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Zabanya bro, there is actually no scope to deny the mail. Many many source have said that Major Zia is really missing after reading about it online and then taking info from their army links. So if you need to make it a spoof... You have a car, the address is given. 20 minutes from your home.....



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Ain O Salish Kendra a rights organization sent letter to Awami regime 3 months ago about abduction and secret killing but Awami regime did not provide any response. Awami regime home minister recently said she was not aware of abduction and secret killing. Awami regime unwillingness further proves regime involvement in opposition party leaders, ward commissioner, civil and army officers disappearances and some of their killings.

Report in Bangla:
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Here are details from Bangla newpaper Amardeshonline tried to contact ISPR on Major Zia (Ziaul Haque) status and abduction incident. ISPR official dodged the query and did not let journalist go inside for official interview. Daily Amardesh journalists also tried to reach Major Zia's home address but army official also prevented journalist to reach there.

If Major Zia's case was false ISRP would love to brag about the propaganda campaign. But instead the way army officials or whoever running the show on surface prevented simple query and reaching Major Zia's house, it raises obvious question what army is hiding??

Interestingly, someone called amardeshonline and identified himself as DGFI officials and asked the newspaper not to publish this report. When newspaper said we would like to have official statement on the matter so we can publish it and let people know of your position, claimed DGFI official keep calling and asking not to publish the report.

1) If it were mere hoax then why ISRP or DGFI prevented journalist to pose any question or reach Major Zia's home address?

2) Why ISPR or DGFI did not give any statement if this incident were not true.

3) Why DGFI repeatedly called and asked newspaper not to publish the report but would not deny the incident?

Now, news of Major Ziaul Haque disappearance and incident of his abduction has gotten validation from ISRP and DGFI itself.

Please read the report in Bangla:
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Zabanya bro, there is actually no scope to deny the mail. Many many source have said that Major Zia is really missing after reading about it online and then taking info from their army links. So if you need to make it a spoof... You have a car, the address is given. 20 minutes from your home.....

Faarhan, you're one of the more likeable characters here (not in a gay sense :D) and don't want to cross swords with you.

In my family and among my close relatives, almost everyone is either 1) serving in the armed forces, 2) serving in the civil service administration or 3) are businesspeople. So you'd guess I know how things work within the armed forces. Heck, my dad was a senior commander under late General Zia during the liberation war and his BAF batch was the first group of GD(P) in the newly born BAF.

I'll tell you a little story I heard from my dad.

While he was undergoing training in the erstwhile USSR as a teenage cadet, one of his instructor offered him to drink vodka with them. My dad refused. All of a sudden the instructor was so pissed, he started insulting Islam. My dad remained silent. Then as a punishment, he ordered dad to break a block of brick with his bare feet. My dad went ahead without hesitation, broke his leg and remained grounded for a month.

That's how it used to be in the old days. You don't protest injustice. Your superiors are next to God in the military.

The standard means of protesting is a coup d'état, in extreme cases, and that's usually done to topple governments.

The way this obscure Major Zia is protesting, it reminds me of what my dad told me often, "most officers presently serving in the military, unlike those commissioned during the 70s and 80s, are weak, mellow, try to reason with superiors, lack a commanding attitude and can't even salute with a straight backbone." It's most probably because of politicization of the armed forces. I do agree with him.

If this pus*y Major thinks it's that serious and poses a serious threat to national security (haha.. I really doubt that), a coup d'etat has no alternative. A single officer can mobilize a powerful force by convincing his colleagues at key positions.

But professional officers do not approach media or civilians. At this rate, this guy deserves being court-martialed. And if you didn't know, the most common punishment is death by firing squad.
 
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Faarhan, you're one of the more likeable characters here (not in a gay sense :D) and don't want to cross swords with you.

In my family and among my close relatives, almost everyone is either 1) serving in the armed forces, 2) serving in the civil service administration or 3) are businesspeople. So you'd guess I know how things work within the armed forces. Heck, my dad was a senior commander under late General Zia during the liberation war and his BAF batch was the first group of GD(P) in the newly born BAF.

I'll tell you a little story I heard from my dad.

While he was undergoing training in the erstwhile USSR as a teenage cadet, one of his instructor offered him to drink vodka with them. My dad refused. All of a sudden the instructor was so pissed, he started insulting Islam. My dad remained silent. Then as a punishment, he ordered dad to break a block of brick with his bare feet. My dad went ahead without hesitation, broke his leg and remained grounded for a month.

That's how it used to be in the old days. You don't protest injustice. Your superiors are next to God in the military.

The standard means of protesting is a coup d'état, in extreme cases, and that's usually done to topple governments.

The way this obscure Major Zia is protesting, it reminds me of what my dad told me often, "most officers presently serving in the military, unlike those commissioned during the 70s and 80s, are weak, mellow, try to reason with superiors, lack a commanding attitude and can't even salute with a straight backbone." It's most probably because of politicization of the armed forces. I do agree with him.

If this pus*y Major thinks it's that serious and poses a serious threat to national security (haha.. I really doubt that), a coup d'etat has no alternative. A single officer can mobilize a powerful force by convincing his colleagues at key positions.

But professional officers do not approach media or civilians. At this rate, this guy deserves being court-martialed. And if you didn't know, the most common punishment is death by firing squad.

I guess we have only your word to go on. Not sure how reliable that is though.
 
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I guess we have only your word to go on. Not sure how reliable that is though.

Furthermore, as soon as ISPR and DFGI giving credibility to the Major Ziaul Haque incident, story of uncle, brother and father are popping up. Guess what? Relatives story to draw emotional acceptance does not have any credibility, nada zip. Newspaper query and subsequent ISPR and DGFI validation by trying to prevent the report trumped all RAW lovers who had been abusing this thread.
 
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There are only two possibilities.

1) There is no Major Zia and someone is spreading rumours in his fictitious name.

2) If there is one Major Zia, who really exists and is now sending emails here and there, then he must be a fanatic person. His true character is now known to DGFI. He probably fled when he was called by DGFI. Now, he is pretending his innocence and is sending emails to people pretending his innocence and blaming a teaming up of DGFI and Indian RAW. His only aim, in this way, is to get enough support for his fanatic cause in the army.


If this major Zia exists, then he is a fanatic, and, therefore, dagerous. So, he must be tracked down and shot at the firing squad. I think, this possibility has aroused the sentiment of PDF's Bangladeshi fanatics. They are crying in unison and are fingerpointing at RAW, RAW and RAW. These fanatics are ridiculous. BD must get rid of them.
 
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Furthermore, as soon as ISPR and DFGI giving credibility to the Major Ziaul Haque incident, story of uncle, brother and father are popping up. Guess what? Relatives story to draw emotional acceptance does not have any credibility, nada zip. Newspaper query and subsequent ISPR and DGFI validation by trying to prevent the report trumped all RAW lovers who had been abusing this thread.
Idune Bhai, thanks for pointing out that the usage of Chacha, Mama, Khalu's source to counter legit/logical ones by dubious BDeshi and Bharaties, when they are exhausted with proper means to justify their desired ends. Infect since bastard MUA's illegal take over, such deflectors have been vehemently trying to kill all the threads over here that adheres to fake out of AL and its pseudo dalals, RAW Mo-Fos and Bharati's scheming of enslaving BDians by any means. Such pattern is evident and getting stronger by daily basis.

Their desperation to support AL and MUA's crony's acts along with to hide RAW's dense infiltration in security institutes by applying fuzzy logics, deflection arts, reverse psychology and ridiculousness clearly show that they are fearful of getting caught. You've been pioneering to break them up. And take Lal Salaam for that. May Almighty make you even better of the fighter of our patriotic, humanitarian frontier? Oh! my desire about spanking their azzes are seeing fruitition as mob justice has just took place on a chanakya (An Indian diplomat was injured and hospitalised following an assault by a large group of Chinese traders in a court, as he tried to secure the release of two Indians who were held hostage by locals;
Read more at: Indian diplomat attacked in court by Chinese traders : Asia News - India Today). Seems like God indeed works in a mysterious way.
 
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eastwatch pure lie caught red handed by DGFI and ISPR action. See his post 72 and 83. Now eastwatch gone mad on his exposure. if anyone need to be shoot its people like eastwatch, who cheerlead indian cause and acts against Bangladesh and go crazy when get busted.

Whats next - eastwatch will ask to shoot anyone in PDF speaks against RAW activity in Bangladesh?
 
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পুরো নাম মেজর জিয়াউল হক। সংক্ষেপে ডাকা হয় মেজর জিয়া। ই-মেইল ও ফেসবুকে দেয়া তার জবানবন্দি নিয়ে নানা রহস্য সৃষ্টি হয়েছে। নিজেকে ৪১ বিএমএ লং কোর্সের একজন অফিসার দাবি করে ফেসবুক ও ইন্টারনেটে তার নামে একটি জবানবন্দি প্রকাশ করা হয়েছে। মেজর জিয়ার এ বক্তব্যের রহস্য সম্পর্কে জানার জন্য আমার দেশ-এর পক্ষ থেকে অনুসন্ধান করা হয়। এ নিয়ে আন্তঃবাহিনী জনসংযোগ বিভাগের বক্তব্য কী—জানার জন্য সংস্থার পরিচালকের সঙ্গে একাধিকার যোগাযোগ করা হয়েছে। গতকাল বিকাল ৩টা ৪৭ মিনিটেও ফোন করা হয়েছে আন্তঃবাহিনী জনসংযোগ বিভাগে। বিপরীত দিক থেকে বলা হলো, স্যার মিটিংয়ে আছেন। কখন মিটিং শেষ হবে বলা যাচ্ছে না। একপর্যায়ে কী বিষয়ে ফোন করা হয়েছে, জানতে চাওয়া হয়। ফেসবুকে মেজর জিয়ার বক্তব্য ও ই-মেইল জবানবন্দি প্রসঙ্গে বলা হলে জানানো হয়, এ বিষয়ে এখান থেকে কিছুই বলা যাবে না। এটা নিয়ে সেনা সদর দফতর বা সামরিক গোয়েন্দা পরিদফতর জানাতে পারবে। এ টেলিফোনের আগে বিষয়টি জানতে সরাসরি ক্যান্টনমেন্টে যাওয়ার চেষ্টা করা হয়েছিল।
গেটে বসিয়ে রেখে বলা হয়, সাংবাদিক প্রবেশ নিষেধ। ঊর্ধ্বতন কর্তৃপক্ষের পূর্বানুমতি ছাড়া যাওয়া যাবে না। চেষ্টা করা হয়েছে ফেসবুক জবানবন্দিতে মেজর জিয়াউল হকের দেয়া বাসার ঠিকানায় যাওয়ার; মিরপুর ক্যান্টনমেন্টের ভেতরে পলাশ ভবনের ডি-১৩/১নং ফ্ল্যাট-এর কথা বলা আছে সেখানে। সেখানে যাওয়ার চেষ্টা করা হলে মিরপুর ক্যান্টনমেন্ট গেটে একই কথা বলা হয়, সাংবাদিক প্রবেশে উপরের নিষেধাজ্ঞা রয়েছে।
ফেসবুক বা ই-মেইলে প্রচারিত মেজর জিয়াউল হকের জবানবন্দি অনুযায়ী, তাকে একটি গোয়েন্দা সংস্থার সদস্যরা অপহরণ করেছিল। দুই দিন দুই রাত আটক রাখার পর কৌশলে সেখান থেকে তিনি পালিয়ে আসতে সক্ষম হন। মিলিটারি ইনস্টিটিউট অব সায়েন্স অ্যান্ড টেকনোলজিতে কোর্স শেষে বদলিকৃত রেজিমেন্টে যোগদানে যাওয়ার পথে তিনি অপহৃত হন। ৩ বিআইআরে (বাংলাদেশ ইনফেন্ট্রি রেজিমেন্ট) তাকে বদলি করা হয়েছিল। সেখানে যাওয়ার পথে সাভার বাসস্ট্যান্ড থেকে তাকে তুলে নিয়ে যায় গোয়েন্দা সংস্থার সদস্যরা। তুলে নেয়ার পর অজ্ঞাত স্থানে রেখে চোখ বেঁধে তাকে টানা জিজ্ঞাসাবাদ করা হয়। জবানবন্দিতে প্রকাশিত বর্ণনা অনুযায়ী, বাংলাদেশীদের পাশাপাশি পাশের একটি দেশের গোয়েন্দা সংস্থার সদস্যও ছিল সেখানে। জিজ্ঞাসাবাদের সময় উপস্থিত পাশের রাষ্ট্রের গোয়েন্দা সংস্থার সদস্যরা দোভাষীর মাধ্যমে এমন কিছু তথ্য তার কাছে জানতে চেয়েছে, যা একটি স্বাধীন দেশের নিরাপত্তার জন্য অত্যন্ত সংবেদনশীল।
মেজর জিয়াউল হকের প্রকাশিত জবানবন্দি মতে, তাকে আবারও অপহরণের চেষ্টা করা হচ্ছে। এজন্য এখন আত্মগোপনে রয়েছেন এবং নিরাপদ কোনো স্থানে চলে যেতে চাচ্ছেন। প্রকাশিত জবানবন্দিতে বলা হয়, যারা তাকে অপহরণ করেছিল তারা চায়নি আর চাকরিতে যোগদান করুক। তার এ অপহরণের বিষয়টি সেনাবাহিনীর অনেক অফিসার জেনেও না জানার ভান করছেন। প্রকাশিত জবানবন্দিতে তিনি বলেন, লে. কর্নেল জায়েদী, লে. কর্নেল হাসিন ও লে. কর্নেল এহসান ইউসুফ নামে দেশপ্রেমিক তিন সেনা অফিসারকে গ্রেফতার দেখিয়ে দীর্ঘদিন ধরে বন্দি রাখা হয়েছে। পুরাতন আর্মি হেডকোয়ার্টার মেসে তারা আটক আছেন বলে উল্লেখ করা হয়।
এতে তিনি আরও বলেন, সামরিক গোয়েন্দা বিভাগের কেন্দ্রীয় এবং ৬৪টি জেলাভিত্তিক ফিল্ড অফিসের মেধাবী অফিসারদের ব্যবহার করে আবারও এক-এগারোর মতো আরেকটি পরিস্থিতি সৃষ্টির অপচেষ্টা চলছে। গোয়েন্দা বিভাগের কিছু অফিসার পাশের দেশের একটি গোয়েন্দা সংস্থার সঙ্গে হাত মিলিয়ে কাজ করছে। তার লেখা জবানবন্দি অনুযায়ী, এ পরিকল্পনা বাস্তবায়ন হলে সরকারি ও বিরোধী উভয় দলের বড় ক্ষতি হবে।
সেনা অফিসারদের বিনাবিচারে ক্যান্টনমেন্টের ভেতরে বন্দি করে রাখা প্রসঙ্গে সাবেক সেনা কর্মকর্তা বর্তমানে সুপ্রিম কোর্টে আইন পেশায় নিয়োজিত ব্যারিস্টার সারোয়ার হোসেনের কাছে জানতে চাইলে তিনি আমার দেশ-কে বলেন, ১৫০ দিনের বেশি সময় ধরে লে. কর্নেল পদমর্যাদার দুই অফিসার আটক আছেন বলে তিনিও জানতে পেরেছেন। তিনি বলেন, যতটুকু জানি এদের একজন গত ৯ জুলাই ও আরেকজন ১২ জুলাই কর্মরত অবস্থায় গ্রেফতার হন। তবে তাদের বিরুদ্ধে কোনো বিচার শুরু হয়নি। এ প্রসঙ্গে তিনি বলেন, ১৯৫২ সালের আর্মি অ্যাক্টের ৭৫ ধারা অনুযায়ী, অভিযোগের ভিত্তিতে সেনা অফিসারদের গ্রেফতার করা যায়। এ ধারায়ই বলা আছে, গ্রেফতারের ৮ দিনের ভেতর কোর্ট মার্শাল গঠন করতে হবে। ৮ দিনের মধ্যে কোর্ট মার্শাল গঠন করা সম্ভব না হলে উপযুক্ত কারণ ঊর্ধ্বতন কর্তৃপক্ষকে জানানোর বাধ্যবাধকতা রয়েছে আইনে। তিনি বলেন, আইনেই বলা আছে, যৌক্তিক সময়ের মধ্যে কোর্ট মার্শাল গঠন করতে না পারলে আটক ব্যক্তিদের মুক্ত করে দিতে হবে। ব্যারিস্টার সারোয়ার হোসেন বলেন, ১৫০ দিন পার হয়ে যাওয়ার পরও তাদের বিরুদ্ধে কোর্ট মার্শাল গঠন করা সম্ভব হয়নি। এতে অনুমান করা যায় প্রমাণ করার মতো কোনো অভিযোগ এ অফিসারদের বিরুদ্ধে নেই। প্রমাণের মতো অভিযোগ থাকলে কোর্ট মার্শাল গঠন হয়ে যেত।
এদিকে গত শুক্রবার সেনা গোয়েন্দা সংস্থা ডিজিএফআইয়ের অফিসার পরিচয় দিয়ে দৈনিক আমার দেশ-এর বার্তা সম্পাদককে ফোন করা হয়। তাকে ফোনে বলা হয়, আপনারা সেনাবাহিনীর একটি বিষয় নিয়ে সংবাদ করছেন। সেটা ছাপাবেন না। এটার সঙ্গে রাষ্ট্রীয় নিরাপত্তার বিষয় জড়িত। আমার দেশ থেকে বলা হয়, আমরা এ সম্পর্কে সেনা গোয়েন্দা সংস্থার বক্তব্য চাচ্ছি। বক্তব্য পেলে আমরা রিপোর্টটির সঙ্গে ছাপতে চাই। এতে প্রকৃত ঘটনা সম্পর্কে মানুষ অবহিত হতে পারবে। কিন্তু ওই অফিসার সংবাদটি যাতে ছাপা না হয় সে ব্যাপারেই কয়েকবার ফোন করে বলেন, আপনারা সংবাদটি ছাপবেন না।
 
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Faarhan, you're one of the more likeable characters here (not in a gay sense :D) and don't want to cross swords with you.

In my family and among my close relatives, almost everyone is either 1) serving in the armed forces, 2) serving in the civil service administration or 3) are businesspeople. So you'd guess I know how things work within the armed forces. Heck, my dad was a senior commander under late General Zia during the liberation war and his BAF batch was the first group of GD(P) in the newly born BAF.

I'll tell you a little story I heard from my dad.

While he was undergoing training in the erstwhile USSR as a teenage cadet, one of his instructor offered him to drink vodka with them. My dad refused. All of a sudden the instructor was so pissed, he started insulting Islam. My dad remained silent. Then as a punishment, he ordered dad to break a block of brick with his bare feet. My dad went ahead without hesitation, broke his leg and remained grounded for a month.

That's how it used to be in the old days. You don't protest injustice. Your superiors are next to God in the military.

The standard means of protesting is a coup d'état, in extreme cases, and that's usually done to topple governments.

The way this obscure Major Zia is protesting, it reminds me of what my dad told me often, "most officers presently serving in the military, unlike those commissioned during the 70s and 80s, are weak, mellow, try to reason with superiors, lack a commanding attitude and can't even salute with a straight backbone." It's most probably because of politicization of the armed forces. I do agree with him.

If this pus*y Major thinks it's that serious and poses a serious threat to national security (haha.. I really doubt that), a coup d'etat has no alternative. A single officer can mobilize a powerful force by convincing his colleagues at key positions.

But professional officers do not approach media or civilians. At this rate, this guy deserves being court-martialed. And if you didn't know, the most common punishment is death by firing squad.

well, i always tried to avoid negative conversations with BD members. but in this thread from beginning denial of some people went beyond limit. Major Zia isnt my hero. i was just trying to prove the incident and some member told it fake email, blog, spoof. now it is proved by amardesh i was right.....
 
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well, i always tried to avoid negative conversations with BD members. but in this thread from beginning denial of some people went beyond limit. Major Zia isnt my hero. i was just trying to prove the incident and some member told it fake email, blog, spoof. now it is proved by amardesh i was right.....

Yes you were. And those people with denial got busted when newspaper report posted. Moreover, in show of fundamentalist behavior eastwatch is calling to shoot people. These people claim themselves "secular"?
 
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Faarhan, you're one of the more likeable characters here (not in a gay sense :D) and don't want to cross swords with you.

In my family and among my close relatives, almost everyone is either 1) serving in the armed forces, 2) serving in the civil service administration or 3) are businesspeople. So you'd guess I know how things work within the armed forces. Heck, my dad was a senior commander under late General Zia during the liberation war and his BAF batch was the first group of GD(P) in the newly born BAF.

I'll tell you a little story I heard from my dad.

While he was undergoing training in the erstwhile USSR as a teenage cadet, one of his instructor offered him to drink vodka with them. My dad refused. All of a sudden the instructor was so pissed, he started insulting Islam. My dad remained silent. Then as a punishment, he ordered dad to break a block of brick with his bare feet. My dad went ahead without hesitation, broke his leg and remained grounded for a month.

That's how it used to be in the old days. You don't protest injustice. Your superiors are next to God in the military.

The standard means of protesting is a coup d'état, in extreme cases, and that's usually done to topple governments.

The way this obscure Major Zia is protesting, it reminds me of what my dad told me often, "most officers presently serving in the military, unlike those commissioned during the 70s and 80s, are weak, mellow, try to reason with superiors, lack a commanding attitude and can't even salute with a straight backbone." It's most probably because of politicization of the armed forces. I do agree with him.

If this pus*y Major thinks it's that serious and poses a serious threat to national security (haha.. I really doubt that), a coup d'etat has no alternative. A single officer can mobilize a powerful force by convincing his colleagues at key positions.

But professional officers do not approach media or civilians. At this rate, this guy deserves being court-martialed. And if you didn't know, the most common punishment is death by firing squad.

Um...yeah whatever...

Mine also served in the armed forces ever since the Pakistan-era. So no need to brag.

I can say that there is something fishy going on in our armed forces today. It's not about merely cheap politics that goes on in the army.

Otherwise, Pilkhana would not have happened. I still couldn't believe that some people still consider that incident as insignificant. The entire mutiny itself was highly organized and professional. And yet, no one is bothered to investigate it! I wonder why?

Can you answer that?

And no, Bangladesh Army was never used as a recruitment tool for extremists. Even though America had a hand during the 71' war, they never participated in any anti-American activities whatsoever.

The only ones propagating such crap are Joy and his ilks. I'm still interested in seeing the report complied by Joy and some American chap on the issue.

If you truly care about the honor and integrity of our armed forces, you would at least recognize that the families of the murdered officers deserve to see justice against the perpetrators of Pilkhana. And they are still out there.

They deserve answers, and so do we. Burying the whole issue under the carpet will do no good.

Therefore, the affairs within our armed forces is questionable and raises eyebrows.

Whoever carried out Pilkhana sure left a lot of foot marks on the way.
 
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Um...yeah whatever...

Mine also served in the armed forces ever since the Pakistan-era. So no need to brag.

I can say that there is something fishy going on in our armed forces today. It's not about merely cheap politics that goes on in the army.

Otherwise, Pilkhana would not have happened. I still couldn't believe that some people still consider that incident as insignificant. The entire mutiny itself was highly organized and professional. And yet, no one is bothered to investigate it! I wonder why?

Can you answer that?

And no, Bangladesh Army was never used as a recruitment tool for extremists. Even though America had a hand during the 71' war, they never participated in any anti-American activities whatsoever.

The only ones propagating such crap are Joy and his ilks. I'm still interested in seeing the report complied by Joy and some American chap on the issue.

If you truly care about the honor and integrity of our armed forces, you would at least recognize that the families of the murdered officers deserve to see justice against the perpetrators of Pilkhana. And they are still out there.

They deserve answers, and so do we. Burying the whole issue under the carpet will do no good.

Therefore, the affairs within our armed forces is questionable and raises eyebrows.

Whoever carried out Pilkhana sure left a lot of foot marks on the way.

Response to first bold part: So I assume yours have experienced more than three decades of service and can tell you how officers today are distancing themselves from professional practices. If you read carefully, you'll see how I'm trying to convey disappointment at the way this officer has chosen to protest. Going to media to express dissatisfaction at intelligence activities - so unprofessional!

Response to second bold part: This and the rest of your post is irrelevant to mine.
 
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