Bangladesh too will to have to pay dearly for the saffronisation of West Bengal

[Black_cats]

Wrong notion, hilly areas belong to other states not Assam, apart from number 16 and 11 in the following photo other areas are floodplains of Brahmaputra and Barak. However, i am not faulting you, most people think that we are a hill state.
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Still Bangladeshis are being caught and deported from my state on a daily basis. How developed was your country in the 70s and 80s? People migrated en masse and the Congress turds gave them fake documents to bolster their votebank.

Let us for a moment assume that infiltration never happened and the population explosion in Assam was due to our own Muslim population. Do you think it was ok for them to breed like insects with utter disregard to our customs and culture. Encroachment upon our religious Satra land, national parks and wildlife reserves were very common, they would raise their settlements within days and claim the place as their own by building religious structures and Congress would look the other way.

Even the militant organisation ULFA who claimed to protect our interest would look the other way as they received help from your government.

North East comprises of 8 states, we are talking about Assam here, we are self sufficient in agriculture.

Some correction for you:

1. From 1951-2011 Muslim growth rate of Assam is less than average Muslim growth rate of Muslim in India

2. Christian and other indigenous tribes have higher growth rate than Muslim

3. Since 1971-2011 Muslim growth rate is also similar to that of rest of India’s Muslim population

4. Population growth rate of Assam is lower than growth rate of Indian

5. It is radical hindu extremist propaganda that Muslims from Bangladesh has migrated to India

6. After NRC there are no scope of parroting this propaganda!!

 

[Bilal9]

Your first chart which give population density of Indian state taken from 2011 census. In 2011, population density was 964 per sq. km in Bangladesh which is less than Bihar and West Bengal. It do not need to be a rocket scientist to realize that since 2011 population in all these entities increased.

Your 2nd chart of Bangladesh's population density is taken from World Bank report of 2017 where only strictly land areas are taken into account. It exclude all the internal water bodies like rivers, lakes, canals, ponds and others.

For example, India's area is 3,166,414 sq. km but if you take only land area than India's land mass is 2,973,193 sq. km. Similarly Bangladesh's area is 1,48,460 sq. km but land area is 130,168 sq. km. World Bank data only taken the exclusive land areas of Bangladesh and calculated population density which it did with every other country in that list. That's why it showed 1265/sq. km. But if you taken total area(land+internal water) than population density in Bangladesh in 2019 is 165,000,000/148,460=1111 per sq. km which is less than West Bengal and Bihar and almost similar to UP and Kerala.

Good analysis. Take also the factor of arability of land. People will not live and work land which is not arable. Bangladeshi farmers can grow 'gold' - there is a saying locally. It is not just hyperbole - Bangladeshi farmers are efficient enough to grow more than three four crops a year on land that is fertile beyond belief, the likes of which is unavailable anywhere in India or Pakistan (except maybe places in Kerala and Andhra).

The percent of workable productive land in Bangladesh is ahead that of India and way ahead that of Pakistan.

Populations will thrive where land can be worked on, there is no use of garbage land worth only rocks and sand. People will not live in that land because it is unproductive.

So this whole argument about Bangladeshis will 'invade' India in greater numbers is just a bunch of BS.

Bangladesh' per-capita-GDP has already exceeded that of Pakistan, and India is not far ahead or out-of-reach. There are plenty of jobs available at home.

For a Bangladesh person to aspire to life in India is BS when India's health and hygiene standards (including open defecation) lag far behind that of Bangladesh.

 

[mb444]

I can only speak for myself. I don't want my state to become another Bangladesh or West Bengal. Seven decades of infiltration into Assam and the explosive population growth rate of the Bengali Muslims, and yet our population density is a third of yours in BD and in WB. This is because we Assamese alone have been taking countervailing measures with little help from the Muslims, it has come at a great cost though, districts that were Assamese majority during independence have become Muslim predominant now. Our government back them failed to take lessons from your country or Bihar or WB, that's why we have elected BJP to mitigate some of the changes. @Riyaz Syed @mb444

This is your problem. Indian bengali muslim population growth has nothing to do with Bangladesh. We have checked our population growth with multimodal action.

You speak as if assam is some independent country.... heres news for you it is not. You live in a federation where people move freely.

What you are moaning about is your problem. Sort it yourselves. Dont come here and bitch on about Bengali muslim this and that and mix it up with Bangladeshis.

Ethnically bengalis are the same irrespective of religion whether in india or in Bangladesh. However it is also an incontrovertible fact that a bangladeshi is a citizen of a sovereign country and indian bengali is a citizen of a different sovereign entity. The two are not the same. Your issue is with your own people. If you are going to act as a sovereign nation please have the guts to declare assams independence and forge your our path and spare us this santimonious verbal diorhia.

 

[namefield_empty]

The river linking project isnt anything new. The planning is going on for some time.

Lmao dolt, river interlinking is a huge project with dozens of components, some of it are feasible some not. You were talking about diverting Brahmaputra water down South, that project is a pipe dream until now.

Yea yea idiot, dont act so smart which you are not
http://thedailynewnation.com/news/112985/weapons-coming-from-india-worrying-us.html

Muppet, try sharing a link that works and stop making absurd claims. Your country hosted the insurgent groups from NE, the cun+ Tarique Rahman was caught redhanded trying to supply weapons to ULFA. Your terrorist JMB operatives are routinely caught in India trying to brainwash the Bangladeshi muslims in Assam and Bengal. I could go on and on.

You think every Bengali origin people are stupid. Your prejudice shows who is the ignorant here.

Stop putting words in my mouth, i never said that. But i have nothing but contempt for those who smuggle and infiltrate into India and those living in ghettos taking pride in their four wives and dozen children with absolute disregard for local culture.

Indian bengali muslim population growth has nothing to do with Bangladesh.

Ethnically bengalis are the same irrespective of religion whether in india or in Bangladesh.

Six times the population with twice the landmass when compared with Assam, i agree with you that Bangals are the same whether in Assam and BD. Whether in Assam, WB or BD they sure like to breed copiously..

You speak as if assam is some independent country.... heres news for you it is not. You live in a federation where people move freely.

It is expected that people assimilate into the local culture when moving into a different place, like from BD to Assam in your case. People mustn't herd themselves together in ghettos, commit crimes against the local community and breed like insects.

Your issue is with your own people.

Not necessarily, the 40 lakhs out of NRC final draft are your citizens.

We have checked our population growth with multimodal action.

Right, and one of the modes involved sending your people to Assam illegally.

 

[Doctor Strange]

Lmao dolt, river interlinking is a huge project with dozens of components, some of it are feasible some not. You were talking about diverting Brahmaputra water down South, that project is a pipe dream until now.

I dont need to reply anymore here. The pipe dream or not. But it came in minds of previous Indian Govts. As they diverted water from other rivers without giving proper share to BD. The threat is always there. There are gullible people in BD who thinks India works in favor of BD and they will try to open a corridor for India to divert Brahmaputra river. My comment was directed towards BD, not you troll. The thing is you Indians think you are doing great service to mother India by internet trolling. But more of you guys come out the more stupid you look.

Muppet, try sharing a link that works and stop making absurd claims. Your country hosted the insurgent groups from NE, the cun+ Tarique Rahman was caught redhanded trying to supply weapons to ULFA. Your terrorist JMB operatives are routinely caught in India trying to brainwash the Bangladeshi muslims in Assam and Bengal. I could go on and on.

Try search "Gulsan attack weapons came from India". BD govt is blocking different links. It works using VPN. Dont talk about past. Stay relevant in present time. In the past India helped shanti bahini and other terror outfits against BD.

Stop putting words in my mouth, i never said that. But i have nothing but contempt for those who smuggle and infiltrate into India and those living in ghettos taking pride in their four wives and dozen children with absolute disregard for local culture.

You acted like you can get away by spreading misinformation. As you think most BDs are stupid. But on a side note I wont like to see anyone destroying if there is any positive local culture. I dont hold BD culture that great too. But Assamese people are xenophobic in nature. Its not limited to Bengalis. But whomever looks like outside of Assam, Link 1 and Link 2. So your hatred here shows you can turn out to be a future killer too.

Bangladeshi muslims in Assam and Bengal

If you dont wanna be in my ignore list. Dont use these words ever again. "Bangladeshi Muslims in Assam".

 

[Black_cats]

Lmao dolt, river interlinking is a huge project with dozens of components, some of it are feasible some not. You were talking about diverting Brahmaputra water down South, that project is a pipe dream until now.

Muppet, try sharing a link that works and stop making absurd claims. Your country hosted the insurgent groups from NE, the cun+ Tarique Rahman was caught redhanded trying to supply weapons to ULFA. Your terrorist JMB operatives are routinely caught in India trying to brainwash the Bangladeshi muslims in Assam and Bengal. I could go on and on.

Stop putting words in my mouth, i never said that. But i have nothing but contempt for those who smuggle and infiltrate into India and those living in ghettos taking pride in their four wives and dozen children with absolute disregard for local culture.



Six times the population with twice the landmass when compared with Assam, i agree with you that Bangals are the same whether in Assam and BD. Whether in Assam, WB or BD they sure like to breed copiously..

It is expected that people assimilate into the local culture when moving into a different place, like from BD to Assam in your case. People mustn't herd themselves together in ghettos, commit crimes against the local community and breed like insects.

Not necessarily, the 40 lakhs out of NRC final draft are your citizens.

Right, and one of the modes involved sending your people to Assam illegally.
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Put your hindutva trolling somewhere else. This was a religious gathering that happens every year and used to block entire Dhaka city as Muslim from all around world come for the gathering. Now it has been divided into 3-4 events so it does not crate that much crowd any more.

 

[namefield_empty]

As they diverted water from other rivers without giving proper share to BD. The threat is always there. There are gullible people in BD who thinks India works in favor of BD and they will try to open a corridor for India to divert Brahmaputra river.

Let us not kid ourselves, there is enough water in the Brahmaputra-Meghna water system to provide for Assam and Bangladesh, in fact excess of it so much that both of our regions come under the effect of vicious floods each year and there's nothing we can do about it. What's wrong in diverting a little of that water to the dry Southern states that goes to waste anyway. I am all for it but the hardline elements in my state will oppose any such move. Hence i asked you not to worry about it.

Try search "Gulsan attack weapons came from India". BD govt is blocking different links. It works using VPN.

More conspiracy theories.

In the past India helped shanti bahini and other terror outfits against BD.

Lol, no. Infact we host the Chakmas driven out of Bangladesh in North East, including Assam. How many Assamese do you find seeking refuge in Bangladesh? Thousands were displaced after the Kaptai project was commissioned.

But whomever looks like outside of Assam, Link 1 and Link 2.

But you conveniently ignore that Paresh Barua was operating from Bangladesh during the time those attacks took place, got all kinds of help from your country. One of the attacks took place in my town, and we were the first to protest and rally against those inhuman murders.

If you dont wanna be in my ignore list. Dont use these words ever again. "Bangladeshi Muslims in Assam".

Bangladeshi Muslims in Assam.

Put your hindutva trolling somewhere else.

You are mistaken if you believe that Hindutva has anything to do with this, most of us did vote for BJP but we distance ourselves from this Hindutva thing.

Btw this is exactly what @Riyaz Syed wanted, to make us engage with each other in petty squabbles.

 

[Hasan89]

West Bengal will want to join Bangladesh after the much anti-bengali stuffs they get hit with from the Hindutva Hindi north indian BJP goons in West Bengal. Mamata already said “Bangla is Bangla, it’s not Gujrat”, and she said how non-Bengalis BJP’s goons trying to destabilise Bengal.

People can only take so much. Only options out for the West Bengalis is to merge with Bangladesh. Or else they’ll be ruled by North India Hindi Walas BJP and be deprived of their own rights in their own state where they (west bengalis) form the overwhelming majority.

 

[Bilal9]

i agree with you that Bangals are the same whether in Assam and BD. Whether in Assam, WB or BD they sure like to breed copiously..

I know you are trolling to some extent but spreading downright falsehoods like this (copied/pasted ditto from the RSS propaganda manual) is wrong. And reinforcing this with an overloaded train image that happens once a year in the late afternoon (Tongi Ijtema).

The rate of fertility in Bangladesh is 2.2 Child per woman (which is replacement rate meaning not increasing). It may be down to 2.1 child by now. How many times did we have post this for every Sanghi noob in this sub-forum?

Indian fertility rate is higher at 2.3. Fertility rate is highest in the Indian cow belt uneducated unproductive goonda states in the North BIMARU region, home of your RSS strongholds. This is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. Take a look.

Interestingly - all NE states seem to be 'breeding copiously', and with little Bangal involvement per se (they get chopped into pieces in places like Nagaland and Mizoram and are few and far between to be found in these states). What explains that scenario?

IMHO, copious breeding happens because one happens to be an uneducated idiot f*ck and does not know any better (about using contraception for example).

One has to question the education of anyone who believes genetics or race has anything to do with it.

 

[suresh1773]

I would but they don't want to ....
They seperate from us to form an ethnic nation and it is incomplete without Indian bengal .
I am talking about formation of joint bengal under Indian union ofcourse . Don't worry .

U cannot merge a country on the basis of language, religion or ethnicity. Otherwise Russia would not have broken into 13 parts. Europe would be one country. What about Pakistan, what about the ethnic violence between MQM and others.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

U cannot merge a country on the basis of language, religion or ethnicity. Otherwise Russia would not have broken into 13 parts. Europe would be one country. What about Pakistan, what about the ethnic violence between MQM and others.

Hey . Are you like sane .
Does Europe has one culture, language, ethnicity and religion? Does the region that seperate from Russia have the same culture, langauge , religion or ethnicity?
Bengal was created beacsue of ethnicity and a true Bengali nation is incomplete without the entire bengal .
Pakistan was created on the basis of religion so we are a union and have many ethnicities. Bangaldesh renounced that and formed a country purely on the basis of ethnicity .
It is eminent , bengal cannot stay alone. Bangali from both sides want union of two states. Surely India is too powerful and you cannot seperate west bengal from them .
But you can merge bangaldesh into India

 

[Riyad]

Bengal was created beacsue of ethnicity and a true Bengali nation is incomplete without the entire bengal .
Pakistan was created on the basis of religion so we are a union and have many ethnicities. Bangaldesh renounced that and formed a country purely on the basis of ethnicity .
It is eminent , bengal cannot stay alone. Bangali from both sides want union of two states. Surely India is too powerful and you cannot seperate west bengal from them .
But you can merge bangaldesh into India

There are two Bengals. West Bengal and East Bengal (Bangladesh). There are two Assam. Assam and Sylhet (Bangladesh). There are two religions. Islam and Hinduism.

It is almost impossible to merge back East Bengal and Sylhet to India because of Hindu and Muslim conflicts in Bengal.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

There are two Bengals. West Bengal and East Bengal (Bangladesh). There are two Assam. Assam and Sylhet (Bangladesh). There are two religions. Islam and Hinduism.

It is almost impossible to merge back East Bengal and Sylhet to India because of Hindu and Muslim conflicts in Bengal.

With what face are you going towards two nation theory .
You people shunned it. There is no such thing as religion when it comes to ethnicity.
Though Muslims claim religion is above everything but in reality it is always the ethnicity. Nationalism is the most important thing for for bangaldesh .
Does those Hindus across the border do not speak Bengali or just have the same culture and dna just like you?
So what stopped you from forming a true Bengali nation?
And besides there are lot of Muslim in West bengal too and Hindus in Bangladesh too so no problem for that .

 

[Riyad]

With what face are you going towards two nation theory .
You people shunned it. There is no such thing as religion when it comes to ethnicity.
Though Muslims claim religion is above everything but in reality it is always the ethnicity. Nationalism is the most important thing for for bangaldesh .
Does those Hindus across the border do not speak Bengali or just have the same culture and dna just like you?
So what stopped you from forming a true Bengali nation?
And besides there are lot of Muslim in West bengal too and Hindus in Bangladesh too so no problem for that .

Believe me, Bangladesh has very religious minded Muslims. Pakistan is not even 10% of what Bangladesh is in terms of religiously strict type people. Pakistanis did not kill 3 million Bangladeshis. Its the local Bangladeshi 'Razakars' (extremist local collaborators of Pakistani army) who mostly killed and raped other Bangladeshis. What do you think about the image crisis of Bangladeshis in America and England due to rise of Bangladeshi extremist militants?

There is a reason why Bangladeshis de-touched themselves from India even though Bangladesh sits on Indian lap geographically and it was historical 'Purvi Bangal' of India.

Bengalis from other side of the border consider themselves Indians but Bangladeshis have gone through 3 national identities in history. Indian, Pakistani and at last Bangladeshi. So united Bengal is not possible from Bangladeshi point of view.

 

[Nilgiri]

Lmao dolt, river interlinking is a huge project with dozens of components, some of it are feasible some not. You were talking about diverting Brahmaputra water down South, that project is a pipe dream until now.

Muppet, try sharing a link that works and stop making absurd claims. Your country hosted the insurgent groups from NE, the cun+ Tarique Rahman was caught redhanded trying to supply weapons to ULFA. Your terrorist JMB operatives are routinely caught in India trying to brainwash the Bangladeshi muslims in Assam and Bengal. I could go on and on.

Stop putting words in my mouth, i never said that. But i have nothing but contempt for those who smuggle and infiltrate into India and those living in ghettos taking pride in their four wives and dozen children with absolute disregard for local culture.



Six times the population with twice the landmass when compared with Assam, i agree with you that Bangals are the same whether in Assam and BD. Whether in Assam, WB or BD they sure like to breed copiously..

It is expected that people assimilate into the local culture when moving into a different place, like from BD to Assam in your case. People mustn't herd themselves together in ghettos, commit crimes against the local community and breed like insects.

Not necessarily, the 40 lakhs out of NRC final draft are your citizens.

Right, and one of the modes involved sending your people to Assam illegally.
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And now the idiot hiding from ICE in cali is posting his BD govt BS again lol.

They will say their fertility rate is low, yet they export/exported these many illegals not just to India but all over the world. Not to mention what the recorded BD fertility rate is in much more trustworthy places like UK etc (higher by far than any other group). You know UK... a country that doesn't have 95% seat win national elections and 3 million tears paranoia (i.e a basic underlying credibility when it comes to actual data transparency on such things). Then they whine when you show the disparity between their teenage pregnancy+birth rate and TFR compared to any country in the world....as major question mark toward their credibility on TFR.

They will say their life expectancy is so and so high.....but they send these many medical refugees to India for basic treatment of the most basic of basic healthcare.

They will say their Economy is this and this GDP, but they manage to invest 2 dollars per person outside it (showing just how much inflation is really there esp when it comes to materialising physical USD to show any relevant strength outside)....and their market cap is atrocious (so internal liquidity w.r.t inflation is in terrible state too).

They will say their "elite/middle class" are smart and productive....but they do abysmally when they arrive/settle anywhere in the world...earning in the bottom strata of all immigrants always and consistently....and tending towards using "Indian" identity for their businesses first thing....for reasons that are clear to everyone.

They will say lot of things....but reality everyone (that is not them) knows different. The final proven crush on this is just how many people around the world even bother to visit BD to verify any such claims....it is a tiny trickle.

So time-wise its best you balance how much you try counter them (here and directly) given its somewhat a doomed endeavour after a point, as compared to select the best ripe juicy areas when others start to inevitably question their fake feel-good numbers/narrative too. i.e don't try hit a boundary off every delivery....pick the actual loose ones worth it.

Always use the real world reality/experience and 3rd party neutral data (esp for 3rd party ppl) as much as you can first thing and make it count. Make these fools over-clamour and over-rely towards their big authoritarian groupthink govt and all its organs and biased agendas...and the argument concludes easily (among those watching/reading that matter) by its own momentum.

The hidden bonus is you will also find which BD members (willing to challenge their govt groupthink stronk narrative etc) are actually worth interacting with on various topics as well. Those few will also in the end be the sorts that are instrumental in changing their country/society for the better. The ones that sit as failures outside BD (generally securely away from deportation authorities)....or are too emotionally invested in their cocoons inside BD....are not worth much of your time. They simply get to watch the reality unfold and depress them as usual....its a good special karma all on its own.

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