Bangladesh wants China, India to de-escalate situation

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Insha Allah brother for the sake of strategic convergence, Bangladesh and Pakistan will get much closer politically. Pakistan itself is changing, for the better. I am a fan of Imran Khan.

Hasina's personal debt to India is the only thing that is keeping us apart. But that is not the whole story.

I look forward to the day that saner heads prevail in India/Pakistan, and that military de-escalation as well as end of occupation (starting with India as bigger brother) occurs for the betterment of all our citizens in every country.

Ameen, Pakistani people, whole of us, greatly admire and respect BD for its dedication to Islam and betterment of its people.

You are a great example, may Allah swt take you to greater heights in this dunya and akhirat.

I don't expect any change for India, esp with the persecution of Kashmiris and Indian Muslims.

Situation is too far gone for peace and war must settle it once and for all. With China involved, this is the end game.

Pakistanis no longer want peace, we want conquest. Even truce is no longer acceptable, why kick the ball down to our descendants to have this situation repeat.

In sha Allah, Ghazwa Hind is coming, Al Mahdi is coming. We pray to Allah swt to guide us in the best way.

This is truly unfortunate. There are lighter skinned and darker skinned folks in every country. For the record, there are plenty of dark-skinned Pakistanis too (some are my friends in LA, as are dark and light-toned Indians), will you and I call them disrespectful names?

All are deserving of human respect.

This is 2020 - and we live in a different world. This has not dawned on a lot of folks.

He is talking to the Indian trolls. I don't understand why some BD members like that one support Indians so fiercely and wish to antagonize Pakistanis.

Yes, we mention skin color to remind Indians that they are not white Aryans as they believe. That is because it deeply hurts them.

For Pakistanis, personally we don't care much about skin color.

You know that already, have you ever heard any Pakistani in real life say anything to Bengalis about skin color? We are not like that.

I support @Trango Towers and he has every right to answer those Indian Hindu zealots swamping this forum.

 

[Avicenna]

They feel like they can avenge '71 by putting down Pakistan and Pakistanis. Alhamdulilah they are only a minority of BDs.

You will see the same ID again and again.

Check this thread here and how angry they became when I proved that Pakistanis are unlike Indians and similar moreso to Afghans.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/raw-...unt-in-dhaka-modi-media-catches.672278/page-5


These are the people who liked that post by @Homo Sapiens which was deriding Pakistanis for having commonalities with our Western, Southern, and Northern neighbors.

Tell me if they seem familiar.

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BitHeroBD

You conveniently left out one cardinal direction.

Regardless, no one really cares all that much about this argument you are making.

What's more disturbing, and the only reason I am replying, is your tendency to label people as Hindu or question their Islam if it doesn't somehow agree with your distorted perception of reality.

So much so that you felt compelled to list out the likes by individuals on a comment from days prior.

Nice one brother.

In terms of the actual topic of this thread, you can see clearly how most Bangladeshis, at least on PDF feel towards India.

Not many are under the illusion that India is somehow a well wisher for Bangladesh.

I do agree that Bangladesh needs to re-approach with Pakistan in meaningful terms in order to deal with its common threat.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You conveniently left out one cardinal direction.

Regardless, no one really cares all that much about this argument you are making.

What's more disturbing, and the only reason I am replying, is your tendency to label people as Hindu or question their Islam if it doesn't somehow agree with your distorted perception of reality.

So much so that you felt compelled to list out the likes by individuals on a comment from days prior.

Nice one brother.

It is important to know the anti-Pakistan IDs on this forum for future reference.

And yes, there is a deficiency of anyones' Islam (and loyalty to coreligionists) if they support an Islamophobic Non-Muslim country, like India, against a Muslim country.

 

[Avicenna]

It is important to know the anti-Pakistan IDs on this forum for future reference.

And yes, there is a deficiency of anyones' Islam (and loyalty to coreligionists) if they support an Islamophobic Non-Muslim country, like India, against a Muslim country.

You peddle in falsehood.

I declare openly I am pro-Pakistan.

As the history of my posts indicate.

I challenge you to prove otherwise.

Also, who the hell are you to declare a deficiency in anyone's Islam.

If that's your litmus test, then brother apply the same criteria to others in regards to China.

I can understand why some things need to be as they are.

But digest the reality of that rather than pretend otherwise from your high horse.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You peddle in falsehood.

I declare openly I am pro-Pakistani.

As the history of my posts indicate.

I challenge you to prove otherwise.

Also, who the hell are you to declare a deficiency in anyone's Islam.

If that's your litmus test, then brother apply the same criteria to others in regards to China.

I can understand why some things need to be as they are.

But digest the reality of that rather than pretend otherwise from your high horse.

You cannot say one place negative things about Pakistani identity, and then come back and say you are pro-Pakistani some place else.

If you were neutral, then OK, but you are not.

Be consistent.

I don't feel like going back and forth with likes of you or Joe like the thread I linked above.

There is a divide of understanding which Indians and some BDs have about Pakistan and Pakistanis.

Instead of passing moral and value judgements on Pakistanis for our deeply held beliefs, just let it be.

You are not Pakistani, you won't understand the nuances of our culture, heritage, race, and civilization.

 

[Avicenna]

You cannot say one place negative things about Pakistani identity, and then come back and say you are pro-Pakistani some place else.

If you were neutral, then OK, but you are not.

Be consistent.

I don't feel like going back and forth with likes of you or Joe like the thread I linked above.

There is a divide of understanding which Indians and some BDs have about Pakistan and Pakistanis.

Instead of passing moral and value judgements on Pakistanis for our deeply held beliefs, just let it be.

You are not Pakistani, you won't understand the nuances of our culture, heritage, race, and civilization.

I am gonna disengage from this exchange.

Think about what I have written.

Good night.

 

[Bilal9]

Guys lets not divide our unity in the name of minor differences in religious outlook.

Let us respect each other's beliefs and culture in both countries, even if we feel it may be no different than ours.

Respect begets respect, we need unity among Muslims today - not division due to small disagreements, religious or otherwise.

For the record, Bangladesh is a little more liberal and 'laissez-faire' compared to Pakistan in all aspects of religion and culture (I understand largely Sufi in Bangladesh as opposed to largely Shia in Pakistan), but that should not be any reason not to respect each other's values.

 

[Michael Corleone]

They feel like they can avenge '71 by putting down Pakistan and Pakistanis. Alhamdulilah they are only a minority of BDs.

You will see the same ID again and again.

Check this thread here and how angry they became when I proved that Pakistanis are unlike Indians and similar moreso to Afghans.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/raw-...unt-in-dhaka-modi-media-catches.672278/page-5


These are the people who liked that post by @Homo Sapiens which was deriding Pakistanis for having commonalities with our Western, Southern, and Northern neighbors.

Tell me if they seem familiar.

Thanks x 13
Arthur
Axomiya_lora
DalalErMaNodi
Cliftonite
Avicenna
Naofumi
Al-Ansar
Joe Shearer
Atlas
Michael Corleone
Shorisrip
ghost250
BitHeroBD

I wonder how stupid someone has to be to lie through their teeth on the internet

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I am gonna disengage from this exchange.

Think about what I have written.

Good night.

Whenever Pakistanis see any Muslim supporting Indian Hindus, we will always question their loyalty (barring 1971 mess.)

Generally we Pakistanis prefer to be courteous and refrain from discussing the nuances of our culture, but this being PDF, we are quite open with how we feel about India and Indians. You should just get used to that.

I don't have anything against you personally, by the way. I apologize if it came out another way. Ofcourse you are our Muslim brother.

What I meant to say was not to bring in religion when deriding Pakistani identity, esp in favor of Indian Hindu trolls like Joe.

Assalam alaikum. Hope you have a good night.

For the record, Bangladesh is a little more liberal and 'laissez-faire' compared to Pakistan in all aspects of religion and culture (I understand largely Sufi in Bangladesh as opposed to largely Shia in Pakistan), but that should not be any reason not to respect each other's values.

Yep, good post brother.

Pakistan and BD share the same Hanafi Sunni perspective of Islam as Indian Muslim, Turks, Afghans, Tajiks, and Kurds.

Sufism is big in Pakistan too and I think we have a much larger Shia population. Pakistanis are fairly tolerant of Islamic differences.

Our largest Non-Muslim minority are Christians, mostly in Punjab.

 

[Avicenna]

Whenever Pakistanis see any Muslim supporting Indian Hindus, we will always question their loyalty (barring 1971 mess.)

Generally we Pakistanis prefer to be courteous and refrain from discussing the nuances of our culture, but this being PDF, we are quite open with how we feel about India and Indians. You should just get used to that.

I don't have anything against you personally, by the way. I apologize if it came out another way. Ofcourse you are our Muslim brother.

What I meant to say was not to bring in religion when deriding Pakistani identity, esp in favor of Indian Hindu trolls like Joe.

Assalam alaikum. Hope you have a good night.



Yep, good post brother.

Pakistan and BD share the same Hanafi Sunni perspective of Islam as Indian Muslim, Turks, Afghans, Tajiks, and Kurds.

Sufism is big in Pakistan too and I think we have a much larger Shia population. Pakistanis are fairly tolerant of Islamic differences.

Our largest Non-Muslim minority are Christians, mostly in Punjab.

Wa alaykumu salamu wa-raḥmatu llahi wabarakatuh

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Ameen, Pakistani people, whole of us, greatly admire and respect BD for its dedication to Islam and betterment of its people.

You are a great example, may Allah swt take you to greater heights in this dunya and akhirat.

I don't expect any change for India, esp with the persecution of Kashmiris and Indian Muslims.

Situation is too far gone for peace and war must settle it once and for all. With China involved, this is the end game.

Pakistanis no longer want peace, we want conquest. Even truce is no longer acceptable, why kick the ball down to our descendants to have this situation repeat.

In sha Allah, Ghazwa Hind is coming, Al Mahdi is coming. We pray to Allah swt to guide us in the best way.



He is talking to the Indian trolls. I don't understand why some BD members like that one support Indians so fiercely and wish to antagonize Pakistanis.

Yes, we mention skin color to remind Indians that they are not white Aryans as they believe. That is because it deeply hurts them.

For Pakistanis, personally we don't care much about skin color.

You know that already, have you ever heard any Pakistani in real life say anything to Bengalis about skin color? We are not like that.

I support @Trango Towers and he has every right to answer those Indian Hindu zealots swamping this forum.

What are you kidding me ? Every single message of him that I quoted was directed at a Bangladeshi Muslim user. Get out of your hole.

Call this racist out for what he is.

You can read more on the quotes, click on the arrow near the top of the quote where it says the username of the quoted user.


Anti Pakistan this anti Pakistani that, if calling out a racist bigot makes me anti Pakistani then so be it, I know better Pakistanis than those here and they know I don't hate Pakistan, that's all that matters to me.

At least my conscience is clear and despite all this flapping about Allah, you are side stepping all the racist tirades your friend goes on.

God knows that he is racist and me calling him out for what he is, is the right thing to do.


I get banned for calling a racist bigot out then so be it.

Encouraging and supporting a proven racist user is not a nice thing to do.

Open your eyes, stop protecting a racist individual just because he's your countrymen, you're better than that, Pakistanis I know are better than that, I'd like to believe all are like them.

These are Bangladeshi Muslim users he's bad mouthing, he is so disgruntled, he's running his mouth on here and you like his posts?

He openly insulted my grandparent and said that they deserved to be killed. An old man with eye sight issue and an old woman who worked hard in the fields to help her husband and son to struggle through life deserved to be killed ? Shot like dogs.... They weren't Hindus, in case you're wondering, killing Hindus is allowed on this forum.

Are these users Hindus ? That he's bashing them ? As if in some strange twist of morals needlessly bashing each and every Hindu even if they're anti sanghi is allowed.

I rest my case, you can do whatever you like but remember this all this God talk won't save you at the end of the day, turn your words into actions.

Do something God would ask and need you to do, call out those who differentiate between humans just because of their inner spite against a certain language and people.

 

[Avicenna]

What are you kidding me ? Every single message of him that I quoted was directed at a Bangladeshi Muslim user. Get out of your hole.

Call this racist out for what he is.

You can read more on the quotes, click on the arrow near the top of the quote where it says the username of the quoted user.


Anti Pakistan this anti Pakistani that, if calling out a racist bigot makes me anti Pakistani then so be it, I know better Pakistanis than those here and they know I don't hate Pakistan, that's all that matters to me.

At least my conscience is clear and despite all this flapping about Allah, you are side stepping all the racist tirades your friend goes on.

God knows that he is racist and me calling him out for what he is, is the right thing to do.


I get banned for calling a racist bigot out then so be it.

Encouraging and supporting a proven racist user is not a nice thing to do.


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Open your eyes, stop protecting a racist individual just because he's your countrymen, you're better than that, Pakistanis I know are better than that, I'd like to believe all are like them.

These are Bangladeshi Muslim users he's bad mouthing, he is so disgruntled, he's running his mouth on here and you like his posts?

Are these users Hindus ? That he's bashing them ? As if in some strange twist of morals needlessly bashing each and every Hindu even if they're anti sanghi is allowed.

I rest my case, you can do whatever you like but remember this all this God talk won't save you at the end of the day, turn your words into actions.

Do something God would ask and need you to do, call out those who differentiate between humans just because of skin colour.

Point made and taken.

But let it go man.

Perhaps some de-escalation is in order in this thread as well.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Point made and taken.

But let it go man.

Perhaps some de-escalation is in order in this thread as well.

I've added the genius to my ignore list. It's obvious why he hates Bangladesh, read the quotes a little and you'll find out. Or just ask Bilal bhai.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You are quoting stuff from last year, lol, how desperate you are.

Some Pakistanis will answer trolls in their same language. I don't blame them.

I guess you think that Aryan ID not a Hindu troll either, that is who he called black.

As for the guy Corleone, he is still trolling even here though I stopped replying to him long ago.

Some people are pushing for reactions from Pakistanis. The best way they find is digging up '71 and worshipping Hindus.

Guys, some of you have an inferiority complex, get over it.

We Pakistanis can say what we want about Indians, no concern of BD. Plenty of BD people don't like Indians either.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

You are quoting stuff from last year, lol, how desperate you are.

Some Pakistanis will answer trolls in their same language. I don't blame them.

I guess you think that Aryan ID not a Hindu troll either, that is who he called black.

As for the guy Corleone, he is still trolling even here though I stopped replying to him long ago.

Some people are pushing for reactions from Pakistanis. The best way they find is digging up '71 and worshipping Hindus.

Guys, some of you have an inferiority complex, get over it.

We Pakistanis can say what we want about Indians, no concern of BD. Plenty of BD people don't like Indians either.

You know what he wrote in the posts you liked just yesterday, don't pretend to be oblivious. Mods deleted them but took no action, how innocent he is, I must be mad to accuse him of being a racist.

Racist supporting another racist? If I remember rightly you yourself deem people racist for less than that.

Inferiority complex? big word you're throwing around. They get caught red handed and then try their best to twist facts and change topic with a pathetic attempt at clever use of semantics.

Good Job another one for the ignore list, take care and keep watch over your pet racist troll.


He got triggered by our Economic growth and went ballistic when I spoke of razakars and collaborators, he's also apparently lived in BD with a distant brother in some army stationed in BD, it has become very clear who he is and to what cabal he belongs, don't know why I wasted my time with congenital racists..... I was thinking he was a regular Pakistani troll but oh no he's the special type.