'Bangladesh territory won't be allowed for anti-India activities'

[Al-zakir]

That's our national Anthem,though you are saying "no pun intended",I can see sarcasm written all over it.

Sarcasm or not nonetheless this song should not be national of anthem of "People republic of Bangladesh" for sure. I don't really give a crap about tagore being greatest bangla poet. Fact of the matter is, He was an anti-muslim and hindu foundamentalist. If we had any pride of being a national of ummat-e-Muslima than we whould have choose song that refect the majority people of Bd writen by a Muslim poet.

Now don't tell me we ran out of Muslim writer.......Spare me from the Misery.....

 

[agastya]

Sarcasm or not nonetheless this song should not be national of anthem of "Fact of the matter is, He was an anti-muslim and hindu foundamentalist. "

will you put a bit of light on it...

and how come a person being of whatever religion he belongs great or ungreat

so with respect to that terminology albert eintetin being a jew was not a great scientist

martin luther king jr. being a christian was not great


and please for got shake stop this BS that a person who did not belong to your religion cannot be great


and rabindra nath tagore was borned and died even before india ,or pakistan or bangaldesh gained independence so to force them to make his song as an anthem of there country

 

[advaita]

This part needs clarification as you are new here.

Some Indian members here were boasting that India gave us Independence.although we know it was a joint effort of Indian army and Bangladeshi Freedom fighters.They were undermining our FFs.They seriously needed some history lessons,as they were taught ultra-nationalist history in their school.

That's why I am sick of those Indians,but not all Indians.Because there are many Indians who acknowledge that without Freedom fighters,there would not be any Bangladesh.They accept that,because they know history.

So you see I am speaking directly to those people to whom it is directed.
Now the question is which type of Indian are you?

Some Indian members doing something here and there do not make India (there are idiots everywhere, even in BD). What does the BD member in you do bark with the dogs. Of course BD freedom fighters were the real reason, Indian strategy meant for itself worked so well for so long.

BD is obviously a soverign country. I am the kind of Indian brought up to believe that. That also means that it has to face the flak when it behaves in an unneighbourly fashion. Just like any other country (including India) but what is the point of carrying the cross when no persecution is intended (just look at Pakistan, what it made of itself since independence , and only because of percieved slights).
In fact I work in the construction industry in India, meet many more people then most and can assure that most Indians are hard at work trying to make ends meet and do not know the facts of 1971 and would actually be surprised at your hostility and amonst people who do know the facts there is actually a lot of respect for BD freedom fighters and both types of people are nil need or time to suppress BD. They are more worried about migrants coming into India from BD because of which we find it hard to provide even low earning employment to our own people.

Sorry for the delay. got busy in the Indian forum. You see lesser members there and more info there resulting in average analysis.

 

[Jako]

Ok,zakir.....now who's the next best, now that acc to you 'hindu' tagore is a misfit ,ummmm....oh yes,maybe your national poet and one of the greatest bengalis ever born Kazi najrul islam......but hey,he married a hindu girl,so he is not a true muslim,maybe he was too brainwashed by his hindu wife(i remember you once said or thanked a post which said akbar was brainwashed by his hindu wife!!!).......najrul also mocked the so called mullahs in some of his poems.......i remember 'aam-pora joto hambora mora'(or something similar) in a poem......so what now???.....hmmm.....maybe he also is now a misfit to be your national poet!!!...buddy,try to broaden up your views and sight bout the beautifull people and world that surrounds you!!!

 

[Al-zakir]

will you put a bit of light on it...

He was a lunatic who vote against the establishment of dhaka university as it east bengal was majority Muslim.. Enough reason for us to banned all of his work from Bangladesh.

and how come a person being of whatever religion he belongs great or ungreat

I said I don't give a crap even if he is a great poet. meaning he probably was but his song doesn't represent majority Muslim nation. Read and understand before making fool out of your self.

 

[M_Saint]

Ok,zakir.....now who's the next best, now that acc to you 'hindu' tagore is a misfit ,ummmm....oh yes,maybe your national poet and one of the greatest bengalis ever born Kazi najrul islam......but hey,he married a hindu girl,so he is not a true muslim,maybe he was too brainwashed by his hindu wife(i remember you once said or thanked a post which said akbar was brainwashed by his hindu wife!!!).......najrul also mocked the so called mullahs in some of his poems.......i remember 'aam-pora joto hambora mora'(or something similar) in a poem......so what now???.....hmmm.....maybe he also is now a misfit to be your national poet!!!...buddy,try to broaden up your views and sight bout the beautifull people and world that surrounds you!!!

Jako Dada,

Nazrul not only mocked Mullahs by writing 'Ampora jato Hambora tato' but he also replaced devatas by Ashur in Sharga at his poetry, 'Pap' by saying, 'Tetrish koti devotar pape sharge she talmal
....................... Sharge ashur dal'. But leaving poetry contest aside and coming to the core, I guess Zakir wanted to clear it up that Tagore didn't represent 'khete khaoa Bengali Muslim' in his poetry. If he did then he wouldn't take shelter in 'Joy Bangla' camp and called Mount Baten as 'Bangha Bharata Baghya Vidata', thanks.

 

[toxic_pus]

Jako Dada,

Nazrul not only mocked Mullahs by writing 'Ampora jato Hambora tato' but he also replaced devatas by Ashur in Sharga at his poetry, 'Pap' by saying, 'Tetrish koti devotar pape sharge she talmal
....................... Sharge ashur dal'.

You do realise that Kaji wrote a number of Shyamasangeet(devotional song dedicated to goddess Kali) and Bengali Hindus sing those songs without thinking twice that these were written by someone not belonging to their religion.

Can you guess where I am going with this?

But leaving poetry contest aside and coming to the core, I guess Zakir wanted to clear it up that Tagore didn't represent 'khete khaoa Bengali Muslim' in his poetry. If he did then he wouldn't take shelter in 'Joy Bangla' camp and called Mount Baten as 'Bangha Bharata Baghya Vidata', thanks.

I am not sure I got your reference to 'Joy Bangla' with regard to Tagore. Tagore died 1941, in case you are wondering.

Mountbatten arrived in India, on 22nd March, 1947. Exactly how was Tagore referring to Mountbatten, since, by then, he would be dead for at least 6 yrs.

Can you please clarify the above two points.

 

[Jako]

M-saint bro,it must be remembered that when tagore opposed dhaka univ. bengal was one,there was also numerous hindus in the now bangladesh part of bengal who move to wb after partition and the numerous muslims in wb moved to bd after partition.....so east bengal at that time of unified bengal was not really much of a muslim majority state!!!......also,in india there was an uproar when some scholars put forward the 'mountbatten-bhagya bidhata' theory........but those were effectively rubbished by scholars of even greater stature,and we accepted that.......great poets like najrul and tagore are just not that little to be judged on religious grounds by us.....,tagore also wrote mocking moronic hindu superstitions......so you can see they were hugely neutral to certain point.......but mostly najrul.......and zakir,your national poet also wrote 'mora aki brinte duti kusum hindu-musalmam......hindu tahar noyonmoni,muslim tahar pran'.....know what that means?...i know it,and believe it from underneath my heart.......regards

 

[toxic_pus]

...in india there was an uproar when some scholars put forward the 'mountbatten-bhagya bidhata' theory........but those were effectively rubbished by scholars of even greater stature,and we accepted that...

What is so nauseatingly disgusting about this 'mountbatten-bhagya bidhata' theory is that the song, Jana Gana Mana was first sung in 1911 and Mountbatten came to India in 1947. How in the hell did Mountbatten get into this conspiracy theory and how come these conspiracy theorists didn't notice this monstrosity of anachronism, just beats me. It actually speaks volumes about the intellectual bankruptcy among those conspiracy theorists. One can however, consider the theory (wrong btw) that George V was the "bharat bhagya vidhata" referred to in the song.

In any case, Tagore was actually referring to almighty, in case anybody is wondering.

 

[Al-zakir]

Ok,zakir.....now who's the next best, now that acc to you 'hindu' tagore is a misfit ,ummmm....oh yes,maybe your national poet and one of the greatest bengalis ever born Kazi najrul islam......but hey,he married a hindu girl,so he is not a true muslim,maybe he was too brainwashed by his hindu wife(i remember you once said or thanked a post which said akbar was brainwashed by his hindu wife!!!).......najrul also mocked the so called mullahs in some of his poems.......i remember 'aam-pora joto hambora mora'(or something similar) in a poem......so what now???.....hmmm.....maybe he also is now a misfit to be your national poet!!!...buddy,try to broaden up your views and sight bout the beautifull people and world that surrounds you!!!

Jako welcome back.......

What makes you think Tagore is the best? He belongs to you thus you keep him. As a Muslim and Bangladeshi I feel shame and disrespected that a mushrik and non-Bangladesh's song as been chosen to be national anthem of majority Muslim state. It shows how incompetent Bangladesh as a Nation. Pure disgraced and based on fake foundation. This song and current flag was chosen by mushrik and munafiq element right after separation to hindunize Bangladesh with respect to Pakistan. We came long way and Bangladesh is Islamic once again thus it time we should discard the song and re alter the flag to represent true aspiration of our people.

I am not fan of Najrul or Akbar. Both of their marriage life was haram according to Islam however it was their individual choice so they will face the consequence in front of almighty.

Najrul may or may not be a good Muslim however he served Islam through sea of Islamic writing thus he belong to us.

My all time favorite Sultan-e-Hind is Aurangzeb. True Islamic empire was under his sultanate.

 

[shravan]

As a Muslim and Bangladeshi I feel shame and disrespected that a mushrik song as been chosen to be national anthem of majority Muslim state. This song and current flag was chosen by mushrik and munafiq element right after separation to hindunize Bangladesh with respect to Pakistan. We came long way and Bangladesh is Islamic once again thus it time we should discard the song and re alter the flag to represent true aspiration of our people.

You must be more ashamed of yourself that a Hindu majority Country came to save your *** from your Own Brothers.(And I know we did it for our own benefit but it still shows what kind of problems you were facing)

 

[Jako]

Jako welcome back.......

What makes you think Tagore is the best? He belongs to you thus you keep him. As a Muslim and Bangladeshi I feel shame and disrespected that a mushrik song as been chosen to be national anthem of majority Muslim state. This song and current flag was chosen by mushrik and munafiq element right after separation to hindunize Bangladesh with respect to Pakistan. We came long way and Bangladesh is Islamic once again thus it time we should discard the song and re alter the flag to represent true aspiration of our people.

I am not fan of Najrul or Akbar. Both of their marriage life was haram according to Islam however it was their individual choice so they will face the consequence in front of almighty.

Najrul may or may not be a good Muslim however he served Islam through sea of Islamic writing thus he belong to us.

My all time favorite Sultan-e-Hind was Aurangzeb. True Islamic empire was under his sultanate.

hmmm....so you dont like najrul aswell, as he married a hindu girl and wrote hindu shyamasangeets(songs).......who told me tagore's the best???.....the world told me,and his poems told me.........you are not a fan of akbar who is the most well known mughal king,for his good work for humanity and for hinduthan's unity!!!.....but you like who is mostly known for his unhumane killing of innocents and destruction of priceless historical monuments.......aurangazeb was the key player for the demise of mughal empire........so you support killing of innocents???.....lolz........hmmmm,so bd has an unwanted anthem,flag and now national poet!!!.......buddy,how long have you been away from banglaesh!!!???.....and thanks for welcoming me back....regards

 

[Al-zakir]

You must be more ashamed of yourself that a Hindu majority Country came to save your *** from your Own Brothers.(And I know we did it for our own benefit but it still shows what kind of problems you were facing)

Yes I am and that was also invited by Munafiq and traitorous element to bring down Islamic empire but the funny thing is that those bastard are cornered in Bangladesh.

 

[Jako]

Hmm....so acc to you allah will only judge najrul for his haram,ie marrying a hindu girl......but the almighty wud not take into account what he did for fellow humans,his good work etc......nice pov i must say

 

[Al-zakir]

aurangazeb

Well you know the saying goes: One man Mujahid is another man Dashadgard assuming you know the meaning of Dashadgard.