Beijing May Become 'Unfortunate Bystander' To India's Success, Warns Chinese Think Tank

[SorryNotSorry]

once again- Indian propaganda

GlobalTimes (where the original piece was posted) is actually the CCP mouthpiece and a part of Chinese propaganda machinery. EPIC FAIL

 

[kingfeiq]

No, the Chinese don't see India as a threat, the CCP does.

The Chinese simply believe in the illusion that China belongs to them, but in fact belongs to the CCP.

Indians see the CCP as a threat to India. But at the same time Indians see Chinese as clueless gerbils who can't even own their own land.

What did CCP to do you guys?
I only know ordinary peoples in china are more richer,safer,happier.
what has democracy brought you?confusion,inefficiency, the poor,mind blocking,voluntary crime etc. we did rather not have these freedoms.

We are already the third largest economy of the world.

China is the second largest ecomony of the world,so we are developing infrastructure to serve the people. and look round you,what is happen in india when it has became the third largest economy?dont be superstitious about PPP.

China No 1, US no 2 and India No 3.

Nonono...
china isnt No1,india isnt No3.
because of the large population,the standard of living in China is lower then in US.
india too,relative to china

 

[desiHindu]

And what does that achieve? With poor socio-economic indices still prevalent, a burgeoning population inspite and despite the threat of job reduction as increased automation is undertaken to enhance productivity, cost effectiveness and increase efficiency of supply chain operations and production?

The large 'youth' base will translate into a large geriatric population, which shall convert into further decrease in the number of jobs being generated as increase skill upgradation and multiple specialties is the mantra and people have experience to add to it. A vicious cycle, no?

So, in effect what you are saying is, we should just sit tight, not grow our economy & wait for rapture?
And your statement of "what does that achieve" is putting it mildly, moronic.

We got a huge population - true. Our social indices are poor - true.
In all your infinite wisdom, do let us know how we can provide jobs and improve social indices without increasing our economy.

 

[Hellfire]

So, in effect what you are saying is, we should just sit tight, not grow our economy & wait for rapture?

Problem processing what has been written with your grey cells? And were you quoted?

And your statement of "what does that achieve" is putting it mildly, moronic.

True, your post indeed meets the bold portion. Because your ability to perceive and process the post has been retarded by lack of effectiveness of limbic system perhaps? Keep it civil, you will be treated civilly, go along a path of 'un-civil' behaviour, you will be short lived. Although I have a feeling you are a serially 'short life' character here

We got a huge population - true. Our social indices are poor - true.

So, does a great economy off set the points I have quoted? Did you read my quotation of the said member in the context of the posts preceding the member's, and to which the member has posted or were you too daft to understand the context being put up? Do expand on this aspect please.

In all your infinite wisdom, do let us know how we can provide jobs and improve social indices without increasing our economy.

In my infinite wisdom, until and unless a comprehensive policy to control the humungous population growth rate is immediately implemented, we are going to squander our 'economic gains'. Do you want elaboration of the reasons? Or is your mental faculty able to appreciate the ramifications of Indian moves into integration with world economies thereby to 'reduce' costs of development of technology, open new markets and source raw materials with need to maintain competitiveness, improve quality assurance of products and maintain schedule bound delivery/reception?

Is your ability to analyse so handicapped that you can not appreciate the fact that increased automation will reduce the ability to generate new points of employment and will constrict job market as opposed to create more? Add to this, the future will have a very large geriatric population, with life expectancy crossing into 68 years in India, and retirement age now increased to 62 years in Government and 65 years in civil, what is the probability of these jobs being 'available' to younger generations which continue increasing at a phenomenonal rate as compared to job creation?

Here read

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...formers-to-cut-costs/articleshow/58637329.cms

Just the beginning of things

 

[desiHindu]

Problem processing what has been written with your grey cells? And were you quoted?

Touché brother.

True, your post indeed meets the bold portion. Because your ability to perceive and process the post has been retarded by lack of effectiveness of limbic system perhaps? Keep it civil, you will be treated civilly, go along a path of 'un-civil' behaviour, you will be short lived. Although I have a feeling you are a serially 'short life' character here

Naa, I will pass on civility now and then. I won't abuse but being overly civil is, let's say, boring. As far as 'short life' here, it may be 'life' for you but not for me.

So, does a great economy off set the points I have quoted? Did you read my quotation of the said member in the context of the posts preceding the member's, and to which the member has posted or were you too daft to understand the context being put up? Do expand on this aspect please.

Out of context excuse is over used. I quoted 2 paragraphs of yours, not a single sentence. Perhaps you should take your own advise on the usage of grey cells.

In my infinite wisdom, until and unless a comprehensive policy to control the humungous population growth rate is immediately implemented, we are going to squander our 'economic gains'. Do you want elaboration of the reasons? Or is your mental faculty able to appreciate the ramifications of Indian moves into integration with world economies thereby to 'reduce' costs of development of technology, open new markets and source raw materials with need to maintain competitiveness, improve quality assurance of products and maintain schedule bound delivery/reception?

Is your ability to analyse so handicapped that you can not appreciate the fact that increased automation will reduce the ability to generate new points of employment and will constrict job market as opposed to create more? Add to this, the future will have a very large geriatric population, with life expectancy crossing into 68 years in India, and retirement age now increased to 62 years in Government and 65 years in civil, what is the probability of these jobs being 'available' to younger generations which continue increasing at a phenomenonal rate as compared to job creation?

Here read

Comprehensive policy to control humongous population in India? I am sorry, are you from the same world as earth? You seriously want BJP to come up with a measure to control population. This party is getting battered by the so called "seculars" and "feminists" and "liberal media" when they are opposing Triple talaq and polygamy. Oh yeah, I can clearly see the reactions "the gang" will have if they even uttered the word population control.
FYI, they are trying to do that indirectly. Check out what's happening in Assam.
Oh, I don't disagree with rest of your post, except the one point of looking down at economic prosperity because we have other problems.
There is no magic pill to solve our problems in one go. It's not a competition of whether we improve our economy or improve social indices or build technology or numerous other things you have pointed at. Putting it bluntly, without improving our economy, rest of things you talk would not even be feasible.
Hence my post pointing at the fallacy of your argument of downplaying economic improvement, pointing at things which can only be addressed by improving your economy. You have some magic pill that can provide quality universal health care for all India without humongous economy?

I get your point about population. Let me know your plans of how the current disposition should address it without being hounded by "Indian intellectuals" and "seculars".

 

[Soumitra]

Is your ability to analyse so handicapped that you can not appreciate the fact that increased automation will reduce the ability to generate new points of employment and will constrict job market as opposed to create more?

This is what was said when computers were introduced. Because of computers two whole new industries - IT and e Commerce have come into existence and they are giving jobs to millions of people

Increased automation will require better skill sets. If the people continue to sit on their bums and do nothing then obviously they wont get jobs.

I know for a fact that govt is trying to help people build their skills but the people are not willing to do it. This is the mentality which led to rise of AAP in Delhi. We dont want to do anything but want everything for free.

I can give you an example from my own experience. I was working for a company which had tied up with NSDC (National Skill Development Council). We approached many colleges to get their students enrolled in 3 month skill devlopment courses. These courses were free of cost (the govt would refund the fees once the student completes the course and gets the certificate). But no students were interested in these courses. They preferred to sit on their bums twiddling their thumbs instead of joining courses which will give them better jobs

 

[desiHindu]

This is what was said when computers were introduced. Because of computers two whole new industries - IT and e Commerce have come into existence and they are giving jobs to millions of people

This logic is as old as the invention of wheel, which probably results in millions of job losses at that time as well

People assume automation is cheap and there is some magical switch which the companies can switch on and the products will get manufactured get delivered to the customer. If only it were that simple.

Automation will result in millions of 'existing' job losses - True
What is also true is that Automation will ensure tens of millions of 'new' jobs that will be needed to ensure Automation is achieved.

I remember when I used to physically write letters and post them. I have not done that in couple of decades now. What happened to all those jobs that were lost because of invention of e-mail, interactive forms etc etc? Well, all those guys who lost those old jobs to e-mail, moved to create the support structure to enable the new technology.
This logic has been true for millennia and will be true for the next millennia as well.

Those who are lazy and inept have always ended up in gutter. this is true for now, past and will hold true for future as well.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

For now India has became bystander in China mega one road one belt success. So for indians, this topic is like a little feel good factor after watching entire region endorsing China's success.

 

[desiHindu]

For now India has became bystander in China mega one road one belt success. So for indians, this topic is like a little feel good factor after watching entire region endorsing China's success.

Why would we want a road from China to us which can result in them dumping more useless stuff in India?

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Why would we want a road from China to us which can result in them dumping more useless stuff in India?

Everything in your house hold is already China made so yeah you can term more investment as useless since you cannot be at par with China which your govt portrays. Also US needs a bunny in to counter China's influence in the region so hence the term useless.

 

[desiHindu]

Everything in your house hold is already China made so yeah you can term more investment as useless since you cannot be at par with China which your govt portrays. Also US needs a bunny in to counter China's influence in the region so hence the term useless

May be in your house hold but not in Mine, either in India or here.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

P.S even US is sending their delegation in OBOR as an endrosment of dragon's growing influence and economic power while India has remain out - a classic text book isolation.

Urdu mein is topic ko keh tey hain: Haan angoor kethey hain.

 

[desiHindu]

P.S even US is sending their delegation in OBOR as an endrosment of dragon's growing influence and economic power while India has remain out - a classic text book isolation.

Urdu mein is topic ko keh tey hain: Haan angoor kethey hain.

Perhaps you don't know what isolation means.
Isolation means China & others not wanting India in OBOR. India showing the middle finger is a completely different statement my friend

 

[Soumitra]

This logic is as old as the invention of wheel, which probably results in millions of job losses at that time as well

People assume automation is cheap and there is some magical switch which the companies can switch on and the products will get manufactured get delivered to the customer. If only it were that simple.

Automation will result in millions of 'existing' job losses - True
What is also true is that Automation will ensure tens of millions of 'new' jobs that will be needed to ensure Automation is achieved.

I remember when I used to physically write letters and post them. I have not done that in couple of decades now. What happened to all those jobs that were lost because of invention of e-mail, interactive forms etc etc? Well, all those guys who lost those old jobs to e-mail, moved to create the support structure to enable the new technology.
This logic has been true for millennia and will be true for the next millennia as well.

Those who are lazy and inept have always ended up in gutter. this is true for now, past and will hold true for future as well.

The use of robots in factories will result in job losses in the shop floor. But new jobs like manufature and servicing of robots and controlling and programming robots will be created. The people need to upgrade their skill sets

And if people dont upgrade their skill sets this is what will happen

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

GlobalTimes (where the original piece was posted) is actually the CCP mouthpiece and a part of Chinese propaganda machinery. EPIC FAIL

point where it states 'globaltimes'? This Indian website only claims a 'chinese think-tank' said so

'China fears us'
'China hates us'
'China thinks we are a a worthy rival'

Indian propaganda meant for self-masturbation

Keep lying.