Beanzir---was seperated from Zardari

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

It is my understanding that Benazir was on her way to divorce Zardari---but on the insistance of a close family member she seperated from Zardari---is there a witness to the seperation or was there a document---it is rumored that there is a heart surgeon an older gentleman here in california, who was a party / witness to this seperation. The rumour has it that Benazir would divorce zardari after the elections. Now if this information is true then somebody gave her a bad bad advice---she should have divorced Zardari before she sought for elections---that would have really boosted her image---but alas---.

It is a second party information that Makhdoon Amin Fahim has stated that Benazir's will is a total fake---Zardari and associates have committed another massive fraud with the nation and shamelessly all the higher ups of pppp are involved. This person is a very close friend of Amin Fahim and a very good friend of mine.

Zardari's move to punjab is tactical---the sindhi vaderas have contempt for him---he is beneath them---a petty criminal---punjab suites him well---the sindhi vaderas are not scared of Zardari but the punjabi landlords and party higher ups are.

I told my friend to enforce upon Amin Fahim not to step back for the positin of prime ministership. It his moral duty and moral obligation to be the prime minister of the country.

 

[yarmook]

Its a messy situation, Mastan khan will appreciate if you can possibly elaborate it more. thanks.

 

[HAIDER]

Sir Mastan, few reasons about not having Faheem as PM, first Nawaz League objection, very straight forward person. Second PPP wants to choose someone with business background. A trend of past govt Shaukat Aziz or Indian PM Manmohan Singh.
But somthing went wrong in PPP. Might have explosive situation in the first session of assembly.
Waiting for March 18th. We saw in media some of PPP party member are acting lke lapdog. Specially Jangir Badar's surprising comments about the appoint of Zardari as PM. And media allegation about not having democracy inside the party. A complete dictatorship in both major parties in assembly.

 

[batmannow]

WOO, MR, MASTAN KHAN, wana clap for you, if you can go ahead for futher more on that, also can you put more light on the issue of leadership of the party, in my view it is the issue which will going to become more important than everything.

i wana know that , did you find that, MAKHDOM AMIN realize that? and who he thinks can be a true new gen. leader of PPP, what he thinks about FATIMA MURTAZA BHUTTO.
ppp has started falling down, and the trouble geting tougher & tougher, it seems that !after wining the gen. elections ppp is losing its inside?

I guss, NAWAZ had played dangerously to destroy ppp, and there are ppp members who doesnt like that all, its un-understandable why, ZARDARI made NAWAZ a bigger leader than whole of ppp.

SIMPLY GREAT, VERY GREAT POST AFTER LONG TIME.

 

[fatman17]

Hi,

It is my understanding that Benazir was on her way to divorce Zardari---but on the insistance of a close family member she seperated from Zardari---is there a witness to the seperation or was there a document---it is rumored that there is a heart surgeon an older gentleman here in california, who was a party / witness to this seperation. The rumour has it that Benazir would divorce zardari after the elections. Now if this information is true then somebody gave her a bad bad advice---she should have divorced Zardari before she sought for elections---that would have really boosted her image---but alas---.

It is a second party information that Makhdoon Amin Fahim has stated that Benazir's will is a total fake---Zardari and associates have committed another massive fraud with the nation and shamelessly all the higher ups of pppp are involved. This person is a very close friend of Amin Fahim and a very good friend of mine.

Zardari's move to punjab is tactical---the sindhi vaderas have contempt for him---he is beneath them---a petty criminal---punjab suites him well---the sindhi vaderas are not scared of Zardari but the punjabi landlords and party higher ups are.

I told my friend to enforce upon Amin Fahim not to step back for the positin of prime ministership. It his moral duty and moral obligation to be the prime minister of the country.

MK- i know this much - if BB was still alive, zardari would be put in the deep freezer, meaning absolutely no role in the govt. alas!

 

[Goodperson]

What about Benazir's will ?

 

[Interceptor]

Hi,

It is my understanding that Benazir was on her way to divorce Zardari---but on the insistance of a close family member she seperated from Zardari---is there a witness to the seperation or was there a document---it is rumored that there is a heart surgeon an older gentleman here in california, who was a party / witness to this seperation. The rumour has it that Benazir would divorce zardari after the elections. Now if this information is true then somebody gave her a bad bad advice---she should have divorced Zardari before she sought for elections---that would have really boosted her image---but alas---.

It is a second party information that Makhdoon Amin Fahim has stated that Benazir's will is a total fake---Zardari and associates have committed another massive fraud with the nation and shamelessly all the higher ups of pppp are involved. This person is a very close friend of Amin Fahim and a very good friend of mine.

Zardari's move to punjab is tactical---the sindhi vaderas have contempt for him---he is beneath them---a petty criminal---punjab suites him well---the sindhi vaderas are not scared of Zardari but the punjabi landlords and party higher ups are.

I told my friend to enforce upon Amin Fahim not to step back for the positin of prime ministership. It his moral duty and moral obligation to be the prime minister of the country.

Your chatting bull **** what fantacy world do you live in .
Chacha Gee Amin Faheem has not contested for the PM slot he has specifically said he will support who ever is to be the PM in this interview with Hamid Mir, if Mr Zardari is elected by the party to be PM then he is simple as that.

Its PPP decision not Amin Faheem's and it supported by PML-N and ANP and they are allowed to say who they see is fit to do so, recently PML-N has voiced the concern that Aitazaz Ahsan should be a elected in the NA and PML-N will fully support him, PPP has yet to make decisions about this.

You have friend in high places yeah right yo best ever thread on Defence.pk unbelievable even after she has died your creed doesn't give up.

So Mastan tell us the inside story man who is the next PM you know probably know.

 

[sparten]

MastanKhan, Zaradaris biggest problem with the Sindhis is that he is not infact a Sindhi. All nis problems start from there.

 

[blain2]

I told my friend to enforce upon Amin Fahim not to step back for the positin of prime ministership. It his moral duty and moral obligation to be the prime minister of the country.

Although I do understand your insistence that he should not back down in the face of Mr. 10%, however its not his duty nor obligation to be the PM. If he were to become a PM, in essence he would perpetuate the hold of waderas and landed aristocracy (not sure if this is the appropriate word for these folks as most of them are absolutely illiterate) on the Pakistani politics. We need to move away from the likes of him.

Aside from his dedication to PPP, there is not much else to show for him. In my book at least, his squabbling with Zardari (another massive chorr of the highest order) is an internal feudal issue. Otherwise they are all alike.

Nothing but disappointing figures on the Pakistani political landscape currently.

 

[HAIDER]

Future of PPP is PPP Sind and PPP punjab ???????

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

I forgot to state that the doctor I mentioned is a pakistani living in california.

Few people are understanding ( correct me if I am wrong ) that pakistan peoples party parliamentarin is registered in the name of Amin Fahim---where he is the president of the PPPP. When the party tickets were distributed, it was Amin Fahim who made the decisions to nominate whomsoever he gave the tickets to---he had the final say in the matters---.

For all practical purposes Amin Fahim was the actual leader of the PPPP and still is. After Benazir's death the pppp got hiacked---as far as I know---by the punjabi pppp members and they became partners with Zardari to take out Amin---.

If you have not heard it by now---you will pretty soon---behind Benazir's bullet proof SUV was another SUV with Sherry Rahman and etc---after the explosion, that vehicle with the pppp members took off, and hid at Zardari house---leaving Benazir's vehicle stranded on the street---you guys know by now that a private vehicle was stopped and Benazir body was taken to the hospital in that.

There are more twists and turns in this scenario than a hundred mystery novels.

My source is a very close and dear relative ( and not a friend---even though he is a friend as well ) of mine---when Nawaz was over thrown by Musharraf and the martial law was imposed---one of the top pakistani leaders out of fear of being killed by the the millitary left his family at my buddy's house for many days---that guy was afraid that the millitary was going to kill him and kill his family also.

I am sharing with you what I know---if you want to believe it---that is fine and if you don't---I could care less---but you are going to see some statements from Amin Fahim that you would not have anticipated from him---Amin has taken a stand for now---.

People often take Amin fahim's kindness for simplicity---even though he is a simple man---but remember he was the man to keep the party afloat for close to ten years. So, please don't underestimate his resource.

Interceptor---there is one thing I don't do now and have never done before---talk about the bull-----I will let you in on a GEM---it is only for you---IF YOU WANT A GOOD STEAK___YOU TAKE THE BUTCHER"S WORD FOT IT___YOU DON'T NEED TO STICK YOUR HEAD IN THE BULL AR-SE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT THE RIGHT CUT.

 

[MOSABJA]

In your post first of all these things .some of them are true.

1)Yes the party which won the elections is Pakistan peoples party parliamentarians Not pakistan peoples party.Whose president OFFICIALLY and CONSTITUTIONALLY is Amin Fahim.The reason is that in 2002 elections there were fears that if PPP took part then its leader BB as the corruption charges were on her could be disqualified as a result PPP might as a whole be disqualified.So PPPP(Parliamentarians) was registered with Amin Fahim as president.


One thing is really interesting that the DEFLECTION CLAUSE article 63 A which was inducted by NS.The article states that any member who on the issue of PM NOMINATIONS,NO CONFIDENCE and BUDGET violates and Crosses the floor against the orders of PARTY on whose ticket he won is DISQUALIFIED.

Which means that if Amin Fahim names himself a candidate then in might be BINDING on PPPP members to vote from him other wise tis DEFLECTIION CLAUSE.

But there is another view which is that in ARTICLE 63 A only world Parliamentary committe is mentioned.That any member who violates the orders of Parliamentary Committie(NOT PARTY PRESIDENT) shall be disqualified .In this case its not binding on PPPP mems to obey FAHIM and they should only follow Parliamentary party.

 

[MOSABJA]

Now as far as the issue of leaving BB on road is concerned.I think this is TRUE that the SUV which was behind BBs .In which there were PPP Punjab leaders after the blast instead of looking for BB turned towards Zardari house.

now I dont know.

WHETHER
Its a conspiracy and these guys themselves are involved.but I think its not possible bcz.This is the more likely case that the SUV following BBs SUV might have thought that

1)BB could be safe as she got out safely from karachi bomb blast.
2)It was expected that another bomb blast might hit the SUV behind.So they took a course towards Zardari house.

BIT NO WORD IS FINAL.

I dont suspect the PPP punjab leaders of behind BBs killing.


NOW THE ISSUE OF DIVORCE.

This kind of question was asked by Dr Shahid Masud to BB when these things were in the air that BB and Zardari are not going along well.

BB answered Dr Shahid Masud by saying.

"YOu will not ask such a question to Musharaf that whether he is going along well with his wife or not why are you asking this question to me???just bcz I am a women and our society is dominated by male.I have no problems with my spouse!!"


and I cant say about the WILL of BB.It might be true and I think it is true as they showed it to the media .It was in BBs handwriting.

BUT NO WORD IS FINAL.

 

[MOSABJA]

On the issue of their separation.I dont really think that they were separated .But there might be some problems in their marriage.

When these stories were released

The End Of The Affair by Mariana Baabar| DesPardes.com

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan


After this BB denied having any serious problem with Zardari while giving interview to Shahid masud.

http://news.webindia123.com/news/ar_showdetails.asp?id=701280215&cat=&n_date=20070128

Now choice is yours.Believe in any source you like.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

If Benazir wanted to admit in front of Dr Shahid----she would have been better off divorcing Zardari. In due time people will talk and we will learn something different.

There is no conspiracy---but then Sherry Rahman and co just ran away to save their hides---self preservation took over---the queen is dead---long live the monarchy. They cared less for their leader when it counted the most. The incidence showed a lack of planning on the part of the party, if anything untoward happened what steps would be taken to extradite the leadership from the carnage.

It was not the first incidence that would have taken them by surprise---but the rumour has it that the party security management was totally unqualified to arrange security and related matters for the leader. It consisted of criminal element who were basically thugs---it is a sorry state when the nations leading party, believes that petty and hardcore criminals can provide security of the future leader of the country, rather than proffessionals----but that happens when people are seurity conscious---sadly majority pakistanis are not security conscious.