'Beijing-Dhaka ties will be substantially damaged if Bangladesh joins Quad'

[F-6 enthusiast]

And Daddy Uncle Sam will give us free lunches ?

HECK NO both China and America wants to use BD nothing much more

BD needs to think independently and not rely on anyone and try to become industrialized and self sufficient

BD foreign policy should be similar to Yugoslavia in the cold war period. Non -aligned. They were a 'socialist nation' allied with both the USSR and the western powers. Extracting economic benefits from both.

 

[Indos]

no free lunches from CHina Bangladesh! thats China's message..

Yup, this is what I think as well, I give you some thing, you must give me what I want as well.

Bangladesh to Quad is totally unrelevant, it is more on TOT on defense equipment that BD ask, China is already rich, it doesnt need money, but China wants to grow its influence with technology diplomacy. This is also why North Korea can have good missile capability and also maybe other nation.

In the past, Indonesia will likely become nuclear power in 1970's if Soekarno still in power, many of nuclear scientist went to Russia at that time, some thing that is foolish is that Soeharto instead of hiring them, he just put them all in prison

 

[SpaceMan18]

Yup, this is what I think as well, I give you some thing, you must give me what I want as well.

Bangladesh to Quad is totally unrelevant, it is more on TOT on defense equipment that BD ask, China is already rich, it doesnt need money, but China wants to grow its influence with technology diplomacy. This is also why North Korea can have good missile capability and also maybe other nation.

In the past, Indonesia will likely become nuclear power in 1970's if Soekarno still in power, many of nuclear scientist went to Russia at that time, some thing that is foolish is that Soeharto instead of hiring them, he just put them all in prison

Indonesia a Nuclear power ?

America would be pissed my man , America would sanction the heck out of Indonesia. Taiwan wanted it's own nuclear program but America said NO

 

[Indos]

Indonesia a Nuclear power ?

America would be pissed my man , America would sanction the heck out of Indonesia. Taiwan wanted it's own nuclear program but America said NO

I talked the story what happened during Soekarno regime that is close to Communist, we have third biggest Communist party after CCP and USSR.

Indonesia has already had nuclear reactor in early 1960 and sent many nuclear scientist to USSR, and also launch rocket which is the second country after Japan in Asia that has launched rocket.

Actually CIA report has shown Soekarno want to develop nuclear weapon.

Sanction ???? We attacked Malaysia and Singapore in 1960-1966 and has war with British, Australia, New Zealand, and Malaysia in Borneo and frequently bomb Singapore. We have already become bad boy at that time

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Yup, this is what I think as well, I give you some thing, you must give me what I want as well.

Bangladesh to Quad is totally unrelevant, it is more on TOT on defense equipment that BD ask, China is already rich, it doesnt need money, but China wants to grow its influence with technology diplomacy. This is also why North Korea can have good missile capability and also maybe other nation.

In the past, Indonesia will likely become nuclear power in 1970's if Soekarno still in power, many of nuclear scientist went to Russia at that time, some thing that is foolish is that Soeharto instead of hiring them, he just put them all in prison

USSR did not give nuclear technology to even its soviet states like kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Belarus. USSR did not give nuclear technology to Iraq, Iran either. Why will USSR give nuclear technology to Indonesia? Indonesia had to develop its own technology instead of hoping that someone else will gift it. A country readily gives technology only when it finds that the buyer has an alternative to develop its on own feet

 

[IceCold]

All you lot will ever see in BD is an Indian lackey

Why would we see anything beyond what Hasina has turned BD into? Its your actions that speak louder than words and BD's action under Hasina have been nothing short of being a lackey.

 

[Indos]

USSR did not give nuclear technology to even its soviet states like kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Belarus. USSR did not give nuclear technology to Iraq, Iran either. Why will USSR give nuclear technology to Indonesia? Indonesia had to develop its own technology instead of hoping that someone else will gift it. A country readily gives technology only when it finds that the buyer has an alternative to develop its on own feet

The fact that many of our nuclear scientist in Rusia and USSR has made nuclear reactor for Indonesia. What we need is to have many nuclear scientist where they study in USSR and of course we will learn to develop it by ourselves.

 

[SpaceMan18]

I talked the story what happened during Soekarno regime that is close to Communist, we have third biggest Communist party after CCP and USSR.

Indonesia has already had nuclear reactor in early 1960 and sent many nuclear scientist to USSR, and also launch rocket which is the second country after Japan in Asia that has launched rocket.

Actually CIA report has shown Soekarno want to develop nuclear weapon.

Sanction ???? We attacked Malaysia and Singapore in 1960-1966 and has war with British, Australia, New Zealand, and Malaysia in Borneo and frequently bomb Singapore. We have already become bad boy at that time

Hmm that sounds interesting , I guess Indonesia almost became a superpower lol kinda wished it did

The fact that many of our nuclear scientist in Rusia and USSR has made nuclear reactor for Indonesia. What we need is to have many nuclear scientist where they study in USSR and of course we will learn to develop it by ourselves.

I wonder if Indonesia can become a space power also , I mean why not I guess

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Why would we see anything beyond what Hasina has turned BD into? Its your actions that speak louder than words and BD's action under Hasina have been nothing short of being a lackey.

We can list the not so lackey like actions of Pakistan just as easily but your snowflakey user base on here will get so hurt they'll ban under any drummed up pretext...


Not interested in what you lot have to say, so move on, not-so-lackey guy.

 

[Indos]

Hmm that sounds interesting , I guess Indonesia almost became a superpower lol kinda wished it did


I wonder if Indonesia can become a space power also , I mean why not I guess

Well actually I am glad Soekarno fall and our communist party is eliminated. During his period, we are really powerful and even want to invade Andaman island of India while we were still fighting British/Australia/Malaysia/Singapore/New Zealand in Borneo island

 

[Smarana Mitra]

I talked the story what happened during Soekarno regime that is close to Communist, we have third biggest Communist party after CCP and USSR.

Indonesia has already had nuclear reactor in early 1960 and sent many nuclear scientist to USSR, and also launch rocket which is the second country after Japan in Asia that has launched rocket.

Actually CIA report has shown Soekarno want to develop nuclear weapon.

Sanction ???? We attacked Malaysia and Singapore in 1960-1966 and has war with British, Australia, New Zealand, and Malaysia in Borneo and frequently bomb Singapore. We have already become bad boy at that time

The rocket was launched with the help of USA/Japan. For that matter, even Pakistan launched rockets before India. Yet, Pakistan does not have any space vehicles even today and is very far off from having one any time soon. So, Indonesia launching rockets does not mean much.

The fact that many of our nuclear scientist in Rusia and USSR has made nuclear reactor for Indonesia. What we need is to have many nuclear scientist where they study in USSR and of course we will learn to develop it by ourselves.

That may have been the case. But one can't say with certainty that Indonesia would have had nuclear weapons or reactors. That would depend on how much USSR taught these scientists and how much infrastructure was available in Indonesian industries to support that research.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

The positive side of this drama is that China has publicly expressed how much it values its relations with BD.

This diplomatic spat might result in China offering to invest more heavily in our infrastructure and sell cutting edge military equipment.

This is what Momen was going for when he said that, to lead China on... But one wouldn't expect two bit analysts who masturbate to certain events from early 2019 to have the good sense to see this.



Bangladesh isn't rolling over and that's good, those who are already rolled over happen to just be envious of our resolve.

 

[Indos]

The rocket was launched with the help of USA/Japan. For that matter, even Pakistan launched rockets before India. Yet, Pakistan does not have any space vehicles even today and is very far off from having one any time soon. So, Indonesia launching rockets does not mean much.


That may have been the case. But one can't say with certainty that Indonesia would have had nuclear weapons or reactors. That would depend on how much USSR taught these scientists and how much infrastructure was available in Indonesian industries to support that research.

You are close to USSR, dont deny they have given you rocket and nuclear technology to India

 

[SpaceMan18]

The rocket was launched with the help of USA/Japan. For that matter, even Pakistan launched rockets before India. Yet, Pakistan does not have any space vehicles even today and is very far off from having one any time soon. So, Indonesia launching rockets does not mean much.


That may have been the case. But one can't say with certainty that Indonesia would have had nuclear weapons or reactors. That would depend on how much USSR taught these scientists and how much infrastructure was available in Indonesian industries to support that research.

Kinda surprised to see Pakistan with no space launch vehicles while India has like medium lift capacity launch vehicles

 

[UKBengali]

We will see what China respond, but I believe China will just go silence. Something for sure is that BD will likely buy KF 21 instead of J 35 @UKBengali

Nah as BD may as well go direct to the US for F-35 since it will use US engine and S Korean is under heavy US influence.

BD will be fine with something like EFT this decade and so no rush for 5th gen at this time.