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Barkha interviews His Holiness The Dalai Lama in Bodh Gaya

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whatever he said, the next Dalai Lama will be appointed by Chinese gov

See this is the thing.... you cannot be "appointed" a Dalai Lama by a government. You have to be the one for reincarnation.

Your appointed Dalai Lama will only be a state puppet and not accepted by Buddhists.

Götterdämmerung;2489265 said:
The Dalai Lama has many friends in Germany. He is particularly loved by old Nazis and neonazis. Just google Dalai Lama and Nazis and you'll be surprised. :)

The Nazis were not everybody's enemies. As the ruling party of Germany, Dalai Lama visited them just like He would give state visits to every government. One could only cite ones' opinion to Nazis, not impose it on them.

What exactly are you trying to say, Mr. chinese?

Götterdämmerung;2686379 said:
You ask the millions of Hitler's victims!

What have they got to do with HH? :what:
 
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With the slogans like ‘Tibet’s freedom is India’s security’, agathering of around 200 Tibetans living in the North East observed the53rd anniversary of Tibetan Uprising Day here by taking out a procession and candle lightmarch. The gathering, mostly comprising second and third generation of Tibetans in the North Eastern region expressed grave concern over deteriorating situation in Tibet and deep rooted resentment among the Tibetans resulting in self immolation by people due to China’s repressive policies. “More than 10,000 Tibetans live in the North East and most of them have never seen their own country. Since the land of Tibet has beenisolated from the outside world by the Chinese government, through inflicting blockade on media and other major means ofcommunication, the people of Tibet have no other option to vent their ire. So far, 26 Tibetans have torched their bodies protestingChinese oppression and demanding the return of Dalai Lama,” Pema Chophel, vice president of Tibetan Freedom Movement said.
A procession was taken out today from Lakhidhar Bora Kshetra in Guwahati to Chandmari.In the evening, a candle light march was also taken out from Judges’ Field to Dighalipukhuri. The programme was organized by Tibetan Solidarity Committee, North East. The message of Dr Lobsang Sangay, Prime Minister of the Tibetan Government in exile was read out to the gathering by Lhakpa Tsering, Tibetan Welfare Officer, Shillong. “When China invaded Tibet in1949, it promised to usher in a socialist paradise. But in reality, Tibetans are treated as second class citizens on their own land. Tibet has also become one of the most militarized areas in the region,” the message said. Nava Thakuria, secretary of Guwahati Press Club, while expressing solidarity with the freedom struggle of Tibet said that the North Eastern region of India would be benefitted through development and prosperity in Tibet. “Through this event in theheart of Guwahati, the Tibetans of North East have made their presence felt. I earnestly believe that gradually more and more people of the region and the country would associate themselves with the Tibetan cause,”he added.
Senior journalist Rupam Baruah and Jaharlal Saha of Vivekannanda Kalyan Kendra also expressed their solidarity with the Tibet’s freedom movement and exhorted upon the Tibetan population to carry on the peaceful movement. The speech of Tibetan Parliament in exile was also read out on the occasion which urged the United Nations and the international community to support the Tibetan people insecuring their own distinct cultural, spiritual and traditional identity. “TheTibetans living in exile are extremely concerned about the condition in Tibet. We appeal the Indian people and International community to exert pressure on China to end brutalities in Tibet,” Dawa Thakchoe, president of Regional Tibetan Women’s Associationsaid.

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Tibet Was No Shangri-La Under The Rule of the Dalai Lamas; It Was ‘Hell On Earth’ Before Revolution

Tibet was a feudal society before the revolutionary changes that started in 1949. There were two main classes: the serfs and the aristocratic serf owners. The people lived like serfs in Europe’s “Dark Ages,” or like African slaves and sharecroppers of the U.S. South.

Tibetan serfs scratched barley harvest from the hard earth with wooden plows and sickles. Goats, sheep and yaks were raised for milk, butter, cheese and meat. The aristocratic and monastery masters owned the people, the land and most of the animals. They forced the serfs to hand over most grain and demanded all kinds of forced labor (called ulag). Among the serfs, both men and women participated in hard labor, including ulag. The scattered nomadic peoples of Tibet’s barren western highlands were also owned by lords and lamas.

The Dalai Lama’s older brother Thubten Jigme Norbu claims that in the lamaist social order, “There is no class system and the mobility from class to class makes any class prejudice impossible.” But the whole existence of this religious order was based on a rigid and brutal class system.

Serfs were treated like despised “inferiors”–the way Black people were treated in the Jim Crow South. Serfs could not use the same seats, vocabulary or eating utensils as serf owners. Even touching one of the master’s belongings could be punished by whipping. The masters and serfs were so distant from each other that in much of Tibet they spoke different languages.

It was the custom for a serf to kneel on all fours so his master could step on his back to mount a horse. Tibet scholar A. Tom Grunfeld describes how one ruling class girl routinely had servants carry her up and down stairs just because she was lazy. Masters often rode on their serfs’ backs across streams.

The only thing worse than a serf in Tibet was a “chattel slave,” who had no right to even grow a few crops for themselves. These slaves were often starved, beaten and worked to death. A master could turn a serf into a slave any time he wanted. Children were routinely bought and sold in Tibet’s capital, Lhasa. About 5 percent of the Tibetan people were counted as chattel slaves. And at least another 10 percent were poor monks who were really “slaves in robes.”

The lamaist system tried to prevent any escape. Runaway slaves couldn’t just set up free farms in the vast empty lands. Former serfs explained to revolutionary writer Anna Louise Strong that before liberation, “You could not live in Tibet without a master. Anyone might pick you up as an outlaw unless you had a legal owner.”

Born Female–Proof of Past Sins?

The Dalai Lama writes, “In Tibet there was no special discrimination against women.” The Dalai Lama’s authorized biographer Robert Hicks argues that Tibetan women were content with their status and “influenced their husbands.” But in Tibet, being born a woman was considered a punishment for “impious” (sinful) behavior in a previous life. The word for “woman” in old Tibet, kiemen, meant “inferior birth.” Women were told to pray, “May I reject a feminine body and be reborn a male one.”

Lamaist superstition associated women with evil and sin. It was said “among ten women you’ll find nine devils.” Anything women touched was considered tainted–so all kinds of taboos were placed on women. Women were forbidden to handle medicine. Han Suyin reports, “No woman was allowed to touch a lama’s belongings, nor could she raise a wall, or ‘the wall will fall.’… A widow was a despicable being, already a devil. No woman was allowed to use iron instruments or touch iron. Religion forbade her to lift her eyes above the knee of a man, as serfs and slaves were not allowed to life the eyes upon the face of the nobles or great lamas.”

Monks of the major sects of Tibetan Buddhism rejected sexual intimacy (or even contact) with women, as part of their plan to be holy. Before the revolution, no woman had ever set foot in most monasteries or the palaces of the Dalai Lama.

There are reports of women being burned for giving birth to twins and for practicing the pre-Buddhist traditional religion (called Bon). Twins were considered proof that a woman had mated with an evil spirit. The rituals and folk medicine of Bon were considered “witchcraft.” Like in other feudal societies, upperclass women were sold into arranged marriages. Custom allowed a husband to cut off the tip of his wife’s nose if he discovered she had slept with someone else. The patriarchal practices included polygyny, where a wealthy man could have many wives; and polyandry, where in land-poor noble families one woman was forced to be wife to several brothers.

Among the lower classes, family life was similar to slavery in the U.S. South. (See The Life of a Tibetan Slave.) Serfs could not marry or leave the estate without the master’s permission. Masters transferred serfs from one estate to another at will, breaking up serf families forever. Rape of women serfs was common–under the ulag system, a lord could demand “temporary wives.”"

Tibet Was No Shangri-La Under The Rule of the Dalai Lamas; It Was ‘Hell On Earth’ Before Revolution | Dailycensored.com
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Why? I don't see how our spiritual teacher should have issues with you Pakistanis. What is Pakistan's problem with Him?
C'mon think harder.
 
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pakistani guys calling dalai lama ' a threat to the world'...just like a good chamcha..come one china give them 50 more rail coaches..

defence.pk is getting funnier by the day.

btw, the action is in peshawar. you must be more worried about your own 'threats'. RIP to the dead.
 
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The Nazis were not everybody's enemies. As the ruling party of Germany, Dalai Lama visited them just like He would give state visits to every government. One could only cite ones' opinion to Nazis, not impose it on them.

The Dalai Lama never visited Germany during the Nazi era. His tutor was a Nazi from Germany who was searching for the primeval aryan race for the Nazi government and stayed in Lhasa for seven years.

Later on the Dalai Lama not only kept his friendship with Heinrich Harrer, but also became a good friend to Miguel Serrano, the leader of Esoteric Nazism Miguel Serrano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

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Here lies also the connection of Nazism with Hinduism.



What have they got to do with HH? :what:

Ask rubyjackass!
 
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Götterdämmerung;2686379 said:
You ask the millions of Hitler's victims!
Nice try invoking dead people to sling mud at great men.
Götterdämmerung;2687222 said:
The Dalai Lama never visited Germany during the Nazi era. His tutor was a Nazi from Germany who was searching for the primeval aryan race for the Nazi government and stayed in Lhasa for seven years.

Later on the Dalai Lama not only kept his friendship with Heinrich Harrer, but also became a good friend to Miguel Serrano, the leader of Esoteric Nazism Miguel Serrano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

atrimond46a.jpg


Here lies also the connection of Nazism with Hinduism.





Ask rubyjackass!
Did you not read my earlier post or Harrer's wiki page? I repeat Harrer was left alive because the Jews thought he was not involved.

And :lol at the Miguel connection with Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama and Tibetans themselves are not Aryan. Where did you get this gem about Dalai Lama getting tutored by this Nazi guy? And before you man sh*t about it again, according to the same Miguel wiki article you linked, this Miguel guy was going around the world(including India where he met Nehru, Dalai Lama etc) as an embassador for Chile. And he also served in countries where Holocaust denial is a crime(for fcuk's sake he was Chile's ambassador to Romania also. Good luck counting the friends he had among your political leaders). You know what diplomats do, they interact with the people in their posting country. So how is your genius putting up with the fact that this delusional neo-Nazi crazy guy could mingle with people in all those countries?
I will tell you why. It is because there are a million Indians who have epiphanies and God comings in their dreams everyday who think their 'interpretation'(in reality they simply extend an already existing nutjob version of some Swami) of hinduism and Buddhism is the right one. So there will be natural discussion and 'friendship' between all these nutjobs. Thus there were hindu versions of KKKs. All ideologies and religions in this world have their worst exhibits. Maoism has cultural revolution. Islam has 'today'.

But if you go around attributing Miguel's nutjob ideas to every leader he shook hands with, then where can you stop; somewhere the handshakes might have reached you(Voila! you are a neo-nazi). I am not a great fan of hinduism. But you seem to have mistaken the invocation of the Aryan, Buddhist and Hindu symbols by the Nazis with a direct sanction of Nazi ideas from these religions. Let me enlighten you here for a minute.
Unlike your racism infested countries(at least at some time in the past, this was the case), India and probably in general the East did not have this concept of racial superiority(Historically nobody invaded India without local help.there were other criteria for discrimination though). So may be you are disappointed to find that Indians or South Asians are not the same kind of crazy, shallow and dumb to kill a 6 million of their fellowmen(I will give it you; they can be different kid of crazy). Sorry we here don't think your way. Sorry you could not find here the same bloodiness and same bloody dipsh*t racism you found in your West. In fact, the famed neo-nazis who came to India also were disappointed to find that the Nazi racial theory doesn't come from here. How bad for both of your troupes who believed the BS that the Nazi ideas came from India: one band of nazis streaming to India to rediscover the core of Nazi ideas in the birthplace of the very ideas and another band of yous(plural of you), the self proclaimed anti-Nazi protectors of democracy . Both came to the wrong tree: one for inspiration for the evil, another to attack the 'root' of evil. Both are/were p*ssing at the wrong tree. Off India, off Buddhism and off Hinduism please. Stick with your books for your $h!t. Your sh!t has no place here. We have enough in our books.

If you are alarmed about the nazism of Dalai Lama, Hinduism and Buddhism(if you still could not surrender to the fact that these were not the source or propagators of Nazism), then you will commit suicide(you know because you suddenly discovered the world has now a billion and quarter neo-nazis) knowing how a certain Subhash Chandra Bose is honored in India. He was an ally of the Nazis and also the Japanese. Yet he is a hero. If you let off that knuckleheadedness, you will understand why and how.

You may rub anti-Semitism onto Arabs and the Islamic countries. But you will fail if you try to attribute the same to India. Go find another tree.



Götterdämmerung;2489308 said:
Mate, you should understand Lamaism before you say silly stuffs. Lamaism and any kind of theocracy is a threat to demacracy.
The post of Dalai Lama is no longer a political post. The Tibetan government has a young and enthusiatic elected Prime Minister now who is feared by the Chinese administration even more than they hate Dalai Lama. Not because he has the power to send a missile to China. But because he asks his people to use the most powerful weapon on the occupiers: persistence.


PS: When I say Indians in this post, it refers to the subcontinent. Most comments on racial ambivalence apply to entire South Asia.
 
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Nice try invoking dead people to sling mud at great men.

Did you not read my earlier post or Harrer's wiki page? I repeat Harrer was left alive because the Jews thought he was not involved.

And :lol at the Miguel connection with Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama and Tibetans themselves are not Aryan. Where did you get this gem about Dalai Lama getting tutored by this Nazi guy? And before you man sh*t about it again, according to the same Miguel wiki article you linked, this Miguel guy was going around the world(including India where he met Nehru, Dalai Lama etc) as an embassador for Chile. And he also served in countries where Holocaust denial is a crime(for fcuk's sake he was Chile's ambassador to Romania also. Good luck counting the friends he had among your political leaders). You know what diplomats do, they interact with the people in their posting country. So how is your genius putting up with the fact that this delusional neo-Nazi crazy guy could mingle with people in all those countries?
I will tell you why. It is because there are a million Indians who have epiphanies and God comings in their dreams everyday who think their 'interpretation'(in reality they simply extend an already existing nutjob version of some Swami) of hinduism and Buddhism is the right one. So there will be natural discussion and 'friendship' between all these nutjobs. Thus there were hindu versions of KKKs. All ideologies and religions in this world have their worst exhibits. Maoism has cultural revolution. Islam has 'today'.

But if you go around attributing Miguel's nutjob ideas to every leader he shook hands with, then where can you stop; somewhere the handshakes might have reached you(Voila! you are a neo-nazi). I am not a great fan of hinduism. But you seem to have mistaken the invocation of the Aryan, Buddhist and Hindu symbols by the Nazis with a direct sanction of Nazi ideas from these religions. Let me enlighten you here for a minute.
Unlike your racism infested countries(at least at some time in the past, this was the case), India and probably in general the East did not have this concept of racial superiority(Historically nobody invaded India without local help.there were other criteria for discrimination though). So may be you are disappointed to find that Indians or South Asians are not the same kind of crazy, shallow and dumb to kill a 6 million of their fellowmen(I will give it you; they can be different kid of crazy). Sorry we here don't think your way. Sorry you could not find here the same bloodiness and same bloody dipsh*t racism you found in your West. In fact, the famed neo-nazis who came to India also were disappointed to find that the Nazi racial theory doesn't come from here. How bad for both of your troupes who believed the BS that the Nazi ideas came from India: one band of nazis streaming to India to rediscover the core of Nazi ideas in the birthplace of the very ideas and another band of yous(plural of you), the self proclaimed anti-Nazi protectors of democracy . Both came to the wrong tree: one for inspiration for the evil, another to attack the 'root' of evil. Both are/were p*ssing at the wrong tree. Off India, off Buddhism and off Hinduism please. Stick with your books for your $h!t. Your sh!t has no place here. We have enough in our books.

If you are alarmed about the nazism of Dalai Lama, Hinduism and Buddhism(if you still could not surrender to the fact that these were not the source or propagators of Nazism), then you will commit suicide(you know because you suddenly discovered the world has now a billion and quarter neo-nazis) knowing how a certain Subhash Chandra Bose is honored in India. He was an ally of the Nazis and also the Japanese. Yet he is a hero. If you let off that knuckleheadedness, you will understand why and how.

You may rub anti-Semitism onto Arabs and the Islamic countries. But you will fail if you try to attribute the same to India. Go find another tree.




The post of Dalai Lama is no longer a political post. The Tibetan government has a young and enthusiatic elected Prime Minister now who is feared by the Chinese administration even more than they hate Dalai Lama. Not because he has the power to send a missile to China. But because he asks his people to use the most powerful weapon on the occupiers: persistence.


PS: When I say Indians in this post, it refers to the subcontinent. Most comments on racial ambivalence apply to entire South Asia.

It was the Dalai Lama himself who said that Heinrich Harrer, Bruno Berger, Miguel Serrano and Shoko Asahara are his friends. It also doesn't matter whether Harrer killed Jews or not, but it matters that he denied to have been a member of the NSDAP until facts were presented in 1997. He was a SS-Oberscharführer and not just a simple member and was Dalai Lama's tutor when he stayed seven years in Lhasa.

From the German Wiki:
Als sich 1997 herausstellte, dass Harrer 1938 SS- und NSDAP-Mitglied geworden war, wurde er kritisiert, weil er diese Fakten niemals öffentlich thematisiert habe. Nach seinen Angaben im handschriftlichen Antrag auf Heiratserlaubnis an das SS-Rasse- und Siedlungshauptamt (RuSHA, 1938) in Berlin hätte er sogar seit 1933 der SA angehört, was er 1997 in einem Interview allerdings für eine aus den damaligen Umständen erklärbare Angeberei erklärte. Insbesondere wurde Harrer der Vorwurf gemacht, er habe sich und seine bergsteigerischen Leistungen seinerzeit im Rahmen seiner Aktivitäten in der Deutschen Himalaya-Stiftung für die NS-Propaganda einspannen lassen und als Bestseller-Autor nie den Versuch einer umfassenden Aufarbeitung gemacht. Speziell ist in seiner 80 Seiten umfassenden Akte der SS-Zentralverwaltung dokumentiert, dass sich Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler die Hochzeit Harrers mit Lotte Wegener persönlich gewünscht habe.
 
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