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Bangladesh proposes procurement of high-end military equipment from US

https://southasianmonitor.com/bangl...ttack-helicopters-transport-aircraft-from-us/

Note the date of the article.

Seems it was credible given the official word more recently.

So perhaps the rest of the article is credible as well especially the bit about the F-16 Block 50/52, AIM-9X and the reluctance of the US to release AMRAAM to Bangladesh.

Bangladesh seeks Apache attack helicopters, transport aircraft from US

August 25, 2019

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The Bangladesh Air Force is seeking to procure new Apache AH-64E attack helicopters and refurbished C-130H transport aircraft from the US through a government-to-government deal.

Negotiations are scheduled to be held between the defence officials of the two countries later this year.

Earlier the US offered to sell F-16C/D Block 50/52 Plus fighter aircraft with AIM-9X Short-Range Air-to-Air Missiles however the Bangladesh Air Force declined to purchase the aircraft without a full weapons package required to utilise the maximum capability of the combat aircraft.

The Bangladesh Air Force took up a plan to purchase 8 highly capable attack helicopters initially followed by additional units in future. Turkish-built T-129 and Russian Mi-35M were considered to be front contenders but the offer from the US trumped all competitors.

It is also seeking to purchase at least C-130H after the US counterparts informed they were unable to supply refurbished C-130J. This forced the Bangladesh Air Force to purchase 5 refurbished and upgraded C-130J Mk5 transport aircraft from the Royal Air Force (United Kingdom).

If the US fails to provide at least two C-130H transport aircraft to the Bangladesh Air Force steps will be taken to procure additional units from the UK once again.

Meanwhile the first C-130J upgraded by Marshall Aerospace & Defence Group is set to arrive in Bangladesh on the 24th of this month.

The Bangladesh Air Force has wholly revitalised its transport aircraft fleet with modern aircraft purchased from Western countries. It is planning to transform the fighter and helicopter fleets too with more modern Western platforms in the coming years.

The US government has asked Bangladesh Armed Forces to purchase more American made defence equipment. Bangladesh has agreed to purchase those provided prices are acceptable and without conditions.

Bangladesh and USA are both seeking closer defence ties to ensure mutual interests are upheld.

This week Bangladesh’s state owned Biman airlines inducted its third Boeing 787 Dreamliner passenger aircraft purchased newly from the US under a 10-aircraft deal worth $2.1 billion. Four Boeing 777-300ER, two 737-800 and three 787-8 have already been delivered under the 2008 deal. A fourth Boeing 878-8 airliner will be added to Biman’s fleet next month.

The national airlines has also been tasked with purchasing two cargo aircraft to facilitate rapid import-export of products. Bangladesh Airlines (Biman) is expanding with new routes including a non-stop flight to New York.

About AH-64E attack helicopter

Formerly known as AH-64D Block III, in 2012, it was redesignated as AH-64E Guardian to represent its increased capabilities. The AH-64E features improved digital connectivity, the Joint Tactical Information Distribution System, more powerful T700-GE-701D engines with upgraded face gear transmission to accommodate more power, capability to control unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), full IFR capability, and improved landing gear. New composite rotor blades, which successfully completed testing in 2004, increase cruise speed, climb rate, and payload capacity. Deliveries began in November 2011. Full-rate production was approved on 24 October 2012, with 634 AH-64Ds to be upgraded to AH-64E standard and production of 56 new-build AH-64Es to start in 2019/20. Changes in production lots 4 through 6 shall include a cognitive decision aiding system and new self-diagnostic abilities. The updated Longbow radar has an oversea capacity, potentially enabling naval strikes; an AESA radar is under consideration. The E model is to be fit for maritime operations. Extended-range fuel tanks can also be added to the AH-64E to further increase range and endurance. A Link 16 tactical data link is also availed.

Indonesia purchased eight Apache AH-64E Guardians under the U.S. Foreign Military Sales program in September 2012, along with associated equipment and spares that included the Northrop Grumman AN/APG-78 Longbow Fire Control Radar and 140 Lockheed Martin AGM-114R3 anti-tank missiles, for an estimated total value of $1.42 billion. The helicopters were delivered in 2017.

Technical Specifications for AH-64 (A/D):

General characteristics

Crew: 2 (pilot, and co-pilot/gunner)

Length: 58.17 ft (17.73 m) (with both rotors turning)

Rotor diameter: 48 ft 0 in (14.63 m)

Height: 12.7 ft (3.87 m)

Disc area: 1,809.5 ft² (168.11 m²)

Empty weight: 11,387 lb (5,165 kg)

Loaded weight: 17,650 lb (8,000 kg)

Max. takeoff weight: 23,000 lb (10,433 kg)

Fuselage length: 49 ft 5 in (15.06 m)

Rotor systems: 4 blade main rotor, 4 blade tail rotor in non-orthogonal alignment

Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700-GE-701 turboshafts, 1,690 shp (1,260 kW) [upgraded to T700-GE-701C (for AH-64A/D from 1990), 1,890 shp (1,409 kW)] each

Performance

Never exceed speed: 197 knots (227 mph, 365 km/h)

Maximum speed: 158 knots (182 mph, 293 km/h)

Cruise speed: 143 knots (165 mph, 265 km/h)

Range: 257 nmi (295 mi, 476 km) with Longbow radar mast

Combat radius: 260 nmi (300 mi, 480 km)

Ferry range: 1,024 nmi (1,180 mi, 1,900 km)

Service ceiling: 21,000 ft (6,400 m) minimum loaded

Rate of climb: 2,500 ft/min (12.7 m/s)

Disc loading: 9.80 lb/ft² (47.9 kg/m²)

Power/mass: 0.18 hp/lb (0.31 kW/kg)

Armament Guns: 1×30 mm (1.18 in) M230 Chain Gun with 1,200 rounds as part of the Area Weapon Subsystem
 
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https://southasianmonitor.com/bangl...ttack-helicopters-transport-aircraft-from-us/

Note the date of the article.

Seems it was credible given the official word more recently.

So perhaps the rest of the article is credible as well especially the bit about the F-16 Block 50/52, AIM-9X and the reluctance of the US to release AMRAAM to Bangladesh.

Bangladesh seeks Apache attack helicopters, transport aircraft from US

August 25, 2019

apache_us.jpg
The Bangladesh Air Force is seeking to procure new Apache AH-64E attack helicopters and refurbished C-130H transport aircraft from the US through a government-to-government deal.

Negotiations are scheduled to be held between the defence officials of the two countries later this year.

Earlier the US offered to sell F-16C/D Block 50/52 Plus fighter aircraft with AIM-9X Short-Range Air-to-Air Missiles however the Bangladesh Air Force declined to purchase the aircraft without a full weapons package required to utilise the maximum capability of the combat aircraft.

The Bangladesh Air Force took up a plan to purchase 8 highly capable attack helicopters initially followed by additional units in future. Turkish-built T-129 and Russian Mi-35M were considered to be front contenders but the offer from the US trumped all competitors.

It is also seeking to purchase at least C-130H after the US counterparts informed they were unable to supply refurbished C-130J. This forced the Bangladesh Air Force to purchase 5 refurbished and upgraded C-130J Mk5 transport aircraft from the Royal Air Force (United Kingdom).

If the US fails to provide at least two C-130H transport aircraft to the Bangladesh Air Force steps will be taken to procure additional units from the UK once again.

Meanwhile the first C-130J upgraded by Marshall Aerospace & Defence Group is set to arrive in Bangladesh on the 24th of this month.

The Bangladesh Air Force has wholly revitalised its transport aircraft fleet with modern aircraft purchased from Western countries. It is planning to transform the fighter and helicopter fleets too with more modern Western platforms in the coming years.

The US government has asked Bangladesh Armed Forces to purchase more American made defence equipment. Bangladesh has agreed to purchase those provided prices are acceptable and without conditions.

Bangladesh and USA are both seeking closer defence ties to ensure mutual interests are upheld.

This week Bangladesh’s state owned Biman airlines inducted its third Boeing 787 Dreamliner passenger aircraft purchased newly from the US under a 10-aircraft deal worth $2.1 billion. Four Boeing 777-300ER, two 737-800 and three 787-8 have already been delivered under the 2008 deal. A fourth Boeing 878-8 airliner will be added to Biman’s fleet next month.

The national airlines has also been tasked with purchasing two cargo aircraft to facilitate rapid import-export of products. Bangladesh Airlines (Biman) is expanding with new routes including a non-stop flight to New York.

About AH-64E attack helicopter

Formerly known as AH-64D Block III, in 2012, it was redesignated as AH-64E Guardian to represent its increased capabilities. The AH-64E features improved digital connectivity, the Joint Tactical Information Distribution System, more powerful T700-GE-701D engines with upgraded face gear transmission to accommodate more power, capability to control unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), full IFR capability, and improved landing gear. New composite rotor blades, which successfully completed testing in 2004, increase cruise speed, climb rate, and payload capacity. Deliveries began in November 2011. Full-rate production was approved on 24 October 2012, with 634 AH-64Ds to be upgraded to AH-64E standard and production of 56 new-build AH-64Es to start in 2019/20. Changes in production lots 4 through 6 shall include a cognitive decision aiding system and new self-diagnostic abilities. The updated Longbow radar has an oversea capacity, potentially enabling naval strikes; an AESA radar is under consideration. The E model is to be fit for maritime operations. Extended-range fuel tanks can also be added to the AH-64E to further increase range and endurance. A Link 16 tactical data link is also availed.

Indonesia purchased eight Apache AH-64E Guardians under the U.S. Foreign Military Sales program in September 2012, along with associated equipment and spares that included the Northrop Grumman AN/APG-78 Longbow Fire Control Radar and 140 Lockheed Martin AGM-114R3 anti-tank missiles, for an estimated total value of $1.42 billion. The helicopters were delivered in 2017.

Technical Specifications for AH-64 (A/D):

General characteristics

Crew: 2 (pilot, and co-pilot/gunner)

Length: 58.17 ft (17.73 m) (with both rotors turning)

Rotor diameter: 48 ft 0 in (14.63 m)

Height: 12.7 ft (3.87 m)

Disc area: 1,809.5 ft² (168.11 m²)

Empty weight: 11,387 lb (5,165 kg)

Loaded weight: 17,650 lb (8,000 kg)

Max. takeoff weight: 23,000 lb (10,433 kg)

Fuselage length: 49 ft 5 in (15.06 m)

Rotor systems: 4 blade main rotor, 4 blade tail rotor in non-orthogonal alignment

Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700-GE-701 turboshafts, 1,690 shp (1,260 kW) [upgraded to T700-GE-701C (for AH-64A/D from 1990), 1,890 shp (1,409 kW)] each

Performance

Never exceed speed: 197 knots (227 mph, 365 km/h)

Maximum speed: 158 knots (182 mph, 293 km/h)

Cruise speed: 143 knots (165 mph, 265 km/h)

Range: 257 nmi (295 mi, 476 km) with Longbow radar mast

Combat radius: 260 nmi (300 mi, 480 km)

Ferry range: 1,024 nmi (1,180 mi, 1,900 km)

Service ceiling: 21,000 ft (6,400 m) minimum loaded

Rate of climb: 2,500 ft/min (12.7 m/s)

Disc loading: 9.80 lb/ft² (47.9 kg/m²)

Power/mass: 0.18 hp/lb (0.31 kW/kg)

Armament Guns: 1×30 mm (1.18 in) M230 Chain Gun with 1,200 rounds as part of the Area Weapon Subsystem
Rest assured BAF will never buy any American jets without BVR.It'll be suicide for them as all of our adversaries are operating BVR capable jets.

without conditions
This is the most important part.

Also, 8 Apaches for 1.42 billions? That's more or less as expensive as a fighter jet.I don't think we have this much purchasing power unless there's a loan or if we manage to convince them let us pay over say, 10 years.
 
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Why bangladesh copy pak procurement

Don’t be stupid.

Rest assured BAF will never buy any American jets without BVR.It'll be suicide for them as all of our adversaries are operating BVR capable jets.


This is the most important part.

Also, 8 Apaches for 1.42 billions? That's more or less as expensive as a fighter jet.I don't think we have this much purchasing power unless there's a loan or if we manage to convince them let us pay over say, 10 years.

Uncle Sam can make it affordable.

It’s just a matter if they want you to have it or not.

Also, AMRAAM is KEY!
 
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once usa sells us apache and f16 then our armed forces is under there control
any future purchase we do from china and russia it will has effect or have to be cautious
 
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calling it right now they're gonna get F16s and the paint scheme will be based on BAF F6 jets
 
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Instead, they should talk to China or even the Russians and focus on building their indigenous capability in the same vein as Pakistan.
Bangladesh was very much interested about them to build a stronger bond like you guys did.

But neither China nor Russia showed us that honor we deserve. They voted against Bangladesh over and over against Rohingya issue. So perhaps that's the reason Bangladesh is searching for another option for military.

Specially after 26 September UNHRC resolution only two countries voted against Bangladesh and China is one of them. The other one is Philippines. Tell me if Pakistan was in the place of Bangladesh, would you still wanted to rely on them?
@blain2

Why does Bangladesh need these toys?
Because Bangladeshi Muslims are not Hindus as you ( Rusty) think. So they need to counter Hindutva sanghis attack in a certain point of time, so they need better equipment.
 
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Bangladesh was very much interested about them to build a stronger bond like you guys did.

But neither China nor Russia showed us that honor we deserve. They voted against Bangladesh over and over against Rohingya issue. So perhaps that's the reason Bangladesh is searching for another option for military.

Specially after 26 September UNHRC resolution only two countries voted against Bangladesh and China is one of them. The other one is Philippines. Tell me if Pakistan was in the place of Bangladesh, would you still wanted to rely on them?
@blain2


Because Bangladeshi Muslims are not Hindus as you ( Rusty) think. So they need to counter Hindutva sanghis in a certain point of time, so they need better equipment.

I'm not trying to troll but has Bangladesh ever done anything that would make India unhappy with Hassina in charge?

She has 98% of the vote, she gives India everything they want, so why would India ever do anything to Bangladesh?
 
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I'm not trying to troll but has Bangladesh ever done anything that would make India unhappy with Hassina in charge?
Firstly Hasina is not eternal. Secondly Hasina is not Indian stooge as you guys try to say. Thirdly Hasina is cleaning her own house AL alongside administration just to prevent another 1/11 and she herself declared it. So it's clear that even Hasina knows that she can not prevent another one eleven if military really started to move.

So you guys ( alongside our Bangladeshi idiots who really believe that military is sub servient to civil administration) probably guess that since the extreme corruption can cause another 1/11, so if Hasina or anyone really signed a deal with India that severely goes against the interest of Bangladesh, then military will not be sitting in barracks to suc.k goat dick. But they will surely start moving and take over in order to save mother Bangladesh.

And in order to save the mother Bangladesh, her brave children need sophisticated equipment. That's why Bangladesh is seeking for better equipment.

She has 98% of the vote, she gives India everything they want, so why would India ever do anything to Bangladesh?
By the way from where you got the information that she has 98% vote? It's a failure of democracy specially FPTP voting system that even with 30% or even less vote you can get all seats ( theorically), so people believe that they have 100% vote!
 
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Yep get your facts right @Rusty it was 82% popular vote result with about 95% seats won.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Bangladeshi_general_election

Its a very credible result obviously. Nothing to see there, move along.

Please believe every other number such a credible govt puts out regarding its internal socioeconomics and grand existential bongocaust of "3 million"....no matter how much the reality manifested outside their realm of control is like.
 
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Firstly Hasina is not eternal. Secondly Hasina is not Indian stooge as you guys try to say. Thirdly Hasina is cleaning her own house AL alongside administration just to prevent another 1/11 and she herself declared it. So it's clear that even Hasina knows that she can not prevent another one eleven if military really started to move.

So you guys ( alongside our Bangladeshi idiots who really believe that military is sub servient to civil administration) probably guess that since the extreme corruption can cause another 1/11, so if Hasina or anyone really signed a deal with India that severely goes against the interest of Bangladesh, then military will not be sitting in barracks to suc.king goat dick. But they will surely start moving and take over in order to save mother Bangladesh.

And in order to save the mother Bangladesh, her brave children need sophisticated equipment. That's why Bangladesh is seeking for better equipment.


By the way from where you got the information that she has 98% vote? It's a failure of democracy specially FPTP voting system that even with 30% or even less vote you can get all seats ( theorically), so people believe that they have 100% vote!


Go to around the 2:30 mark

AL won 288 seats to 7 for the opposition

As for the rest, I don't really know much about internal politics of Bangladesh, all unknown is that Hassina is lock and step with modi on all things India-bangladesh related. Including her tacit approval of the genocide in Kashmir ( as she gave modi breathing room in UNGA by mentioning Pakistan for no reason what so ever).

So if what you are saying is true then a strong military is a threat her.
 
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Including her tacit approval of the genocide in Kashmir ( as she gave modi breathing room in UNGA by mentioning Pakistan for no reason what so ever).
So what? Pakistan sold aircraft to Myanmar when they were performing genocide on Rohingyas. Both Pakistan and Hasina never say a single word against the Chinese classic torture of Uighur Muslims!

So Hasina and Pakistan both are equally guilty. I would say they are just two sides of one coin!

We will not go further to discuss about our middle eastern belt who openly honored the neo Hitler Modi with their highest medals, because just want to limit it in South Asia for now.
We should speak about how our peoples reacted on kashmir issue and your people reacted on Rohingya issue. Both reaction was positive, doesn't matter what our govt do!
So if what you are saying is true then a strong military is a threat her.
I will not comment further, as I can't provide you evidences. So let's exclude military stuff.
 
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So what? Pakistan sold aircraft to Myanmar when they were performing genocide on Rohingyas.

So Hasina and Pakistan both are equally guilty.

We will not go further to discuss about our middle eastern belt who openly honored the neo Hitler Modi with their highest medals, because just want to limit it in South Asia for now.

You accused me of calling you guys Hindus.
Well now you know why.

No Pakistani is here defending Myanmars genocide of the rohingyas, like you are of the genocide of Kashmir
 
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