Beijing bound Air Malaysia flight loses contact

[Viet]

If they don't know (and they know very little), they shouldn't say anything other than the known facts. Even then, they should double check them prior to release.

Do I need to start on how it was first mentioned the plane was flying for 2 hours then 40 minutes

I encourage you again to read carefully the news and evaluate them before posting nonsense.
Malaysia airline issues defusing information: the plane might have landed somewhere in China, and now it says the plane might have returned to Malaysia (!).

Malaysian transport minister says 4 suspects were on the plane, while the air traffic authority says there were only two. The governement has long denied any possible plane crash, so delays have occured, no search team was mobilised.

 

[cnleio]

2014.03.09 2:30pm China Coast Guard N.o3411 ship arrived accident area at Gulf of Thailand, but they didn't find anything on the sea surface (Wreckage might under sea). Other rescure ships "South Sea Rescure 115", "South Sea Rescure 101" and "Coast Guard 31" etc r driving to accident areas, ships will arrive Gulf of Thailand 03.10--03.11

3月9日9时，中国海上搜救中心协调的中远“泰顺海”轮已抵达疑似海域，开展搜救行动，该船在海面未发现可疑漂浮物。“中国海警3411”预计3月9日14时30分左右抵达疑似海域，此外，“南海救115”、“南海救101”、“海巡31”等船舶正前往疑似海域参与搜救。

 

[Developereo]

criticize the airline for taking so long to announce what was going on and for refusing to answer questions.

There is still no information, so what is the airline supposed to do?

Only irresponsible posters on forums and irresponsible journalists are speculating randomly without any actual information. I can understand the relatives want answers, but the airline is acting responsibly.

 

[cnleio]

China had sent 14 rescue ship, 7 Coast Guard ship and 2 warship

中国派出两艘军舰参与搜救|军舰_凤凰资讯

Navy 071 LPD is very good for this rescure action at Gulf of Thailand, but the problem is we need spend 2 days to arrive accident areas too far away from China.

If MH370's wreckage really under the sea, i think Navy must send nuclear submarine or bathyscaphe to search its 2x 'Black Box' (flight recorder) under Gulf of Thailand.

 

[JSCh]

越媒:新加坡飞机发现可疑物 建议出动船只寻找|马航|失联飞机|可疑物_新浪新闻


越媒:新加坡飞机发现可疑物 建议出动船只寻找
2014年03月09日16:14 人民网

据越南前锋报报道，新加坡的飞机刚发现一可疑物，坐标为东经103度13'30''–北纬08 度21'36''

　　人民网北京3月9日电 据越南前锋报报道，新加坡的飞机刚发现一可疑物，坐标为东经103度13'30''–北纬08 度21'36''，在Tho Chu岛西南偏南100公里处。新加坡建议越南立即出动船只和飞机协助寻找和证明可疑物。

　　目前越南航海搜救配合中心SAR船已经被派到上述位置。

　　可疑物距Tho Chu岛约100公里。(阮思洁)

Chinese media reported that Vietnam news said that Singaporean airplane discovered suspect object at 103°13'30''E, 08°21'36''N. And requested Vietnam to investigate with surface vessel and plane.

 

[xunzi]

It's most likely terrorism or alien abduction. Vietnamse authority needs to be professional, here. This is not the time to play with urgency and trying to get attention from world media.

My heart and prayer goes out to all the victim families. It sadden that many of my compatriots cannot escape terrorist attack. The Horse Year already starts out badly for us.

 

[shuttler]

Why are u asking that question? Shouldn't your Beidou satellite be able to scan the areas and spot the wreckage in a few minutes like you guys claim you can scan Viet Nam and look for our troops in a snap?

Beidou does not work in this way Troll!
The plane tragically lost on the radar scan at night
China received the news some 5 hours later!
Imagine what could have happened in the interim if the plane was disintegrated high in mid air

Dont troll!
This is a tragedy of possible loss of lives of many nations
There is an element of foul-play

Best wishes for the search teams and rescue of survivors!
RIP and Condolences if the worst thing has happened to the families!

 

[Jango]

Search extended to straits of Malacca.

Is it possible that the jet overflew the whole of Malaysia and crashed on the other side?

Highly improbable. Radar would have picked it up.

 

[Khan_patriot]

Very unfortunate, the plane has most probably crashed somewhere in the sea.....

 

[shuttler]

If wreckage is found, a top priority will be recovering the airliner's "black boxes," which are equipped with "pingers" that emit ultrasonic signals that can be detected underwater. Under good conditions, the signals can be detected from several hundred miles away, said John Goglia, a former member of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board.

If the boxes are trapped inside the wreckage, the sound may not travel as far. If the boxes are at the bottom of an underwater trench, that also hinders how far the sound can travel. Signals can weaken over time.

Oil slicks found in hunt for missing Malaysian jet with 239 aboard | 6abc.com

 

[cnleio]

If wreckage is found, a top priority will be recovering the airliner's "black boxes," which are equipped with "pingers" that emit ultrasonic signals that can be detected underwater. Under good conditions, the signals can be detected from several hundred miles away, said John Goglia, a former member of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board.

If the boxes are trapped inside the wreckage, the sound may not travel as far. If the boxes are at the bottom of an underwater trench, that also hinders how far the sound can travel. Signals can weaken over time.

Oil slicks found in hunt for missing Malaysian jet with 239 aboard | 6abc.com

A simple problem, spend days or years to find out MH370's 'black boxes' underwater. As i said, now need send nuclear submarine and sub rescure ship carrying bathyscaphe to arrive incident areas, rescure passangers & salvage wreckages need work together.

 

[shuttler]

A simple problem, spend days or years to find out MH370's 'black boxes' underwater. As i said, now need send nuclear submarine and sub rescure ship carrying bathyscaphe to arrive incident areas, rescure passangers & salvage wreckages need work together.

you miss the point
they are still trying to locate the damn wreckage and the location of the fall
what is a nuke sub to do here!

My point actually is:
Why the black box is not attached to any postioning systems like the GPS (before it sank) which I think the Malaysian Airline should be using instead of "emitting ultrasonic signals" which is next to useless in such a wide area particularly when the whole thing sank in deep water!

 

[BoQ77]

Let's share the useful information only, a suspect with any signal even very little ... still good.
The search and rescue would be applied to several suspects at the same time ... because a single little suspect could be a clue ...

As requested by Singapore and Malaysia, Vietnam airplane and surface boats approaching to new site with an unidentifiedf floating yellow color item ( in red circle )... so does US and China airplane and ships.

Có hai vật thể lạ

Tin từ Sở chỉ huy Trung tâm tìm kiếm cứu nạn quốc gia, có hai vật thể lạ, một là vật thể nghi vấn màu vàng cách đảo Thổ Chu khoảng 100 km, và một vật thể khác đã xác định không liên quan đến máy bay mất tích.

There are two floating items, one confirmed by US not related to missing plane. The remain is approached by Vietnam and China surface ships ...


The US military cooperation dept controlled by US Embassy in Hanoi confirmed 1 item this is not related to the missing airplane. They acted too fast.

Quoted texts : the top for location of new item found ... the below : location of oil slicks the bottom : the lost contact location


Using a nuclear sub is not the good idea, because the depth of the Gulf of Thailand about 50-60meters only ... using the P3C Orion is good, count to its range, speed and other useful function ...

Vietnam should purchase some of this aircraft kind like S Korea did

 

[imiakhtar]

The numbers below are for a 777-200 powered by GE-90 engines. The Malay 777 with RR engines would have slightly better climb performance.

The flight was likely to be less than 230t at take-off and would have taken 20 minutes or so to climb to cruise. Given that an additional 20min elapsed at cruise prior to disappearance, it is unlikely a pressure sensitive device exploded as some are suggesting

 

[BoQ77]

(CNN) Two people who traveled on the missing Malaysian Airlines flight under the passports of an Italian and an Austrian citizen appear to have bought their tickets together.
The tickets were bought from China Southern Airlines in Thai baht at identical prices according to China’s official e ticket verification system Travelsky. The ticket numbers are contiguous which indicates the tickets were issued together.

The new information adds to the mystery that has enveloped the fate of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 the passenger jet that disappeared over Southeast Asia early Saturday on its way to Beijing.

Italy and Austria have said that none of their citizens were on board the plane. And officials say the Italian and Austrian whose names were on the passenger manifest both had their passports stolen in Southeast Asia in recent years.

The two tickets booked with China Southern Airlines both start in Kuala Lumpur flying to Beijing and then onward to Amsterdam. The Italian passport’s ticket continues to Copenhagen the Austrian’s to Frankfurt.

Authorities say they are investigating the identities of some of those on board who appear to have issues with their passports.