Barak-8 is India's answer to Pakistan's Harpoon Anti-Ship Missile

[Blue Marlin]

Barak 1 is enough for old subsonic harpoon/exocet.Barak-8 is for supersonic sea skimmers - harpoon is not a threat at all.

well your right to an extent. firstly you need to remember that subsonic anti ship missiles are made to disable ships, not sink them. also you need to take into consideration of detecting the missile then launch the barak 1 to counter the missile. also the angle of intercept is very important as head on interceptions are near impossible to intercept. where as a side intercept will result in more chance of an intercept. but this is too unlikly as the missile would move head on to the target.
the only way i can see a barak1 be good enough is when you detect it at long range and when its not sea skimming or loitering at a wide angle.

 

[Basel]

This type of system not only provides protection against the supersonic cruise missile, but also can be used to destroy the source of the thread aka fighter plane or bomber itself over a long distance.
So good news is that if not all threats could be destroyed, other than spoofed, fooled, jammed, hacked, but if destroyed the main source of the delivery tool, you destroy the threat completely.

How far Barack-8 can engage a fighter?? Because now PAF can launch AShMs from 250km range with variety and ease.

Also YJ-18 is designed to defeat US Agis system that means it can handle threats posed by interceptor missiles.

 

[GURU DUTT]

How far Barack-8 can engage a fighter?? Because now PAF can launch AShMs from 250km range with variety and ease.

Also YJ-18 is designed to defeat US Agis system that means it can handle threats posed by interceptor missiles.

but do you know that your fighter has to come almost 100KM near to the target ship to guide that missile in its terminal phase which incidentlli is very well withing barak-8 range for that kind of target

 

[Basel]

but do you know that your fighter has to come almost 100KM near to the target ship to guide that missile in its terminal phase which incidentlli is very well withing barak-8 range for that kind of target

Now "yes" in future "no" because this aspect is carefully looked and work is under progress, other PN assets can provide targeting data even now, AWACS can be used to launch missile from standoff range as missile also have GPS/Beiduo guidance capability. Own seeker only comes into play when target is in its range.

 

[Blue Marlin]

but do you know that your fighter has to come almost 100KM near to the target ship to guide that missile in its terminal phase which incidentlli is very well withing barak-8 range for that kind of target

not nessacarily. they can use the beidu gps sysem to detect the target and jets would only need to be far enough so that its over the horizon[200km] and then fire the missle. which would most probably be the c-802 as the haroon is for the p-3 and the exocet is for the a90b subs. there are older harpoons but they will be a last resort as the c-802 is more advanced.
common sense pal.

also you always use this gif do you like tea or somthing?

 

[zebra7]

Also YJ-18 is designed to defeat US Agis system that means it can handle threats posed by interceptor missiles.

Pls provide the source, that it can defeat the US Aegis system. Second provide me the source that YJ-18 is ready and inducted and is available for PN or PAF.

How far Barack-8 can engage a fighter?? Because now PAF can launch AShMs from 250km range with variety and ease.

AShMs whose max range is 250 KM is the maximum range of the ASHMs (don't know which one but let CMXX) is the range when its been launch from the fighter plane from high altitude and flying toward the target direction at high speed and flying at the best altitude which give him the max range say around 30,000 feet above sea level.

Now first case where the cruise speed of the missile is Subsonic and its only supersonic or hypersonic speed during the terminal stage Aka around 30 KM. The Missile fly in the sea skirmishing mode otherwise to hide his flight profile, because a slow flying subsonic cruise missile could be countered with the fighter plane or Sea Helicopter armed with A2A missile. after reaching close to the target the missile rose to the high altitude to get the clear picture of the target, for the final correction, at that time Barak will intercept the cruise missile. But when the cruise missile takes the sea skimish profile the range would be very less than the 250 KM, say around <100 km

Second Case when the cruise missile maintain the supersonic, or hypersonic speed throughout the flight profile, In that case the Barak 8 would try to target the missile only.

 

[Windjammer]

CM400AKG Hypersonic Aircraft Carrier Killer.....speed Mach-4+

Barak-8 .....Mach-2......Easy Math.

 

[zebra7]

not nessacarily. they can use the beidu gps sysem to detect the target and jets would only need to be far enough so that its over the horizon[200km] and then fire the missle. which would most probably be the c-802 as the haroon is for the p-3 and the exocet is for the a90b subs. there are older harpoons but they will be a last resort as the c-802 is more advanced.
common sense pal.

Beidu Gps is the global positional satellite, so how could it detect the target, could you explain me.

 

[Basel]

not nessacarily. they can use the beidu gps sysem to detect the target and jets would only need to be far enough so that its over the horizon[200km] and then fire the missle. which would most probably be the c-802 as the haroon is for the p-3 and the exocet is for the a90b subs. there are older harpoons but they will be a last resort as the c-802 is more advanced.
common sense pal.

also you always use this gif do you like tea or somthing?

You are right, but PN have block-2 harpoons too and P-3s can carry those, also C-802s are not only AShM PAF have, you are forgetting CM-400AKG (240 km range) and Ra' ad (ALCM with AShM capability and 350km range) having stealthy features.

 

[zebra7]

CM400AKG Hypersonic Aircraft Carrier Killer.....speed Mach-4+

Barak-8 .....Mach-2......Easy Math.

Jammer Bhaiya pls give the maths of the range in the Sea also. Do you know that CN400AKG is subsonic, and is hypersonic only during the terminal stage.

 

[Basel]

Beidu Gps is the global positional satellite, so how could it detect the target, could you explain me.

He means many systems working together can paint a picture for missile to get close to target with out using its seeker, for example SATs, UAVS, AWACS, MPAs etc. Working together.

Edit.

This baby is underrated for good, but it will be very potent against IN.

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RAWALPINDI: Pakistan on Monday conducted a successful flight test of the indigenously developed Air Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM) “Ra’ad”, said an Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) press release.

The Ra’ad missile, with a range of 350 km, enables Pakistan to achieve 'strategic standoff capability' on land and at sea.

“Cruise Technology” is extremely complex and has been developed by only a few countries in the world. The state of the art Ra’ad Cruise Missile with stealth capabilities is a low altitude, terrain hugging missile with high maneuverability; can deliver nuclear and conventional warheads with pin point accuracy.
Director General Strategic Plans Division, Lieutenant General Zubair Mahmood Hayat, while congratulating the scientists and engineers on achieving yet another milestone of historic significance, termed it a major step towards strengthening Pakistan’s full spectrum credible minimum deterrence capability. Pakistan’s strategic pursuits are aimed at achieving strategic stability in the region, he said.
He appreciated the technical prowess, dedication and commitment of scientists who contributed whole heartedly to make this launch a success.
He showed his full confidence over operational preparedness of strategic forces including employment and deployment concepts, refinement and training of all ranks in operational and technical domains.
The successful launch has been commended by President Mamnoon Hussain and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who have congratulated the scientists and engineers on their outstanding achievement.
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Pakistan conducts flight test of Ra'ad - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[zebra7]

He means many systems working together can paint a picture for missile to get close to target with out using its seeker, for example SATs, UAVS, AWACS, MPAs etc. Working together.

Then ask him does Pakistan have the satellite imaging capability in Real time in the Western Indian Ocean, if provided by China. Have you read my earlier post.

 

[Basel]

Then ask him does Pakistan have the satellite imaging capability in Real time in the Western Indian Ocean, if provided by China. Have you read my earlier post.

Friendly nations are providing required SAT capabilities till we have our own.

 

[zebra7]

He means many systems working together can paint a picture for missile to get close to target with out using its seeker, for example SATs, UAVS, AWACS, MPAs etc. Working together.

Edit.

This baby is underrated for good, but it will be very potent against IN.

Quote:

RAWALPINDI: Pakistan on Monday conducted a successful flight test of the indigenously developed Air Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM) “Ra’ad”, said an Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) press release.

The Ra’ad missile, with a range of 350 km, enables Pakistan to achieve 'strategic standoff capability' on land and at sea.

“Cruise Technology” is extremely complex and has been developed by only a few countries in the world. The state of the art Ra’ad Cruise Missile with stealth capabilities is a low altitude, terrain hugging missile with high maneuverability; can deliver nuclear and conventional warheads with pin point accuracy.
Director General Strategic Plans Division, Lieutenant General Zubair Mahmood Hayat, while congratulating the scientists and engineers on achieving yet another milestone of historic significance, termed it a major step towards strengthening Pakistan’s full spectrum credible minimum deterrence capability. Pakistan’s strategic pursuits are aimed at achieving strategic stability in the region, he said.
He appreciated the technical prowess, dedication and commitment of scientists who contributed whole heartedly to make this launch a success.
He showed his full confidence over operational preparedness of strategic forces including employment and deployment concepts, refinement and training of all ranks in operational and technical domains.
The successful launch has been commended by President Mamnoon Hussain and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who have congratulated the scientists and engineers on their outstanding achievement.
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Pakistan conducts flight test of Ra'ad - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Could you clear my doubt on the Ra'ad that whether it could target the movable target and not the stationary target.

Friendly nations are providing required SAT capabilities till we have our own.

Satellite should be positioned in the sea around Pakistan but the friendly nation satellite is watching Yellow Sea, and the sea around China. Does they have launched some satellite for Pakistan to show courtesy of friendship

 

[rational]

Jammer Bhaiya pls give the maths of the range in the Sea also. Do you know that CN400AKG is subsonic, and is hypersonic only during the terminal stage.

CM 400 is not a risk ,barak 8 is developed to counter much more sophisticated threats & its speed is mach 4+ not 2 ,Barak 8 land version would be a serious threat to their air force ,even there latest f 16 have no defense against it