Article 4 says, "affecting the interest of both states". How did this stop Bangladesh from pursuing her own foreign policy?
This is what article 4 says:
“Article 4: Both the nations will hold regular meetings with each other at all levels to discuss major international issues for mutual benefit.”
Now the question is why the hell do we need to consult India in major international issues. IS our national interest always meant to coincide according to Indian logic? What kind of liberation are we talking about here. India and Indira wanted us to be like Bhutan and we were worse than Bhutan till 75. Its wasn’t liberation but occupation by India. We were simply a pawn of fulfilling Indian strategic goals.
( Might I add too, these are the reasons why I don’t support 71. I don’t believe in ethnic nationalism but muslim unity. Even if U call be jamati/razakar etc, I am 22 btw. People who fought in libetation war also grew hatred for India primarily for these reasons. Don’t at all think that after 71 bangladeshis regardless of political ideology saw India as a liberator.)
India was already socialist back then. So it was not just to Bangladesh, but even to the US that our economy was closed. We even threw Coca cola out.
“Article 5: Both the nations will cooperate with each other in the fields of trade, transport and communications on the basis of equality, mutual benefit and the most favored nation principle.”
We are talking about a country that was litterally a bottom less basket case and was starting from scratch. And U are talking about allowing a country the size of India in military, economic & political terms, a free ride in BD market in 71.We didn’t have a $hit to export then. Pulling off example Of US is even more hilarious and proves the level of irrationalism U guys have. India wanted us to be economically totally dependent on them. We can see the plight of Bhutanese and nepalis who need to import even soaps from India while Bhutan can't even persecute an criminal Indian truck driver in fear of consequences.
That is article 8. That article was binding on India too. It does not talk about war between India and Bangladesh. Why would you want war with India in the first place? Thats whythe treaty was signed in the first place to promote peace and cooperation? I dont get you. You mean that India should allow Bangladesh to seek "outside help", TO FIGHT INDIA!!!! and the fact that this clause prevented that is UNREASONABLE?!!
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Article 8: None of the nations will ever enter into a military alliance against each other and will refrain from allowing a third party from using their soil for military purposes that could constitute a threat to national security of either nations. “
When did I say BD wanted war with India? Tell me this , why would India need BD’s alliance in fending for her national security? Why a military alliance? India didn’t even wanted us to have a military as I pointed out before. India wanted to have a BD military that was under her wimp and as an extension of Indian army. Bhutan is again a perfect example of that. They are totally dependent on India for training and virtually commanded by IA eastern command. India wanted something like that for BD. We were just a strategic hedge for India against china and NE freedom fighters/insurgents/terrorist(whatever u may call them)
And NO this article wasn’t binding to India practically, as India being a far stronger power need not abide by it if she felt it was necessary & and U guys broke the agreement first by backing the shanti Bahini insurgents in CHT. The article doesn’t allow to give shelter to 3rd party which also includes separatist insurgents of BD.
This is an accusation by Bangladesh. Where is the proof?
Lol. Did U checked out the links I gave U.
Its your own writers and journalist wrote books admitting it. I gave articles from New York times that quoted statements from chakma insurgents. Also not to forget another BD insurgent group , Bongo Bhumi insurgents used to bring out open demonstration in the streets of Kolkata which your Indira defended under the excuse of freedom of speech and Indian democracy. And do U want to tell me that your RAW don’t support terrorist & insurgents? Is the answer is yes, then there is no point arguing.
That is article 10. This is totally reasonable. What if BD went and signed a defense deal with China? Even so I guess a lot of your weapons is from China. BTW, if you found this offensive, why did you sign it?
“Article 10: Each of the parties solemnly declare that it shall not undertake any commitment, secret or open, towards one or more states which may be incompatible with the present treaty”
Ok SO BD can’t sign treaties as it sees fit to its national interest just because India wishes it to be a vassal state.
You guys being far stronger don’t even need to sign such unequal treaties with any nation for national security in the first place and thus this clause is irrelevant to Indian perspective but does the same applies to BD?
And what if BD singed a defence deal with china. What’s the meaning of liberation to U? How is this clause even reasonable? U want us to be your vassal and then be grateful to U? really funny. As for why we singed it, it was forced down the throat of BD and the regime that singed wasn’t democratic either. U took advantage of BD’s vulnerability and a puppet regime to make us a vassal.
And note, this treaty was for 25 years i.e till 1996 and Indira broke many articles of the treaty way before 75 and later. After 75 era, with the grace of Allah(swt) we made good strides & established relations with intl. community. China and ME recognized us and supported the buildup of our army. And huge development funds started to pour in. SO U can not expect us to officially stick to every inch of an unequal treaty forced down upon us. And we only singed a decent military partnership with china in 2003 only which we have a right to. Or is it that U consider BD your personal property.,
And after 96 when the treaty officially ended, BAL dalals who were in power couldn’t renew it as we had democratic constitution back then unlike 1972. Democracy don’t allow balant interference by forgien powers but the agreements that were singed or agreed opon by BAL dalals since 2008 were not fully presented in parliament as per constitution. Why the hide and seak if it isn’t against BD’s interest?
Source for this? Although this is infringing upon BD's sovereignty, why did you guys agree? Because you had to get freedom and only India could help. Anyway, I dont think this is the case with BD today, so I see no issues why you have a problem about THIS with India TODAY.
This points were officially framed into the 25 year so called friendship treaty as I pointed out earlier. And as for freedom I pointed out above that these are the same reasons why even freedom fighters were fed up with India after 71. Those who bought about changes in 75 were all renowned freedom fighters not “extremist or razakars”. And agreeing to all those conditions make freedom and independence worthless any way. These agreements shows what India really wanted and wants to do with BD and its intervention in 71 was just for her own strategic interest. Former Indian foreign secretary Jyotindra Nath Dixit said, "We helped in the liberation of Bangladesh in mutual interest, it was not a favor," and a senior RAW intelligence officer said, "Bangladesh was the result of a 10 year long promotion of dissatisfaction against the rulers of Pakistan" (RAW: Top-Secret Failures, p: 5 ).
I dont think this is the case with BD today, so I see no issues why you have a problem about THIS with India TODAY.
IS that so? Why did you interfered in 2008 election? Why all the propaganda by your saffron journalist? Why scream out loud about political changes in BD? What does it matter to GOI is BAL doesn’t come to power if you guys are saint regional hegemonist and don’t interfere? What are external intelligence agency like RAW for?
This is an unfair accusation. Failure of Mujib was not India's doing. It was his doing. HE was inefficient. BTW read that article. It was Mujib's mistake that he treated the army officers bad and then it was they that committed the crimes. Infact those Rakhi Bahini dudes were actually ANTI-INDIA, so saying that India actually favored them is an absolute lie. Plus those guys supported religious extremism, what do you know.
Rakhi bahini was anti-india?
can’t believe U said that. Proves that U guys know jack about BD and are intentionally ignorant. Rakhi bahini was there for replacing the BD army and was better armed and trained than BD army and its only purpose was to protect the Indian backed regime. Rakhi bahini’s atrocities are very well documented and not even today’s BAL clowns will deny those atrocities. Not even your gov will deny such established facts. Knowing nothing about BD and then questioning such untenable facts. Delusions and denial have limits that you & your gov always cross.
I dont think that was a bad move by India at all. Apart from the fact that they intervened in BD. But for our national security, anti-India forces have to be eliminated. That is something that was pulling you guys down too.
Thanks for admitting GOI balant interference rather beating around the bush like most of your intentional ignorant irrational arrogant countrymen.
SO now tell me why the hell we should be grateful to India? Why shouldn’t we have hatred and suspicion towards India? U openly call for interference than ask why we hate India? Who are U to decide what was holding us down or not? If this post of yours isn’t trolling than what is?
I agree there are corrupt border forces.
Corrupt and animalistic mentality border forces. Not to forget pilkhana massacre which U skipped. U kill “smugglers” , a term that Is a misnomer in this case. Your BSF takes bribes but don’t kill a single Indian smugglers when they come with their cattles at the border. And what about illegal smuggling.
I call bull on that one. Extremism from Bangladesh is very much real. Harkatul Jihad-al Islami is one such group.
Extremism is real according to your GOI and saffron colored clown journalist. Not a single intl. Organization or media outlet ever farted crap about extremism in BD but only the Indian media is obsessed with it. Whenever any non-indian papers raise Q/A of extremism in BD they quote Indian officials and journalist. What do they know other than farting crap & propaganda to suit their agenda. There is simply no evidence about extremism in BD apart from Indian propaganda farts. The only terrorist extremist org. that actually caused havoc in BD was JMB that gathered strength during Awami period in 96. All of their leaders were captured & tried in civil court during BNP and JI period in 2005. All of their leaders were hanged in 2007 and BD was praised internationally for this. There are claims that India backed JMB, though there is lack of evidence.
I guess after all it comes down to this. India has a few mistakes on its sides, but not EVERYTHING.
U skipped pilkhana massacre and not to forget constant water terrorism and begging for free corridor.
And after your own admittance of Indian interference , if U consider these few mistakes , then don’t ask again why Bangladeshis have animosities/hate/suspicion towards India .
You have simply been brainwashed to believe that all of this is India's doing.
Is your country some sort of angel ,free from faults that U need to be brainwashed to hate and oppose it? What kind of crooked up logic is that? Are U guys savior of world or something that people will come up with brainwashing to prove U wrong? Free from all sorts of faults & impurity, angelic super power India can never do anything wrong eh?
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I don’t blame India for everything as being a regional hegemonist its in her character to poke noses in her neighbors affairs & U yourself admitted that. But hatred for India will be there for these reasons. U can’t expect people to love someone who tires to rob them in broad daylight. We are cursed with traitorous mirjafars and dalals in our country and India is naturally taking advantage of that , nothing more nothing less. My question is why the hell do U expect us to adore and love U? Forget religion, even in nationalistic and material interest , why the hell should we love/ be grateful to another forgien country? Does it make sense in any sort of bilateral relations?
