B'desh steps up troops deployment on Myanmar border amid row

[Jako]

Eastwatch,try to understand,what dbnreaper meant in the last paragraph of his post........you will come to know,why many term him as racist here

 

[pmukherjee]

Firstly. Border Fencing.
1. US - Mexican Border. - "The 1,951 mile (3,141 km) border between the United States and Mexico traverses a variety of terrains, including urban areas and deserts. The barrier is located on both urban and uninhabited sections of the border, areas where the most concentrated numbers of illegal crossings and drug trafficking have been observed in the past. These urban areas include San Diego, California and El Paso, Texas. As of August 29, 2008, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security had built 190 miles (310 km) of pedestrian border fence and 154.3 miles (248.3 km) of vehicle border fence, for a total of 344.3 miles (554.1 km) of fence. The completed fence is mainly in New Mexico, Arizona, and California, with construction under way in Texas. [2]............."
2. Pak - Afghan Border. - "Islamabad, Jan 10: After introducing sophisticated biometric system to regulate the movement of people at Chaman Border Point with Afghanistan, Pakistan said it will complete fencing in parts of its border with Afghanistan by July 2007 to prevent cross border infiltration of Taliban militants.
The biometric system that regulate the entry and exit points was inaugurated at Chaman border yesterday by Pakistan Interior Minister Aftab Khan Sherpao..........................."
3. Indo-Bangla Border. - "The Indo-Bangla border fencing project is expected to be completed by March 2010, an official statement said on............."
4. Indo-Burma Border. - "India defence.com: 18 September, 2006
The Home Ministry has taken up various measures to accelerate the fencing works along the Indo-Myanmar border to check illegal drug trafficking in the region........................"
5. Burma-BD Border. - "DHAKA: Bangladesh says its eastern neighbour Myanmar is "unilaterally" erecting a barbed wire fencing along its border and has mobilised troops and naval force.
Tension runs high along the Bangladesh-Myanmar 200 km long border, The Daily Star said Tuesday quoting unnamed defence sources............ "The reinforcements are still there but we do not have any information about the construction of fences," Hossain said.
"Bangladesh has no problem if Myanmar erects fences on their territory, he said adding, "It will curb smuggling and illegal trespassing". ........................"
6. India also has a border fence with Pakistan. It is constructed well inside Indian territory and at no time did Pakistan object to it. Only objections we heard came from cross border militant organisations who were the 'Raison d'être' for the fence.
7. I am well aware of the history of South Africa. At no point of time did you face the kind of threat from violent islamic terror groups that India today faces. You did face some threat from communist backed guerrillas from neighbouring countries but they were more in the nature of bush fighters, raiders and poachers. You therefore cant percieve the situation in South Asia or the middle East. Yes I am aware that there is some kind of restriction imposed by the UN, but the UN people do not have to die from Fidayeen attacks. So a nation has to take care of itself.

Secondly. Race/Religion.
I have nothing to do with your being white or muslim. I detected a strong anti-Indian undercurrent in your post and was trying to pin it down. Glad you cleared the mystery.

Mahatma Gandhi
Yes DbnReaper, your comments about Mahatma Gandhi were in extreme bad taste. Initially, I was annoyed at you for pouncing on Kidman, a raw fresher on his very first post but when I saw the snide reference to Mahatma Gandhi, I lost my cool, something I dont generaly do. Mahatma Gandhi was the father of modern India. We owe our independance and freedom to him. I would never dream of talking ill, even in jest, of people like Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu or even Cecil Rhodes for that matter.

Indians in SA
Now about protecting your nations interests from Indian/Chinese businesses. You are a white South African, right? You are a descendant of the British/Dutch adventurers/soldiers/businessmen who were the original capitalists the world has seen, right? Isn't South Africa founded basically on principles of capitalism? Well post aparthied, a certain degree of socialism may have crept in due to influence of ANC, but the identity of SA is basically that of a capitalist country. If Indian/Chinese businesses are better than your native businesses, you will get your *** kicked, isn't that just what free market capitalism stands for? After all the Indians who have gone there are not asking for your charity to survive, they are competing with your businessmen in your country on your terms and yet you feel threatened?

Any way, DbnReaper, nice interacting with you. It was a learning. Would not mind keeping in touch with you. No hard feelings. BTW, between the two of us, we may have managed to derail this thread.

 

[Iggy]

Would you mind telling us exactly which part of the statement made by DbnReaper proves that he is a racist. He claimed himself to be a white South African, but Muslim. But, he was telling about the way you have erected barbed wire fences along the border with only BD in order to humiliate it.

You have been doing all these nasty things after knowing that BD response would be meek only because of its weak state of economy and military. But, do not worry, we are keeping all the records very carefully. A time will surely come when we will be repaying all your favours. Perhaps, you are getting the return already. BD will not give you gas transit from Burma, and land transit to your NE.

BD-Burma problem is different. They do not want the dark skinned Rohingya refugees to go back from BD to their motherland in Arakan. So, Burma is erecting fence. A million refugee is too much and these Rohingyas are prone to committing crimes. They take BD Passports and go to the middle-east, where they commit various crimes. They have become quite a liability to BD.

But, the latest problem is the distance from the border the Burmese are erecting fence. It should be 150m away, but they are erecting at 150 ft away.

Oh and whilst you are at it, also sign a petition to ask your government to stop exporting Indians to South Africa. We have enough of the 1860s settlers here. Or else we maybe forced to prevent them from travelling on 1st class carriages again

^^ you dont think its not racist remark??? and about repaying us for all our favors..don't worry we will be ready.take your own time..and tell me one thing..did we fence forcefully in your territory??Every one knows Illegal migrants are an headache for every country..your above statement about the Rohingyas is a proof for that ..We fenced our part of the territory..and please enlighten me how come its a problem for common Bangladeshis??these fences are for preventing illegal migrants.We didn't stop you from coming to our country with proper documents..you are most welcome here ..and also we also erected barbed wire fences along the border of Pakisthan too.

 

[leonblack08]

They should be always on guard.BPs should be increased.BTW,do the Burmese have tanks?Can tanks be operated in the BD-Burma border terrain?

Off course they have tanks,and in fact in larger number than Bangladesh.And operate almost the same tanks we do.But I don't think the terrain is suitable for a tank battle.Anyone correct me if I am wrong on the terrain.

 

[HK-47]

I believe you are.The terrain is mountaineous.

Troops all alert on Myanmar front
Leaves of BDR men restricted; Nasaka round up 10,000 Rohingyas for push-in
Myanmar authorities continue erecting concrete pillars for barbed wire fence along Myanmar border at Naikkhangchhari in Bandarban.



In the wake of the mobilisation of a huge number of Myanmarese troops along the border, Bangladesh is making all-out preparations to thwart any incursion attempt by them, highly placed sources in the government said.

Bangladesh has already sent three army brigades to its hilly border with Myanmar and has readied another brigade following the deliberate provocative moves the latter, sources said.

Intelligence officials said Bangladesh Armed Forces are taking special exercises to handle any eventualities if all diplomatic channels to resolve the conflict are exhausted.

The Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) has imposed restriction on all kinds of leaves, a move which is taken only in 'abnormal' situation, BDR Director General (DG) Major General Mainul Islam said.

A Foreign Ministry official, however, said Bangladesh believes that all crises with its neighbours could be solved through diplomatic means. "But that does not mean that we will remain idle if the country's territorial sovereignty is at stake," he said.

The DG of the country's border forces said, "This is an abnormal situation. No country generally deploys its armed forces on the border. We don't like the erection of barbed-wire fences by the engineering corps of the Myanmar army.”

He said his forces are always on war footing. "Our boys will just open fire in case of incursion into any part of the country," he told The Daily Star.

Meanwhile, Nasaka, the Myanmarese border guards, has gathered about 10,000 Rohingyas near its border with Bangladesh in a bid to push them into the Bangladesh territory as part of their latest provocative move, sources at the intelligence agencies said last night.

They have been kept at several bordering points opposite Naikhongchhari in Bandarban over the past few days, they said.

The recent Myanmarese military deployment has prompted Bangladesh to strengthen its military presence along the border.

Asked about what further measures he is going to take, Mainul said BDR will be reinforced with more Border Operations Outposts (BOP) on the Bangladesh-Myanmar border.

The reinforcement was required as the Myanmar military junta deployed huge troops with heavy weapons within five kilometres of the border.

According to different sources on the border, Myanmar has deployed nine military battalions. They were deployed last Friday along the border from Maungdaw to Paletwa. They are: Light Battalions 55 and 20, and Light Infantry Battalions (LIB) 234, 263, 344, 233, 289 and 538.

The LIB 538 based in Rathidaung has been shifted to the Paletwa border and posted at the triangular position facing Bangladesh and India borders, intelligence officials said.

Intelligence sources said Myanmar had recently acquired the technology of building tunnels, aircraft, naval ships and missiles with a range of between 500 and 1,000 kilometres.

Recently the Japanese government has intercepted the supply of magnetic measuring devices used to build long-range ballistic missile system; the shipment was made to Myanmar.

A raid made by the country's police suggests that North Korea has already transferred the Taep'o-dong-2 equipment to Myanmar. Weighed 79,189 kg, Taep'o-dong-2 is the longest of North Korean missiles--it is thought to have a range of 4,000 kilometres.

Myanmarese junta has already bought short and medium-range ballistic missiles (SRMBs) from China and North Korea, SRMB air defence system from Russia, low altitude surface-to-surface missiles from Ukraine and Bulgaria.

Our Bandarban correspondent Monirul Islam Monu reports: People living on the Bangladesh-Myanmar bordering areas have become panicky because of a war-like situation at the frontier.

Locals said Myanmar authorities have increased army deployment at the border under cover of setting up barbed-wire fences there.

Sources who have contacts with both sides of the border said the Myanmar army had set up equipments for high-powered artillery fire at Bolibazar area opposite Chakdhala border at Naikhhongchhari upazila.

Myanmar has also stationed 10 fighter planes at Sittowe (Akiab) Airport and anchored 12 warships in its two rivers as "backup".

source:The Daily Star :: Online Edition

I am reading nothing about naval forces so far.The 24 Infantry Division has 4 brigades then.If they push in we should go in attack and take those freaking pillars down and push them back.

 

[TopCat]

Seems like Myanmarese are preparing for real war. Thanks to our intellegence. They gathered all the information.
Is Bangladesh talking to our allies? What uncle sam is saying? How about middle eastern Saudis and Kuwaitis? We could borrow some firgters from Saudis. Bomb the hell out of Rengoon with Saudi F-15.

 

[TopCat]

As the Myanmarese gathered army in the Indian border as well, what is the movement of Indian Army? Anybody give me anything regarding Indian army in Burmese border?

 

[arihant]

India might not intervene in the war because it doesn't represent its interest. The reason is that India will for no reason be involved in news. If China support Burma with Military help, USA could flew for BD.

 

[arihant]

As the Myanmarese gathered army in the Indian border as well, what is the movement of Indian Army? Anybody give me anything regarding Indian army in Burmese border?

Indian army hardly operate in Myanmar but it will need to operate if anything wrong goes with situation with neighbors.

 

[TopCat]

India might not intervene in the war because it doesn't represent its interest. The reason is that India will for no reason be involved in news. If China support Burma with Military help, USA could flew for BD.

I am not expecting India to get involved. But its very natural that if there were army movement in the border, then the other country mobilse or alert its troops. Myanamar gathered army in both Indian and BD boder according to the above news.


Why Burmese are doing this I do not uderstand??? Are they idiot or something?

 

[mijanur]

sorry guys but who is uncle sam?

 

[Comet]

sorry guys but who is uncle sam?

Washington DC

 

[mijanur]

Washington DC

oh kl....wat abt britain then

 

[TopCat]

See the Burmese media reporting.. Its old news but still has its relevance now..

Bangladesh military exercise near border
Dhaka (Mizzima) – Closely monitired by the Burmese Army, the Bangladeshi armed forces comprising of the army, navy and air force are conducting a joint military exercise in the Bay of Bengal, near the maritime boundary of the two contiguous countries.

Two military exercises, including one in Cox's Bazaar, about 80 kms from the Bangladesh-Burma border, were conducted on May 8th and 13th respectively.

"About 500 personnel from the army, navy and air force units took part in the exercises," a Bangladeshi intelligence source told Mizzima.

Burma, Rakhine State, Ann based Western Command instructed over 1,000 soldiers stationed in Maungdaw to build the border fence, Nasaka (border authority) personnel and the Township Police Force to suspend all their routine work and put them on alert.

"We received orders from the Western Command on May 9. They instructed us not to leave our units and be on stand by. I do not know until which date the order will be in place," a security agency source told Mizzima.

It has been reported that Burmese naval boats and land forces are on stand by mode and are closely watching the situation.

"Sittwe Yechanpyin-based 4 naval boats are patrolling the maritime boundary round the clock," a naval source said.

Moreover the naval vessels from Danyawadi naval base in Yaychanpyin, Sittwe have been patrolling along the maritime boundary between both countries since May 13, a schooner owner, who is currently in Shinmaphyu Island, Teknaf Township, Bangladesh, on a business tour said.

Although Bangladesh did not disclose the intention behind their military exercise, it coincided with the building of the border fence, along the border by Burma.

According to the international law, the border fence must be built 300 yards from the zero line on the border. However, Burma is building its border fence within 50 yards from this international border.

Bangladesh Border Defence Regiment (BDR) Chief Col. Minul Hossion warned on May 4, saying, "If the international law is violated, we will not be mute spectators waiting with folded arms," through the Bangladeshi media after returning from his visit to the Burma-Bangladesh border.

A daily paper from Cox's Bazaar reported that the Burmese Nasaka (border security force) responded to the presentation submitted to them by Bangladesh officials, insisting on erecting border fencing beyond 300 yards limit of the border, by saying, "It should be communicated through government-to-government channel and we cannot do anything in this regard," at the joint meeting between Burmese and Bangladeshi border authorities held on April 24.
http://www.mizzima.com/news/regional/2135-bangladesh-military-exercise-near-border.html

 

[mijanur]

Seems like Myanmarese are preparing for real war. Thanks to our intellegence. They gathered all the information.
Is Bangladesh talking to our allies? What uncle sam is saying? How about middle eastern Saudis and Kuwaitis? We could borrow some firgters from Saudis. Bomb the hell out of Rengoon with Saudi F-15.

r saudis our feriends??? i know that quait is///

i like this guy minul islam..the way he speaks seems confident to me..