Bangladesh Navy

[Bilal9]

Two types of BCGS Vessel Class builds progressing at DEW Narayanganj for anti-piracy, anti-smuggling, anti-human-trafficking and drug interdiction use....

First of two Fast Patrol Vessels (43m, 235 tons, 25+ knots, Operable Up to Sea State 4, Survivable up to sea state 6, CCS Class), and we need to call housekeeping pronto....

First of two Inshore Patrol Vessels (52m, 297 tons, 25+ knots, Operable Up to Sea State 4, Survivable up to sea state 6, CCS Class), This lead ship has been named 'BCGS Shobuj Bangla'......eventually there will be eight of this IPV class in total.....

As can be seen - weapons fitment hasn't been completed but will include,

2 × Oerlikon KBA 25mm Gun
2 × 14.5mm Gun

These 'Shobuj Bangla class' IPVs will slot below the Four Minerva class (BCGS Leader class) OPV vessels, and above the FPB's shown further above. BCGS will also get some ex-navy vessels as they are de-commissioned.

Other future new-builds for BCGS will include two larger (1500~2000 ton range) supply/replenishment vessels placed further offshore to increase the patrol range for the OPV's. This will help the OPV's decrease fishing and piracy crimes.

https://www.albd.org/index.php/en/u...o-giving-blue-economy-concept-into-reality-pm

 

[Arthur]

Two types of BCGS Vessel Class builds progressing at DEW Narayanganj for anti-piracy, anti-smuggling, anti-human-trafficking and drug interdiction use....

First of two Fast Patrol Vessels (43m, 235 tons, 25+ knots, Operable Up to Sea State 4, Survivable up to sea state 6, CCS Class), and we need to call housekeeping pronto....

First of two Inshore Patrol Vessels (52m, 297 tons, 25+ knots, Operable Up to Sea State 4, Survivable up to sea state 6, CCS Class), This lead ship has been named 'BCGS Shobuj Bangla'......eventually there will be eight of this IPV class in total.....

As can be seen - weapons fitment hasn't been completed but will include,

2 × Oerlikon KBA 25mm Gun
2 × 14.5mm Gun

These 'Shobuj Bangla class' IPVs will slot below the Four Minerva class (BCGS Leader class) OPV vessels, and above the FPB's shown further above. BCGS will also get some ex-navy vessels as they are de-commissioned.

Other future new-builds for BCGS will include two larger (1500~2000 ton range) supply/replenishment vessels placed further offshore to increase the patrol range for the OPV's. This will help the OPV's decrease fishing and piracy crimes.

https://www.albd.org/index.php/en/u...o-giving-blue-economy-concept-into-reality-pm

They looks like to be little modified Padma Class patrol vessel.

 

[Bilal9]

They looks like to be little modified Padma Class patrol vessel.

The hull shape of the 'Padma class' is different and I'd say not as sleek as the 'Shobuj Bangla class'. Length of hull is a bit shorter at 50m but yes, displacement is a bit more at 350 tons. Superstructure is a lot smaller for Padma (patrol range is likely shorter with not as much accommodation for personnel needed), and of course sensors for it are more sophisticated, as expected.....Arms fit is definitely heavier for Padma class (including more firepower and ManPads) and it specializes in Navy tasks like mine-laying etc.

 

[Ideas_R_Bulletproof]

The hull shape of the 'Padma class' is different and I'd say not as sleek as the 'Shobuj Bangla class'. Length of hull is a bit shorter at 50m but yes, displacement is same at 350 tons. Superstructure is a lot smaller for Padma (patrol range is shorter with not as much accommodation for personnel needed), and of course sensors for it are more sophisticated, as expected.....Arms fit is definitely heavier for Padma class (including ManPads) and it specializes in Navy tasks like mine-laying etc.

weapons fits cannot be a real difference.... they can at best be termed as versions of the same design....
these are the same ships actually.... 50.40m length.... 300ton (plus-mius) diplacement....

they are being mass-produced.... we need a lot more of these, as older ships go to the scrapyard....
see, how many ships need to be replaced.... and add to that the extras you need for the extra duties put on top due to a larger economy and population....

smaller boats (30m to 50m; coastal) -
8 Shanghai-class (30+ years; some retired)
4 Chamsuri-class (30+ years)
2 Kraljevica-class (60+ years)
5 Pabna-class (40+ years)

5 Type 21 missile/patrol boats (almost 30 years)
4 Type 24 missile boats (retired)

larger boats (45m to 60m; ocean-going) -
1 Type 37-class (30+ years)
4 River-class (30+ years)
6 Island-class (40+ years)
2 Meghna-class (30+ years)

in total, around 28 smaller boats and 13 larger boats need to be replaced just to keep the current posture....
and to build a bigger force, a lot more needs to be done....

so, this highlights the amount of shipbuilding effort that needs to be put in within the next 3-5 years....

 

[Arthur]

weapons fits cannot be a real difference.... they can at best be termed as versions of the same design....
these are the same ships actually.... 50.40m length.... 300ton (plus-mius) diplacement....

they are being mass-produced.... we need a lot more of these, as older ships go to the scrapyard....
see, how many ships need to be replaced.... and add to that the extras you need for the extra duties put on top due to a larger economy and population....

smaller boats (30m to 50m; coastal) -
8 Shanghai-class (30+ years; some retired)
4 Chamsuri-class (30+ years)
2 Kraljevica-class (60+ years)
5 Pabna-class (40+ years)

5 Type 21 missile/patrol boats (almost 30 years)
4 Type 24 missile boats (retired)

larger boats (45m to 60m; ocean-going) -
1 Type 37-class (30+ years)
4 River-class (30+ years)
6 Island-class (40+ years)
2 Meghna-class (30+ years)

in total, around 28 smaller boats and 13 larger boats need to be replaced just to keep the current posture....
and to build a bigger force, a lot more needs to be done....

so, this highlights the amount of shipbuilding effort that needs to be put in within the next 3-5 years....

This is the estimated number of new ships that will be built & inducted -

25 Padma Class
8 Durhoy Class LPC
8 Shadhinota Class Corvette
8 4000 ton Class Frigates
Total 49 ships.

These are just the surface combatants fleet, we are also building & inducting many fleet replenishment ships,survey vessels, auxiliary & support ships; Submarines & aircrafts.

By 2030 when these modernisation drive settles down, BN will be a very capable force with a completely brand new, stream lined & modern fleet.
As BN aims for an 150 strong fleet, next 10-15 year is very crucial.

 

[Ideas_R_Bulletproof]

This is the estimated number of new ships that will be built & inducted -

25 Padma Class
8 Durhoy Class LPC
8 Shadhinota Class Corvette
8 4000 ton Class Frigates
Total 49 ships.

By 2030 when these modernisation drive settles down, BN will ne capable force with a completely brand new & modern fleet.
As BN aims for an 150 strong fleet, next 10-15 year os very crucial.

good points indeed....
yet, the pace of shipbuilding needs to move up.... replacement ships can only fill gaps left open, when the previous force was not even nearly enough.... I have listed 41 ships above that would have to be scrapped within the next 10 years to even less.... some are already retired or mothballed...

we can't build a larger force if we just plug gaps left open by scrapped ships....
the pace has to be doubled.... I would like to see the Padma-class hull multiplied involving more shipyards.... let KSY concentrate on model ships.... then let other shipyards get the subcontracting.... KSY would lead there and use others' infrastructure to build those smaller vessels....

in the meantime, KSY can concentrate on building larger ships at new yards that are being built at Joymonirkhol and Payra.... DEWN can concentrate on smaller boats, like aluminium-hull and composite-hull....

auxiliary vessels can also be subcontracted to other shipyards.... KSY can lead there too....

in summary, Bangladesh has way too much shipbuilding resource to be left under-utilized.... with that many ships required within such a short time, this resource needs to be utilized fast....

 

[Arthur]

good points indeed....
yet, the pace of shipbuilding needs to move up.... replacement ships can only fill gaps left open, when the previous force was not even nearly enough.... I have listed 41 ships above that would have to be scrapped within the next 10 years to even less.... some are already retired or mothballed...

we can't build a larger force if we just plug gaps left open by scrapped ships....
the pace has to be doubled.... I would like to see the Padma-class hull multiplied involving more shipyards.... let KSY concentrate on model ships.... then let other shipyards get the subcontracting.... KSY would lead there and use others' infrastructure to build those smaller vessels....

in the meantime, KSY can concentrate on building larger ships at new yards that are being built at Joymonirkhol and Payra.... DEWN can concentrate on smaller boats, like aluminium-hull and composite-hull....

auxiliary vessels can also be subcontracted to other shipyards.... KSY can lead there too....

in summary, Bangladesh has way too much shipbuilding resource to be left under-utilized.... with that many ships required within such a short time, this resource needs to be utilized fast....

DEWN has taken over the small PV construction. Also there is works going on to mordernise DEW itself & another shipyard will be constructed in Narayanganj for this purpose. Also Chittagong Shipyard & new shipyard in Payra as you mentioned.

I am not worried about just filling the gaps left by old ships, as the newer ships that are being inducted is technologically superior, in capabilities.

 

[Ideas_R_Bulletproof]

As I posted last year, yes, DEWN has taken over the small PV construction. Also there is works going on to mordernise DEW itself & another shipyard will be constructed in Narayanganj for this purpose.

thats good for DEWN.... but there are at least 20 shipyards in BD that are capable of building classified ships.... some have already built ships for security forces (local and foreign).... I was talking about utilizing those resources....

when Western Marine was building OPV for Kenya, Rear Adm (Ret) Khurshed Alam visited the shipyard and said why not build such ships for our country?

এ উপলক্ষে আয়োজিত এক অনুষ্ঠানে স্বাগত বক্তব্যে ডব্লিউএমএসের চেয়ারম্যান মো. সাইফুল ইসলাম বলেন, ‘ওয়েস্টার্ন মেরিন অফশোর প্যাট্রোল ভেসেলের মতো অত্যাধুনিক প্রযুক্তির জাহাজ নির্মাণ করেছে। এটা এ খাতে বাংলাদেশের দক্ষতা প্রমাণ করে। যে কোনো দেশের সমুদ্রসীমার নিরাপত্তায় নিয়োজিত এ ধরনের জাহাজ নির্মাণের মাধ্যমে ওয়েস্টার্ন মেরিন ভবিষ্যতে দেশের অর্থনীতিতে আরো বেশি অবদান রাখতে চায়।’

প্রধান অতিথির বক্তব্যে পররাষ্ট্র সচিব রিয়ার অ্যাডমিরাল (অব.) খুরশিদ আলম বলেন, ‘উপকূলবর্তী সীমানার নিরাপত্তা রক্ষার্থে বিদেশী রাষ্ট্রের জন্য অফশোর প্যাট্রোল তৈরি করে ওয়েস্টার্ন মেরিন এক নতুন উচ্চতায় পৌঁছবে।’ এ ধরনের জাহাজ নির্মাণের মাধ্যমে ওয়েস্টার্ন মেরিন বাংলাদেশ সরকারকেও সহায়তা করতে পারে বলে জানান তিনি।
http://bonikbarta.net/bangla/news/2...এমএস-পরিদর্শনে-ডেনমার্ক-কেনিয়ার-প্রতিনিধি-দল/

 

[Bilal9]

This is the estimated number of new ships that will be built & inducted -

25 Padma Class
8 Durhoy Class LPC
8 Shadhinota Class Corvette
8 4000 ton Class Frigates
Total 49 ships.

These are just the surface combatants fleet, we are also building & inducting many fleet replenishment ships,survey vessels, auxiliary & support ships; Submarines & aircrafts.

By 2030 when these modernisation drive settles down, BN will be a very capable force with a completely brand new, stream lined & modern fleet.
As BN aims for an 150 strong fleet, next 10-15 year is very crucial.

Five 350 ton Padma class vessels were built simultaneously at KSY over the span of a bit over 20 months -which is pretty fast, even for builds in first world countries or China. It is possible that they may repeat this feat there again, while also building further two 650 ton LPC builds..... The Padma Classes are built out in the open yard while the LPC's are built indoors in the fabrication hall.

Per a news report published earlier,

"Khulna Shipyard signed the construction contract with the Bangladesh Navy on 2 May 2010 and Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina inaugurated the construction on 5 March 2011. The first warship of this class, BNS Padma was launched on 8 October 2012 and commissioned into the Bangladesh Navy on 24 January 2013. The second patrol craft in the class, BNS Surma, was launched on 23 January 2013 and commissioned into the Bangladesh Navy on 29 August 2013. The other three ships BNS Aparajeya, BNS Adamya and BNS Atandra were handed over to the Bangladesh Navy on 15 December 2013. These three ships were commissioned on 23 December 2013. "

BNS Atandra (Padma Class) on patrol off shore

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=736800093027642

Bangladesh CGS Leader Class 1200 ton OPV random shots in Italy undergoing refurbishment....and dry dock getting a little <not dry>....

 

[TopCat]

This is the estimated number of new ships that will be built & inducted -

25 Padma Class
8 Durhoy Class LPC
8 Shadhinota Class Corvette
8 4000 ton Class Frigates
Total 49 ships.

These are just the surface combatants fleet, we are also building & inducting many fleet replenishment ships,survey vessels, auxiliary & support ships; Submarines & aircrafts.

By 2030 when these modernisation drive settles down, BN will be a very capable force with a completely brand new, stream lined & modern fleet.
As BN aims for an 150 strong fleet, next 10-15 year is very crucial.

We need to invest in ammunition and missiles now. We can save tons of money if we could produce some of them which have to be continuously replenished.

 

[Bilal9]

thats good for DEWN.... but there are at least 20 shipyards in BD that are capable of building classified ships.... some have already built ships for security forces (local and foreign).... I was talking about utilizing those resources....

when Western Marine was building OPV for Kenya, Rear Adm (Ret) Khurshed Alam visited the shipyard and said why not build such ships for our country?

এ উপলক্ষে আয়োজিত এক অনুষ্ঠানে স্বাগত বক্তব্যে ডব্লিউএমএসের চেয়ারম্যান মো. সাইফুল ইসলাম বলেন, ‘ওয়েস্টার্ন মেরিন অফশোর প্যাট্রোল ভেসেলের মতো অত্যাধুনিক প্রযুক্তির জাহাজ নির্মাণ করেছে। এটা এ খাতে বাংলাদেশের দক্ষতা প্রমাণ করে। যে কোনো দেশের সমুদ্রসীমার নিরাপত্তায় নিয়োজিত এ ধরনের জাহাজ নির্মাণের মাধ্যমে ওয়েস্টার্ন মেরিন ভবিষ্যতে দেশের অর্থনীতিতে আরো বেশি অবদান রাখতে চায়।’

প্রধান অতিথির বক্তব্যে পররাষ্ট্র সচিব রিয়ার অ্যাডমিরাল (অব.) খুরশিদ আলম বলেন, ‘উপকূলবর্তী সীমানার নিরাপত্তা রক্ষার্থে বিদেশী রাষ্ট্রের জন্য অফশোর প্যাট্রোল তৈরি করে ওয়েস্টার্ন মেরিন এক নতুন উচ্চতায় পৌঁছবে।’ এ ধরনের জাহাজ নির্মাণের মাধ্যমে ওয়েস্টার্ন মেরিন বাংলাদেশ সরকারকেও সহায়তা করতে পারে বলে জানান তিনি।
http://bonikbarta.net/bangla/news/2015-04-28/35235/ডব্লিউএমএস-পরিদর্শনে-ডেনমার্ক-কেনিয়ার-প্রতিনিধি-দল/

The design for the OPV was developed by Western Marine and it was built to Bureau Veritas classification. Designed to sail at a maximum speed of 35 knots, the vessel has a hybrid propulsion system comprising a controllable pitch propeller and dual water-jet system. This affords both fuel saving using a single prop-screw for normal operation as well as short sprints for chases using two maneuverable water-jets on each side.

The OPV will operate over a range of more than 1,500 nautical miles in the Indian Ocean off East Africa to ensure the safety of Kenyan flagged fishing vessels and features a helipad for operation of a 5-tonne helicopter.

Only reason this may be a bit of overkill for Bangladesh is that this single build cost around $20 million, which is quite a bit higher than what each Padma class cost our navy.

The pluses/minuses for Kenyan OPV is:

Pros:

1. Much faster than Padma class (uses water-jets) for 35 knot sprints
2. Features a heli-pad
3. Features longer endurance for longer patrols

Cons:

1. Too complicated a drive-train (use of water-jet may really not be needed in this small an OPV). And 35 knots may be overkill for dealing with the types of rogue/pirate boats encountered in Kenyan waters.
2. Too costly ($20 Million - my guess Padma class cost around $10~11 Million each at best)
3. Using two Padma classes instead of one of these affords more flexibility, less wear and tear etc......
4. Helipads in this small a vessel may be a waste
5. Involvement of middlemen like Danish shipwright firms in this build hiked up the cost, but Kenyan officials needed the Danes for some reason.....
6. BV classification is also overkill, CCS classification from China should have been fine.

 

[Arthur]

Too costly ($20 Million - my guess Padma class cost around $10~11 Million each at best)

padma class costs 30-35 Crore BDT. This figure was given by the then CNS. He said Padma class costs 30-35 crore opposed to 100 crore BDT to imports such a ship off the shelf.

Damn cheap, isn't it??

 

[Bilal9]

padma class costs 30-35 Crore BDT. This figure was given by the then CNS. He said Padma class costs 30-35 crore opposed to 100 crore BDT to imports such a ship off the shelf.

Damn cheap, isn't it??

Well - I was just making a guess at USD 10 million for the Padma Class, by your information then Tk. 35 crore = USD 4,233,000.00 or roughly $4.2 million. Yes quite a bit cheaper.

Kenyan-ra shombhoboto poisha kisu edik odik kore felsey. $20 million is quite high for their OPV. If we built this for our Navy it'd cost a lot less.

 

[Ideas_R_Bulletproof]

"Khulna Shipyard signed the construction contract with the Bangladesh Navy on 2 May 2010 and Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina inaugurated the construction on 5 March 2011. BNS Aparajeya, BNS Adamya and BNS Atandra were handed over to the Bangladesh Navy on 15 December 2013."

great post indeed.... great compilation of timelines....
yet, from job commissioning to ship commissioning (finishing whole class) is 3 years 8 months or 44 months....
from work start to ship commissioning is 2 years 10 months or 34 months....
that way, on an average one ship was delivered in every 7 to 9 months...... thats a good rate if you count the number of ships... yet, for a very uncomplicated ship like the Padma-class, it may be just about okay....

this isn't wartime yet.... so, to increase the speed of building, several yards can be employed simultaneously... that way, one ship doesn't need to wait the launching of another one.... I was actually talking of job distribution in my posts above....

The design for the OPV was developed by Western Marine

nope.... Western Marine doesn't design....
this ship was European designed and funded.... WMS just got the subcontracting job....
the cost was in the hands of the Europeans... they gave us the job...
a lot of Western Marine ships were designed in the UK, Singapore or even India...

The OPV features a helipad for operation of a 5-tonne helicopter.

Helipads in this small a vessel may be a waste

Only reason this may be a bit of overkill for Bangladesh is that this single build cost around $20 million, which is quite a bit higher than what each Padma class cost our navy.

this is the most important feature of the ship that differentiates with the ones we're building today....
the OPVs that we're likely to build, have to have helipads at least... in that case, cost would have to be revised...

Involvement of middlemen like Danish shipwright firms in this build hiked up the cost, but Kenyan officials needed the Danes for some reason.....

they donated the ship to the Kenyans.... so, their companies must do some profit... he he

 

[Bengal Tiger 71]

Bangladesh Navy may procure this giant after 2025.
Type 052C destroyer (Luyang II class)

Destroyer
Displacement: 7,000 tons
Length: 155.5 m (510 ft 2 in)
Beam: 17.2 m (56 ft 5 in)
Draught: 6.1 m (20 ft 0 in)
Propulsion:

• Combined diesel or gas
• 2 DN80 / 2 UGT25000 gas turbines each generating 24 MW / 28 MW and
• 2 MTU Friedrichshafen 12V 1163TB83 diesels each generating 5 MW

Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h; 37 mph)
Complement: 280
Sensors and
processing systems:

• H/LJG-346 multifunction active phased array radar
• Anti stealth H/LJQ-517B radar with Yagi antenna
• H/LJQ-364 low altitude and surface search radar
• H/LJQ-366 other-thee-horizon surface search & targeting radar
• H/LJP-349 fire control radar for close-in weapon systems
• H/LJP-344A phased array fire control radar for main gun
• H/SJD-9 active/passive sonar
• dipping sonar

Armament:

• 48 HHQ-9 long-range surface-to-air missiles
• 8 C-805 anti-ship / land attack cruise missiles or
• 8 HN-2 land attack cruise missiles[1] or
• 8 YJ-62 anti-ship / land attack cruise missiles
• 1 × Type 210 100 mm dual purpose gun
• 2 × 30mm Type 730 close-in weapons systems
• 6 torpedo tubes
• 4 × 18-tube decoy rocket launcher

Aircraft carried: 1 helicopter: Kamov Ka-27 or Harbin Z-9C ASW/SAR
Aviation facilities:

• Stern hangar
• Helicopter landing platform