Bell Boeing to brief India on V-22 Osprey

[Humanist]

how many soldiers it can carry?

 

[SpArK]

how many soldiers it can carry?

24 troops (seated), 32 troops (floor loaded)

 

[angeldemon_007]

why don't we go for it in large numbrs?it will hlp us in logistic movments!imagine this babe carrying stuffs in those areas without advanced landing grounds

Because its expensive...

24 troops (seated), 32 troops (floor loaded)

But it could be very useful in Special Ops. Unless India has woken up and decided to join Mil or Kamov for their new gen helicopters like Mi-X1 or Ka90 or Ka92, i think we should purchase V22.

 

[punisher]

Enjoy

Awesome pics. ....

 

[Tangent]

IMO, P8I would be a better platform for AEW and there will be other better alternate for troop transport.
By Combining functions we can end up with a situation that of a swiff knife, which can do all functions , but none of the functions properly. Jack of all Master of none.
Let there be a dedicated things of different operations.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I think the V-22 has a great chance for use in IN in some pretty significant numbers. It seems ideal in filling multiple IN current and future requirements. The STOBAR based AEWs for which V-22 can be used for IAC-1 and Vikramditya (depending on configuration of IAC-2/3 also).

also the recent IN RFI for a helo for IN's SOAR which must have a2a refueling the V-22 seems to be likely to fill this role. Not to mention utility roles for the Indian Marine Corps that is being set up and for use on the soon to be acquired LPD/LHD. V-22 numbers (AEW and utility) could be 30-45 units atleast.



It seems IN is going for one huge US spending spree, P-8I (24 are confirmed), S-70/MH-60R, V-22, FireScout and MQ-4 UAV (both very likely to be ordered soon) + E-2D for future IN CATOBAR carriers.

 

[sweetgrape]

Again, What rich are indian!!!
V-22 is owesome, You can buy them, does indian spare some money to use them?!!!

 

[Chrome Missiles]

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

Again, What rich are indian!!!
V-22 is owesome, You can buy them, does indian spare some money to use them?!!!

 

[Lyrical Mockery]

How many of these are in service with USMC?

 

[Ajaxpaul]

Again, What rich are indian!!!
V-22 is owesome, You can buy them, does indian spare some money to use them?!!!

Ohhh thats so cute...You are more like sour grapes

 

[deepakclaw]

There is nothing special to it ,, even mi 26 AND CHINOOK has similar specifications.... and EXEPT its speed is around 450 kmph .. WHAT DIFFERENCE IT HAS WITH HELICOPTERS)............. just an expensive toy thats all to it.

COMPARISON:
V 22 OSPREY: (100 MILL APROX)
Crew: Four (pilot, copilot and two flight engineers)Capacity:

24 troops (seated), 32 troops (floor loaded), or
20,000 lb (9,070 kg) of internal cargo, or up to 15,000 lb (6,800 kg) of external cargo (dual hook)

Empty weight: 33,140 lb (15,032 kg)
Loaded weight: 47,500 lb (21,500 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 60,500 lb (27,400 kg)
Maximum speed: 250 knots (463 km/h, 288 mph) at sea level / 305 kn (565 km/h; 351 mph) at 15,000 ft (4,600 m)[148]
Cruise speed: 241 knots (277 mph, 446 km/h) at sea level
Range: 879 nmi (1,011 mi, 1,627 km)
Combat radius: 390 nmi (426 mi, 722 km)
Ferry range: 1,940 nmi (2,230 mi, 3,590 km) with auxiliary internal fuel tanks
Service ceiling: 25,000 ft (7,620 m)
Rate of climb: 2,320 ft/min (11.8 m/s)

Mi-26 (18 MILL APROX)
Crew: Five– 2 pilots, 1 navigator, 1 flight engineer, 1 flight technician
Capacity:

90 troops or 60 stretchers
20,000 kg cargo (44,090 lb)

Empty weight: 28,200 kg (62,170 lb)
Loaded weight: 49,600 kg (109,350 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 56,000 kg (123,450 lb)

Maximum speed: 295 km/h (159 kt, 183 mph)
Cruise speed: 255 km/h (137 kt, 158 mph)
Range: 1,920 km (1,036 nmi, 1,190 mi) (with auxiliary tanks)
Service ceiling: 4,600 m (15,100 ft)

CHINOOK35 MILL APROX)
Crew: 3 (pilot, copilot, flight engineer)
Capacity:

33–55 troops or
24 litters and 3 attendants or
28,000 lb (12,700 kg) cargo

Empty weight: 23,400 lb (10,185 kg)
Loaded weight: 26,680 lb (12,100 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (22,680 kg)
Maximum speed: 170 knots (196 mph, 315 km/h)
Cruise speed: 130 kt (137 mph, 220 km/h)
Range: 400 nmi (450 mi, 741 km)
Ferry range: 1,216 nmi (1,400 mi, 2,252 km[89])
Service ceiling: 18,500 ft (5,640 m)
Rate of climb: 1,522 ft/min (10.1 m/s)

 

[tvsram1992]

There is nothing special to it ,, even mi 26 AND CHINOOK has similar specifications.... and EXEPT its speed is around 450 kmph .. WHAT DIFFERENCE IT HAS WITH HELICOPTERS)............. just an expensive toy thats all to it.

COMPARISON:
V 22 OSPREY: (100 MILL APROX)
Crew: Four (pilot, copilot and two flight engineers)Capacity:

24 troops (seated), 32 troops (floor loaded), or
20,000 lb (9,070 kg) of internal cargo, or up to 15,000 lb (6,800 kg) of external cargo (dual hook)

Empty weight: 33,140 lb (15,032 kg)
Loaded weight: 47,500 lb (21,500 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 60,500 lb (27,400 kg)
Maximum speed: 250 knots (463 km/h, 288 mph) at sea level / 305 kn (565 km/h; 351 mph) at 15,000 ft (4,600 m)[148]
Cruise speed: 241 knots (277 mph, 446 km/h) at sea level
Range: 879 nmi (1,011 mi, 1,627 km)
Combat radius: 390 nmi (426 mi, 722 km)
Ferry range: 1,940 nmi (2,230 mi, 3,590 km) with auxiliary internal fuel tanks
Service ceiling: 25,000 ft (7,620 m)
Rate of climb: 2,320 ft/min (11.8 m/s)

Mi-26 (18 MILL APROX)
Crew: Five– 2 pilots, 1 navigator, 1 flight engineer, 1 flight technician
Capacity:

90 troops or 60 stretchers
20,000 kg cargo (44,090 lb)

Empty weight: 28,200 kg (62,170 lb)
Loaded weight: 49,600 kg (109,350 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 56,000 kg (123,450 lb)

Maximum speed: 295 km/h (159 kt, 183 mph)
Cruise speed: 255 km/h (137 kt, 158 mph)
Range: 1,920 km (1,036 nmi, 1,190 mi) (with auxiliary tanks)
Service ceiling: 4,600 m (15,100 ft)

CHINOOK35 MILL APROX)
Crew: 3 (pilot, copilot, flight engineer)
Capacity:

33–55 troops or
24 litters and 3 attendants or
28,000 lb (12,700 kg) cargo

Empty weight: 23,400 lb (10,185 kg)
Loaded weight: 26,680 lb (12,100 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (22,680 kg)
Maximum speed: 170 knots (196 mph, 315 km/h)
Cruise speed: 130 kt (137 mph, 220 km/h)
Range: 400 nmi (450 mi, 741 km)
Ferry range: 1,216 nmi (1,400 mi, 2,252 km[89])
Service ceiling: 18,500 ft (5,640 m)
Rate of climb: 1,522 ft/min (10.1 m/s)

Speed is very much important in some cases, so few V22 would do the job . So we are not going for large numbers .

 

[Capt.Popeye]

An AEW would be a costly modification to undertake.
Moreover.. the osprey's "repute" is not all rosy.
Its speed advantage does not apply too much to India's requirements.

for an AEW, whether STOBAR or CATOBAR.. a Helicopter based AEW platform such as one based on the Sea-king or Merlin makes better sense.

As I see it, its just a request for a briefing. And I'm willing to speculate that it may not progress too far beyond that. The likely scenario is that MoD and IN are exploring all options before carrying out the design freeze on IAC 2 and IAC 3. And its no coincidence that the officer (to be briefed etc) mentioned in the news item; V/Adm. Satish Soni is an aviator.

 

[SQ8]

As I see it, its just a request for a briefing. And I'm willing to speculate that it may not progress too far beyond that. The likely scenario is that MoD and IN are exploring all options before carrying out the design freeze on IAC 2 and IAC 3. And its no coincidence that the officer (to be briefed etc) mentioned in the news item; V/Adm. Satish Soni is an aviator.

On a slightly related note..
There should be Indian startup's on air taxi companies and other corporate charter businesses that should look into the BA-609.
Much more relevant to the Indian market. The Ba-609 also has a proposed Gunship version which might interest the IA and IAF more.