Bangladeshi Hypocrisy on Rohingya issue

[Loafer]

While Bangladesh cry and mourn for Rohingyas, they themselves are responsible for committing a genocide against Non Muslim Minority community.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/groups/w...violence-and-brutality-chittagong-hill-tracts

When you think of Bangladesh you may think of a vibrant nation of teeming people in the Ganges delta. The Chittagong Hill Tracts are altogether different: impossibly green, forested mountains rise above lakes in a verdant, uncrowded land – a side of Bangladesh most people never see. This is hardly surprising: since March 2015, access to outsiders is tightly controlled and the indigenous people are forbidden to speak to foreigners without supervision.

The Chittagong Hill Tracts in Bangladesh have been affected by what has been described as “genocide” or “ethnic cleansing” for many years. In the 1960s and 1970s, thousands were forced off their lands to make way for reservoirs and hydroelectric schemes, a displacement made worse by massacres against the Jumma people (the collective name for all indigenous peoples in the region), and nearly twenty years of conflict against a military dictatorship and also with the democratic government of Bangladesh. This only ended in 1997 when a peace accord recognised the rights of the Jumma people over their lands. This accord remains largely unimplemented and the Jumma people are not even acknowledged in the Bangladesh constitution.

 

[Nexus]

i dont give a dam as long as they kill their own people. my primary concern is where we are going to dump those 40,000 Rohigya?s

 

[24 Hours]

While Bangladesh cry and mourn for Rohingyas, they themselves are responsible for committing a genocide against Non Muslim Minority community.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/groups/w...violence-and-brutality-chittagong-hill-tracts

When you think of Bangladesh you may think of a vibrant nation of teeming people in the Ganges delta. The Chittagong Hill Tracts are altogether different: impossibly green, forested mountains rise above lakes in a verdant, uncrowded land – a side of Bangladesh most people never see. This is hardly surprising: since March 2015, access to outsiders is tightly controlled and the indigenous people are forbidden to speak to foreigners without supervision.

The Chittagong Hill Tracts in Bangladesh have been affected by what has been described as “genocide” or “ethnic cleansing” for many years. In the 1960s and 1970s, thousands were forced off their lands to make way for reservoirs and hydroelectric schemes, a displacement made worse by massacres against the Jumma people (the collective name for all indigenous peoples in the region), and nearly twenty years of conflict against a military dictatorship and also with the democratic government of Bangladesh. This only ended in 1997 when a peace accord recognised the rights of the Jumma people over their lands. This accord remains largely unimplemented and the Jumma people are not even acknowledged in the Bangladesh constitution.

Genocide is an extreme exaggeration. They still have citizenship. Many choose to leave the CHT region for better economic opportunities in the cities. Though there have been incidents in the past their situation has generally improved now.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Establishing armed groups out of military and police force and trying to create chaos is works of terrorist and insurgents, army went in to stabilise the region and stabilise it did. They signed the peace treaty and now are living in peace, they're automatically also entitled to citizenship. So the irony is calling it a genocide when you're from a country that committed Hyderabad massacres which is internationally recognised.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Burma is doing exactly what Sri Lanka did when they were fighting LTTE but then Bangladesh/Pakistan all were with Sri Lanka. Now that the sufferers are Muslims suddenly Burma becomes a monster.

 

[Super Falcon]

i dont give a dam as long as they kill their own people. my primary concern is where we are going to dump those 40,000 Rohigya?s

Why don't we dump u and save those 40000 rohingyas how about that

 

[M.R.9]

We are ready to accept them. But the fact is Arakan is rohingys state. They are living their for thousends years. So why we should let them come? There are two ways
1- They will call independence
2- We will liberate Myanmar .

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Burma is doing exactly what Sri Lanka did when they were fighting LTTE but then Bangladesh/Pakistan all were with Sri Lanka. Now that the sufferers are Muslims suddenly Burma becomes a monster.

Here are a few differences, dear dirty hindutva clown;

Tamils of SL were never denied citizenship nor persecuted like Rohingya since independence of burma.

Rohingya didnt form terrorist groups like Indian support LTTE, which introduced suicide bombing to the world and persecuted even SL muslims and moors .. and wanted a seperate state through terrorism.

Tamils aka LTTE was accused of using human shields and crimes against humanity during SL civil war...Unlike rohingya.


Burma is also expelling hindus and we will soon see you clowns moaning about it.

 

[Nilgiri]

Tamils of SL were never denied citizenship nor persecuted like Rohingya since independence of burma.

Uh actually a good number of them were (denied citizenship). The Kandy plantation tamils for example were looked upon as recent arrivals by newly independent SL (compared to say Jaffna and E. SL Tamils)...and negotiations were done in phases with India for their repatriation back to India (which also happened in the 100,000's range, but not fast enough for the overall situation to deteriorate into civil war for a number of both related and unrelated reasons).

Only with resolution of the civil war did SL make things simple and grant all "recent migrant" Tamils in the central SL with citizenship.

@Gibbs can correct me if I got any of this wrong.

Rohingya didnt form terrorist groups like Indian support LTTE, which introduced suicide bombing to the world and persecuted even SL muslims and moors .. and wanted a seperate state through terrorism.

That phase is commencing right now among the Rohingya. You can ask @Aung Zaya for details.

Fact is Burma was busier dealing with conflicts among other minorities and such to focus in on the Rohingya specifically. As those were resolved (esp by the new political reform and agreements made with the return of Aung San Suu Kyi to effective political power)...the attention turns to the sole lingering issue of Rohingya who Bamar by and large do not recognise (whether right or wrong is another issue) as essentially Burmese people (something they essentially do regarding their other minorities) with the right to citizenship.

Whereas SL the population make up is much more to the point, Sinhalese, Tamils and Moors are the 3 main groups....hence right from the outset of independence of SL, there is an immediate legacy of British Raj era of migration patterns and perceived ethnic unfairness to portend with.

Hence as far as dealing with such an issue, Myanmar is roughly at a stage that SL was before the SL civil war really started....and anyway its doubtful on a proportion level Myanmar will see something like SL did given the % of total Myanmar population that current resident Rohingya make (remember 500,000 - 1 million+ have already left MM) is much much less than what Tamils were/are % wise in SL.

i.e the hypothetical argument that similarly no major civil war would have taken place in SL had the Tamils been around the % rohingya were in MM initially and esp if SL had like dozens of other groups it was in full/semi conflict with for the majority of its independent existence.

Thus how Rohingya shape up long term in form of resistive terrorism in comparison to more simple exodus etc remains to be seen in coming months and years.

Tamils aka LTTE was accused of using human shields and crimes against humanity during SL civil war...Unlike rohingya.

Again stages of conflict and sheer % size of minority are quite different to compare in equivalent way like this. But there are already incidences of both pogroms from Bamar/Arakan side and terrorist reaction movements formed (just like the seeds of what turned into Tamil Tigers)....in fact the ARSA terrorist group reminds me of early pre-Tamil Tiger days when the Tamil militant groups targetted SL Army and police mainly and perceived sinhalese supporters and even tamil collaborators only when they felt they could get away with it (thus more rare). The ratio of this changed as the operational buffers and time wore on though (things coalesced etc)....as it would with Rohingya should they decide to go that route. Elements in BD are effectively in the stage that India was similarly at w.r.t arming and morally supporting the armed groups. This is out of the regional and sadly world play book as far as insurgencies are concerned.....but Myanmar has very strong chance of nipping it relatively in the bud by sheer numbers and resources available in sheer % population terms...and exodus patterns of rohingya so far (given lack of BD geopolitical might and no other real takers to try physically resist MM strategy).

 

[Gibbs]

Uh actually a good number of them were (denied citizenship). The Kandy plantation tamils for example were looked upon as recent arrivals by newly independent SL (compared to say Jaffna and E. SL Tamils)...and negotiations were done in phases with India for their repatriation back to India (which also happened in the 100,000's range, but not fast enough for the overall situation to deteriorate into civil war for a number of both related and unrelated reasons).

Only with resolution of the civil war did SL make things simple and grant all "recent migrant" Tamils in the central SL with citizenship.

@Gibbs can correct me if I got any of this wrong.

Partially yes.. But the Indian origin or plantation Tamil citizenship issue was never the cause for the civil war nor were they part of it at any point of the conflict.. It had to do with nationalism from the Lankan Tamil (Specifically Vellaya caste Jaffna Tamil) Who were citizens with all the rights to begin with and the Sinhalese ruling class of the newly independent island struggle for political supremacy, Jaffna Tamils were opposed to loosing their privileged status during the British governance, A well known strategy of the Brits were to give prominence to the minorities in their colonies to keep the majority in place (divide and rule concept) and the Sinhalese elite who inherited the governance post independence to spread their influence to the masses by enacting popular but misdirected majoritarian policies in an attempt to reestablish the status quo before European colonization

The Indian plantation Tamils had little influence nor the political capability for that struggle, They were ignored by their Lankan Tamil brethren who ironically opposed to be granted citizenship proposed by the Sinhala leadership.. It all came to boil with the Swabasha act that made Sinhala the only official language by replacing English, Tamils known for their stoic Tamil linguistic nationalism reacted strongly with the political backing from Tamil Nadu who themselves were in struggle with the central government over Hindi imposition.. Rest is history

 

[Nexus]

Why don't we dump u and save those 40000 rohingyas how about that

I am not a parkistani.

Thank Bhagwan.

 

[Super Falcon]

I am not a parkistani.

Thank Bhagwan.

Yes and we thank we are not Indian muderers either

 

[Nexus]

Yes and we thank we are not Indian muderers either

Jinnah is the best leader land of saurashtra have ever produced.

 

[Hasan89]

Troll, why do you bring up your stupid thoughts into everything. Long gone the issues there ever was in Chittagong hilltracts.

This is the reply, for those trying to create a thing out of nothing.

Mong Uching Marma from Chittagong hilltract, Bangladesh - Winner of the 1st Bangladeshi Idol contest 2013. And this is what he has to say to you Indiots, haters

 

[HeinzG]

Burma is doing exactly what Sri Lanka did when they were fighting LTTE but then Bangladesh/Pakistan all were with Sri Lanka. Now that the sufferers are Muslims suddenly Burma becomes a monster.

Well we didn't butcher people or never asked them to leave. Many Tamils had left on their own accord to seek asylum from Western countries. They used the human rights violation card to get easy acceptance. It was them that painted Sri Lanka is bad light.