurs in PDF are going wierd day by day no offense intended specifically for any members!

Happy new years btw

 

[kalu_miah]

For Bangladeshi's, as always ignore usual defecation posts from Indians, unless they have something valuable to add to the discussion that is worth discussing.