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Bangladesh’s exports to India can reach $ 10b

I think the barriers for trade to north east are born out of security fears mainly though there may be other factors too. The below para from a article on north east economic problems outlines certain topics we are discussing here

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Another area where radical policy action is needed is the external sector. For long, it has been argued that the disadvantageous geographical situation of the Northeast region is one of the main stumbling blocks for its economic development. This isolated, landlocked region shares less than 2 per cent of its borders with the rest of the country, and the rest with Bhutan, Bangladesh, Myanmar and the Tibetan region of China. For the most part, this international border has been artificially created. The result has been the elimination of the region's trade, commerce and other linkages that existed in pre-Partition days. Using the region's two per cent perimeter as a major linkage point with the rest of India, and at the same time checking the inflow of goods and people from across the remaining 98 per cent, has been both a gigantic task and quite counter-productive.

Lately, there has been talk of converting this locational disadvantage into a boon because of an increasingly integrated world economy. This is particularly so when all the seven States of the region are on international borders. In addition, these States are very close to the dynamic Southeast and East Asian economies.

Most policy makers in the region are excited and optimistic about the idea of linking their economies with dynamic Asia. There are even suggestions that if, for security reasons, the Government of India is reluctant to open up the natural trade routes, the Northeast States should ask the Central government to compensate them for the loss of trade. [33]

It is imperative to develop a coherent policy perspective on this issue. The current situation not only represents a failure of the economic policy framework in the region, but also a weakness of country's foreign policy, which has ignored Southeast Asia for a long time. As a result, the Northeast region was not only cut off from its natural economic partners [34] but also encircled by unfriendly countries.

So far the major border trade activity of the region with Bangladesh and Myanmar is 'unauthorised trade'. The State authorities are fully aware of these activities, which function smoothly through unofficial channels. China is an important player in the border trade even though its trading activities are mainly through Myanmar.

The major policy issue, therefore, would be to synchronise these realities with Indian trade policies. In fact, to transform this low economic activity area into a dynamic region in the next ten to fifteen years, a co-ordinated effort by different Central ministries — mainly External Affairs, Home, Finance and Commerce — as well as a strong commitment from each of the Northeast States is needed. With a well thought-out long-term policy, this region has the potential to emerge as a strategic base for domestic and foreign investors to tap the potential of contiguous markets of China, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia as well as Malaysia, Indonesia and beyond.

To begin with, the emphasis should be on creating conditions, both at the policy level and at the ground level, on converting the unauthorised trade into authorised trade. This is not a simple task. The genuine trader will have many practical problems. Unauthorised trade works on the basis of a strong network which involves traders, the police, forest departments and, of course, many underground groups - and each has its own share in the pie. Apart from infrastructural problems at Moreh, the large number of checkposts on National Highways 39 and 53 would create a problem in switching over from illegal to legal trade. Traders claim that the expenditure on transportation from Moreh to Dimapur is about Rs 50,000 per truck, which includes hire charges, payments to various underground groups, and money paid to almost every police and forest checkpost. [35] Similarly, transport expenditure from Imphal to Guwahati is more than Rs 35,000 per truck. The main reason is that the commodities that are coming from the border are not legal. The list of items agreed by the governments of India and Myanmar is not of much use to traders. However, even if the products were legal, the usual 'tax' would still need to be paid at every checkpoint.

In most cases, the State governments turn a blind eye to the border trade in illegal items because it creates a lot of economic activity in the region. But, since these commodities are not officially declared legal, there is corruption at every turn. It would be a good idea to declare certain areas in the region as Free Trade Areas officially since, for all practical purposes, they are free trade areas anyway.

After designating these areas as Free Trade Areas and creating a minimum infrastructure, the second major step could be to devise an aggressive strategy to form a Growth Triangle or Quadrangle involving neighbouring regions. Some scholars had previously emphasised the idea of the "Bay of Bengal Growth Triangle". [36] It was proposed to have joint studies and co-ordinated investment plans to tap the natural resources of the region that includes the eastern and north eastern States of India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan and possibly Myanmar. But, with the signing of the Bangladesh-India-Myanmar-Sri Lanka-Thailand Economic Co-operation (BIMST-EC) agreement, the focus has shifted to this forum.

While keeping the interests of India's Northeast in mind, some inter-related steps could also be taken to create a growth quadrangle involving Northeastern India, northern Myanamar, south-west China, [37] northern Thailand and Bangladesh. [38] In August 1999, the "Kunming Initiative" to promote a growth quadrangle between India, China, Myanmar and Bangladesh was launched at an international conference in Kunming, the Capital of the Yunnan province of China. The conference resolved to establish a Forum for Regional Co-operation between China, India, Myanmar and Bangladesh through interaction among academics, governments and leaders of business and industry. The basic objective of the conference was to strengthen regional economic co-operation among contiguous regions of eastern / north eastern India, Bangladesh, China and Myanmar. [39] It was agreed that regional co-operation "should be guided by the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence, emphasising equality and mutual benefit, sustainable development, comparative advantages, adoption of international standards, and infrastructure development in order to enhance connectivity and facilitate the widest possible economic co-operation". [40] In this way, in the long run, the vision of making India's Northeast a partner in a wider cross-border Brahmaputra-Yangtze-Mekong quadrant can be realised. [41]

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Would you consider the possibility that a brand is not a guarantee for the quality of an individual lot?

I already explained our practice which follows most modern market yet in 3rd world country. We are doing just perfectly fine and the sky did not fall upon us.

Is this a practical proposition for the Indian market? Once goods have entered the country, they can be shipped anywhere else, and it is impossible to set up a programme to test products from shop shelves. That is why testing is done once, at the point of entry.
That is totally impractical to test every single shipment while it is sitting in the custom house. Cost multiplied. Rather you should let the importer take that to his warehouse and testing be done afterward according to Indian requirement.

Most of the difficulties mentioned relate to the north-east market. If the intention is to sell to the rest of India, and goods are shipped out through West Bengal, there should be no problem.

Well, most goods go to mainland yet certain products do have exclusive market in NE. We consider whole India as a unit and the problem should be dealt with accordingly.


I have no idea what this is due to, but I do know that not all banks are allowed to open international letters of credit. Only designated branches of each bank are allowed to do these foreign exchange dealings. It is surprising to hear that there is a restriction on opening L/Cs for Bangladesh.

I dont know how much business BD lost due to that but this give a clear indication that Indian govt put barricade intentionally. Business is a sensitive thing and lot to do with the prevailing perception.

Has anyone taken up this point with your High Commissioner or your Deputy High Commissioner? Or with the Commercial Secretary at either the High Commission or the Deputy High Commission? I am not sure about what can be done about the testing delays, as obviously that is due to inadequate infrastructure striving to keep up with expansion on a large scale, but surely godowns and customs-bonded warehouses can be built; they are available in plenty in the Kolkata docks.

On the whole, after listening to these accounts, it seems that there are three sets of problems. First, there are testing requirements which are felt to be rigorous. Second, facilities at crossing points are poor, and goods cannot be stored in secure conditions. Third, the delays rule out the export of perishables. Fourth, there are commercial difficulties related to the inability to establish lines of credit.

I believe that those who are interested can get in touch with local chambers of commerce in Kolkata, and put up their cases, and be sure to get a hearing. What is certain is that nobody wishes to reduce the volume of trade. These occurrences are definitely, certainly teething troubles, and need to be addressed directly and energetically.

Well, if you are not aware, these trade related matters are way out of High Comissioner's Jurisdiction. Yes things getting discussed in different forum including Secretary and Ministerial level meeting as well as SAFTA, BIMSTEC etc. Its not that we did not make any progress yet lot need to be done.
 
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The L/C thingy is news to me.

Indians are just increasing cost to BD products by adding all these BS barriers to NE export. Transportation to NE India is expensive from the West of BD.
 
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it is very unlikey that India will remove all the barriers, because BD has many advantages in terms of manufacturing compared to India like lower cost, more open economy, so if India removes all barriers their trade deficit will become more disturbing than it is now``

If India really pulls down its barriers, there will be influx of capital investments in BD from Southeast Asia and China who would target their high quality products to Indian market. India does not enjoy this prospect of BD getting all the attention from these would-be investors. This may be one reason why it keeps on talking soft in order to hide its barrier-prone BD policy. India's policy is 'Poor thy neighbours.'
 
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In the other, Bangladeshi exporters want to export direct to the underdeveloped north-east and are upset that conditions don't match those in other parts of the country. Their solution - drop all testing requirements.

Are we allowed to excuse ourselves from dumping sub-standard, untested goods by the third world just as much as we restrict such practices by the first world?

India is not supposed to get away with all the testings. But it should certainly get rid of the lengthy time it takes to give the results of a testing. It is certainly a barrier in disguise and a punishment to BD would-be exporters that cannot be surmounted by a country in a weak position. By the way, I am surprised to hear you guys allow our HILSHA fish with or without testing. Why? Because Calcutta people cherish its tastes.

How about employing some strict testing rules for BD Hilsha. I am afraid our BD Hilsha may contain bacteria and cause weak stomach Indians many disease. Be careful about BD Hilsha.
 
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What useless carping!

India has to follow its rules and its systems. You have a problem, export to China!

Trade is meant for two way benefit. It is perfectly within oor and Bangladesh' rights to regulate it as per our needs.
 
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What useless carping!

India has to follow its rules and its systems. You have a problem, export to China!

Trade is meant for two way benefit. It is perfectly within oor and Bangladesh' rights to regulate it as per our needs.

You are certainly a part of that hypocrite Indian bureaucracy! Good! But, do not prescribe a $10 billion Indian market for BD goods. BD is not that interested to enter that thorny market of India. Meanwhile, enjoy eating our bacteria-laden Hilsha fish.
 
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India is not supposed to get away with all the testings. But it should certainly get rid of the lengthy time it takes to give the results of a testing. It is certainly a barrier in disguise and a punishment to BD would-be exporters that cannot be surmounted by a country in a weak position. By the way, I am surprised to hear you guys allow our HILSHA fish with or without testing. Why? Because Calcutta people cherish its tastes.

How about employing some strict testing rules for BD Hilsha. I am afraid our BD Hilsha may contain bacteria and cause weak stomach Indians many disease. Be careful about BD Hilsha.

No, no, NO testing for Hilsa (nothing personal, I am a vegetarian myself). Let us work on streamlining the rules instead.

What useless carping!

India has to follow its rules and its systems. You have a problem, export to China!

Trade is meant for two way benefit. It is perfectly within oor and Bangladesh' rights to regulate it as per our needs.

One word out of plaice, and people will conclude that you/we are fishing in troubled waters. Let us not be crabby, as we are not the sole market available. This business of difficulties in procedure and financing is a red herring which must go. We must school our staff so that both sides net the most.
 
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As usual, India is all talk and little in substance. This High Commissioner is just trying to appease his lsteners. Indians will feint at the thought of purchasing BD goods at $10 billion per year. We have been hearing this kind of lectures for the last 40 years. It is true that India needs BD assistance to develop its neighbouring States, but India will rather prefer an underdeveloped NE, if necessary, but will not allow BD goods worth $10 billion. Indian Baniyas are interested only to sell and grab BD market with their shoddy goods.

$10 billion export to india could happen only in dream. if it happens we have to investigate $20 billion trafficking of Bangladeshi resources to india.
 
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No, no, NO testing for Hilsa (nothing personal, I am a vegetarian myself). Let us work on streamlining the rules instead.



One word out of plaice, and people will conclude that you/we are fishing in troubled waters. Let us not be crabby, as we are not the sole market available. This business of difficulties in procedure and financing is a red herring which must go. We must school our staff so that both sides net the most.
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hehehe....nice
 
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hehehe....nice

Meanwhile, comrade Eastwatch, having woken up three hours ahead of us, is having a whale of a time. Too much poisson floating around; I need to find a way to avoid getting trolled.

You are certainly a part of that hypocrite Indian bureaucracy! Good! But, do not prescribe a $10 billion Indian market for BD goods. BD is not that interested to enter that thorny market of India. Meanwhile, enjoy eating our bacteria-laden Hilsha fish.

Fishbones, not thorns, surely?
 
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China is always willing to help Bangladesh. :yahoo:

China and Japan are only proven friends to Bangladesh. It's regretful to say that China is not intervening in current US-indo interference in destabilizing Bangladesh whereas China has the most development projects here compared to others.
 
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You are certainly a part of that hypocrite Indian bureaucracy! Good! But, do not prescribe a $10 billion Indian market for BD goods. BD is not that interested to enter that thorny market of India. Meanwhile, enjoy eating our bacteria-laden Hilsha fish.

It may be difficult for you to accept but BD is not really the top concern for most of us here.

I care a damn if it is a $1 billion or $10 billion market for you.
 
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Bangladesh produces very high quality bone china, excellent furniture, and a wide range of building materials. Its textiles are outstanding, and no serious effort has been made to promote these systematically, with any kind of segmentation, to the Indian market. There is a young but vigorous multi-media industry with enormous potential for servicing the constant hunger for content in the Indian media, specifically, the entertainment media (costs are 15% lower than in India). Its IT skills are comparable to India or to Pakistan, but, as mentioned, costs remain competitive. Opportunities to convert their burgeoning talent are immense; it is unfortunate that these opportunities are so often the target of lunatics who see everything through religious filters.

Thanks for your admiration over our products. Sorry, I personally don't believe in a religion but I hate india and there's no third hand for growing this hatred towards india, it's india itself. So, please be careful in making comments this way. I found you having some respect for Bangladesh, this is why I'm commenting on your quotes otherwise I generally don't do this with most indian.
 
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Thanks for your admiration over our products. Sorry, I personally don't believe in a religion but I hate india and there's no third hand for growing this hatred towards india, it's india itself. So, please be careful in making comments this way. I found you having some respect for Bangladesh, this is why I'm commenting on your quotes otherwise I generally don't do this with most indian.

I was very pleased to read your frank and forthright statement of your views.

The fact is that I hate religious bigots, whether they are located in India, in Pakistan or in Bangladesh. Nothing personal, it's just that their bigotry is hateful and against humanity.

I like Bangladesh, and I respect Bangladeshis (please note the difference; there are a few Bangladeshis whom I like, but they are most unlikely to turn up here). But if a religious bigot interferes, my hatred comes out foremost. Further, India is my country. It is not perfect; I am engaged in almost daily battles on PDF and elsewhere with religious bigots and Islamophobes, but anybody saying hostile or insulting things about my country might have to spend some time and energy defending himself.

In most cases, I do not comment. Since you have commented on what I wrote, I am making my own position very clear. Good luck and goodbye.
 
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