Before leaving to join terrorists in Iraq, Kalyan youths adopted a life of austerity

[notsuperstitious]

Damn. Never say a young muslim suddenly become very religious and start planting trees or helping the poor or teaching kids... its always this crap - go kill someone, hate someone, control women, don't watch movies etc etc...

 

[forcetrip]

You are at least trying to question them and challenge them. Here the idiot Hindus encourage them by saying how right they are. The biggest scum mullahs have the commie intelligentsia's support because the atheists believe if they don't support the Mullahs and his followers they are oppressing Islam and Muslims.

I had grown out my beard for personal reasons. A few days back I went to my barber, same guy I have been going since childhood. Told him to shave it off and he said. "You want me to "Shaheed" your beard"? Can you imagine what his mental capability is to consider my hair to be "Shaheed"? These happen to me in my daily life, especially at work. I made him "Shaheed" my Beard and winning over a brain with reason at a time is all I can do. Thats all you can hope to do as well. You can not change the current of the river, ,but digging canals could save some water from being unusable in the sea.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Relax. Do not paint everything around you with one boring color. Everyone is different. Its true some are misguided but its fun bringing them back. By first trying powerful reasoning and then implementing a less interesting way, brute force. Always remember, using force is like the easy road and never produces the results you are looking for. Sometimes necessity wins over reason.

Problem is if we use force, we will be labelled as communal. What to do ?

 

[abjktu]

Yeah sure. Look under your chair if Lord Manvan is not hiding under it. Go ask the newspaper editor if he was sure it was not Manvan who went to Iraq to make Muslims look bad.

...just use common sense...
a muslim(??) bashing India/Indians &supporting mullah terrorist groups in a Pakistani defense forum,that too sitting in India.?? anything rings???

 

[Indrani]

You know a place called DLF1 in kolkata( its near new town) ? I was there. What I saw was interesting. I saw few burkha clad woman working in a huge software company there. I have never seen this before. I realized that gradually society is radicalized because of some unknown reason. They dont want to integrate with rest of us. What we should do ?

They never wanted to integrate with us. That is why Pakistan happened. It is impossible. Any question you as a Hindu would do them would be deemed hostile and derogatory. Any question a "liberal" Muslim would do them would be considered as coming from a sold out Muslim. It is time people stopped praising Islam and just simply tried to get away those they can. Does not matter if they don't become "Hindus." Atheism, Rastafarian, Scientology, Druidism whatever stuff is available out there would do.

 

[Imran Khan]

Naseeb or the misses is not giving enough pocket money.

uncle main aik din zaroor dubai jaoon ga

 

[Secur]

Adopting austerity is one of the know signs of creeping radicalization and has been well-studied:

QUOTE: "Though the methodology of missionary organizations may be peaceful, the acceptance of their message increases the likelihood that youth will also accept the message of religious-political or militant groups as being absolute. For example, missionary organizations such as the male-focused Tableeghi Jamaat and the female-oriented Al-Huda, which have the largest public reach, have the potential to increase youth receptiveness to more radical groups by reinforcing messages of a primarily Islamic identity, through the rejection of indigenous ethnic, national or tribal identities as well as foreign cultural and political signifiers. By popularizing an exclusive Islamic or sectarian identity, they may contribute to alignment with more radical organizations, and the rejection of pluralistic politics." /QUOTE.

Shunning movies and music is a practical way to demonstrate the shunning of foreign cultural influences. When society rewards such behavior by accepting it as a qualification of piety rather than close-mindedness, the stage is set.

Like putting a patient on immunosuppressants and then exposing him to infections!

I figured out that much but I wasn't aware that it has been well studied.

 

[Indrani]

Thousands of particular Muslims have already left for Iraw. But the media isn't reporting on that. Clerics are openly recruiting in India.No one is concerned. Why the double standards?

Thousands of Indian Muslims volunteer to protect holy shrines in Iraq

Oh please Manvan you cannot fool Indian liberals by pretending to be Mujhaidind. They are too smart for your kind. Also we know that you are posting all dubious links which have not been quoted in any mainstream media. So STFU will you. You Hindutva terrorist.

 

[VCheng]

Like putting a patient on immunosuppressants and then exposing him to infections!

I figured out that much but I wasn't aware that it has been well studied.

It is more like having a patient drink poison while leading him to believe he is drinking the very elixir of everlasting life.

The view from outside watching in rather than from within watching out is sometimes far more informative. I am lucky enough to have that opportunity and hence my words and views here, which are frank and true, but upsetting for most.

No matter, at least I am telling it like it is, like it or not.

 

[mujhaidind]

Oh please Manvan you cannot fool Indian liberals by pretending to be Mujhaidind. They are too smart for your kind. Also we know that you are posting all dubious links which have not been quoted in any mainstream media. So STFU will you. You Hindutva terrorist.

Are you smoking some charas?

 

[Indrani]

...just use common sense...
a muslim(??) bashing India/Indians &supporting mullah terrorist groups in a Pakistani defense forum,that too sitting in India.?? anything rings???

@forcetrip look at this guy. This is the level of intelligence we have available in India. This is the majority. They refuse to believe that Indian Muslims can be radicalized. This after India is one of the most affected country of Islamic terrorism. What can you do when the country is made up of such fools?

 

[Indrani]

Are you smoking some charas?

What do you mean I am smoking charas. @abjktu has discovered your real identity and purpose which is to make Indians hate Muslims and Islam. He is the one who told me you are Manvan. You cannot fool him ever. You shiv sainik Hindu terrorist.

 

[cloud_9]

uncle main aik din zaroor dubai jaoon ga

Uncle ??? How can a 25 year old be your uncle

 

[Bhasad Singh Mundi]

where are congressi mullahs like aiyyar??

 

[VCheng]

Like putting a patient on immunosuppressants and then exposing him to infections!

I figured out that much but I wasn't aware that it has been well studied.

Here is a diagram to show the situation in easy-to-understand pictorial form: