Bangladesh Navy

[damiendehorn]

India is acting really pathetic regarding these 2 subs.

Wonder what their reaction will be when we aquire propper subs?

 

[mb444]

Tricky offer to Dhaka

SUJAN DUTTA

New Delhi, Jan. 11: India has offered to train Bangladesh navy crews in operating submarines after Dhaka recently acquired the first of two boats from Beijing.

India has also agreed to host Vietnamese air force pilots to train in advanced combat techniques on Sukhoi fighter jets. Both the Indian and Vietnamese air forces fly variants of the Sukhoi 30 combat jets.

But it is New Delhi's offer to host Bangladesh submarine crews at INS Satavahana, the Indian Navy submarine academy at Visakhapatnam that is a delicate matter.

Bangladesh's recent acquisition of a Chinese Ming-class Type 035B submarine was initially a surprise for countries in the Bay of Bengal region. Despite China being a reasonably consistent supplier of equipment to the Bangladesh military, Dhaka's acquisition of the first of two-Ming-class submarines was surprising for most countries around the Bay of Bengal region. This is the first time the Bangladesh Navy has acquired undersea combat capability.

The Ming-class submarines supplied to China were built in the 1990s and were refurbished before being given to Bangladesh under a three-year-old contract. China is also understood to have trained a small Bangladeshi crew, as part of the contract, at its submarine base in Hainan Island at the rim of the South China Sea.

The Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has over the years expanded its submarine fleet to more than 60, many of them the Type 093B nuclear-boats. This expansion has been accompanied by an increasing deployment of its warship flotillas, including submarines, in the Indian Ocean region in waters around India. The official reason cited by China is its prolonged deployment for intensive counter-piracy patrols in the Gulf of Aden and off the Horn of Africa.

But the Indian and US navies find little operational logic in the Chinese deployment of submarines - some of which have been nuclear-powered - for the stated task. Two submarines of the PLAN were known to have docked in a Pakistani port last year.

The Indian Navy has now proposed to host Bangladeshi crews who will operate the Chinese-built submarines at three of its schools in INS Satavahana: the Submarine Training School (SMS), the Escape Training School (ETS) and the School of Advanced Undersea Warfare (SAUW).

This is also where the Indian Navy has in the past hosted Vietnamese naval crew. Both the Indian and Vietnamese navies operate Russian-origin Kilo-class submarines.

An agreement to train Vietnamese fighter pilots in India was reached last month during talks led by the south east Asian nation's defence minister who was in New Delhi at the head of a 30-member delegation.

The two sides initially were planning for a team of Indian Air Force instructors to be deployed in Vietnam. But they then changed the plan and agreed that the Vietnamese pilots should be hosted at IAF bases.

India is also understood to be in talks with Vietnam to supply Akash medium-range surface-to-air missile (SAMs) systems. The SAMs - developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and now being inducted into the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force - have a range of 25km.

The DRDO claims they can intercept targets - such as incoming missiles - at a height of 20km after being activated.



https://www.telegraphindia.com/1170112/jsp/nation/story_129885.jsp

Whatever you say about Indians they do have dream...... the BN will send their d grade recruits to the Indians who will never come near our subs in their career

 

[bd_4_ever]

Tricky offer to Dhaka

SUJAN DUTTA

New Delhi, Jan. 11: India has offered to train Bangladesh navy crews in operating submarines after Dhaka recently acquired the first of two boats from Beijing.

India has also agreed to host Vietnamese air force pilots to train in advanced combat techniques on Sukhoi fighter jets. Both the Indian and Vietnamese air forces fly variants of the Sukhoi 30 combat jets.

But it is New Delhi's offer to host Bangladesh submarine crews at INS Satavahana, the Indian Navy submarine academy at Visakhapatnam that is a delicate matter.

Bangladesh's recent acquisition of a Chinese Ming-class Type 035B submarine was initially a surprise for countries in the Bay of Bengal region. Despite China being a reasonably consistent supplier of equipment to the Bangladesh military, Dhaka's acquisition of the first of two-Ming-class submarines was surprising for most countries around the Bay of Bengal region. This is the first time the Bangladesh Navy has acquired undersea combat capability.

The Ming-class submarines supplied to China were built in the 1990s and were refurbished before being given to Bangladesh under a three-year-old contract. China is also understood to have trained a small Bangladeshi crew, as part of the contract, at its submarine base in Hainan Island at the rim of the South China Sea.

The Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has over the years expanded its submarine fleet to more than 60, many of them the Type 093B nuclear-boats. This expansion has been accompanied by an increasing deployment of its warship flotillas, including submarines, in the Indian Ocean region in waters around India. The official reason cited by China is its prolonged deployment for intensive counter-piracy patrols in the Gulf of Aden and off the Horn of Africa.

But the Indian and US navies find little operational logic in the Chinese deployment of submarines - some of which have been nuclear-powered - for the stated task. Two submarines of the PLAN were known to have docked in a Pakistani port last year.

The Indian Navy has now proposed to host Bangladeshi crews who will operate the Chinese-built submarines at three of its schools in INS Satavahana: the Submarine Training School (SMS), the Escape Training School (ETS) and the School of Advanced Undersea Warfare (SAUW).

This is also where the Indian Navy has in the past hosted Vietnamese naval crew. Both the Indian and Vietnamese navies operate Russian-origin Kilo-class submarines.

An agreement to train Vietnamese fighter pilots in India was reached last month during talks led by the south east Asian nation's defence minister who was in New Delhi at the head of a 30-member delegation.

The two sides initially were planning for a team of Indian Air Force instructors to be deployed in Vietnam. But they then changed the plan and agreed that the Vietnamese pilots should be hosted at IAF bases.

India is also understood to be in talks with Vietnam to supply Akash medium-range surface-to-air missile (SAMs) systems. The SAMs - developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and now being inducted into the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force - have a range of 25km.

The DRDO claims they can intercept targets - such as incoming missiles - at a height of 20km after being activated.



https://www.telegraphindia.com/1170112/jsp/nation/story_129885.jsp

Lolwut!

Our crews and submariners have been trained for years. They undertook training in Turkey, China before these 2nd hand subs were purchased. Why on earth would they need to go to India after the submarines have arrived and Chinese officials around doing their work?

 

[TopCat]

Lolwut!

Our crews and submariners have been trained for years. They undertook training in Turkey, China before these 2nd hand subs were purchased. Why on earth would they need to go to India after the submarines have arrived and Chinese officials around doing their work?

Indians believe that they could convince some of the trainee to work as a mole for them.

 

[bd_4_ever]

Indians believe that they could convince some of the trainee to work as a mole for them.

 

[Nilgiri]

Lolwut!

Our crews and submariners have been trained for years. They undertook training in Turkey, China before these 2nd hand subs were purchased. Why on earth would they need to go to India after the submarines have arrived and Chinese officials around doing their work?

Read up on what a perisher course is first, why it is important beyond basic sub training and the few countries that are capable of providing this training with western course structure for IOR specifically (and why specific oceans even matter in the first place).

Hint: Not China.

 

[asad71]

Will BN send their people to a Navy famous for having ships self-exploding at berth? And will we, conservative Muslims, like to mingle with officers whose favorite past-time is wife-swapping?

 

[damiendehorn]

India has very little to offer, just training. Though considering these are Chinese subs we probably will be provided training in China as part of the contract. There is nothing india can sell/provide we would want to buy.

 

[Avicenna]

India is just concerned that Bangladesh is coming into the Chinese sphere of influence. This is India trying to respond by trying to be "chalak".

Bangladesh is a speck. It currently and for the long term future does not pose any kind of threat to India. Yet India is thinking way too much about BN getting two old Mings. Its pathetic. Just like when India cries about Pakistan getting 8 F-16s from the US.

 

[Michael Corleone]

India is just concerned that Bangladesh is coming into the Chinese sphere of influence. This is India trying to respond by trying to be "chalak".

Bangladesh is a speck. It currently and for the long term future does not pose any kind of threat to India. Yet India is thinking way too much about BN getting two old Mings. Its pathetic. Just like when India cries about Pakistan getting 8 F-16s from the US.

Shithorses they are. No offense but when you claim to be mighty af... why are you so scared of so called pesky bees in your eyes... aka Pakistan and Bangladesh.
They always shit their pants but boast a lot.

 

[Bilal9]

India is just concerned that Bangladesh is coming into the Chinese sphere of influence. This is India trying to respond by trying to be "chalak".

Bangladesh is a speck. It currently and for the long term future does not pose any kind of threat to India. Yet India is thinking way too much about BN getting two old Mings. Its pathetic. Just like when India cries about Pakistan getting 8 F-16s from the US.

Indian govt. is not really concerned about Bangladesh' submarines in spite of the 'publicized' noise they make.

They are however concerned that the submarine bases in Bangladesh might be used by the Chinese to host larger Chinese nuclear 'Attack' or 'Ballistic Missile' subs (SSGN or SSBN), such as 'Shang' (Type 093) or 'Jin' classes, which may start patrolling in the Bay of Bengal. Those subs are far larger than the Ming and may host sophisticated listening devices to listen in on Indian Naval activity in the 'BoB'.

Indians claim that the Chinese are trying to 'encircle' India militarily. If you asked me - I'd be puzzled about what the Chinese would 'gain' by encircling or threatening India. The whole subcontinent is one huge dump anyway.

Plus India has publicly stated 'No First Use' policy on Nuclear missile launches.

Chinese SSGN's don't need to re-fuel in Bangladesh (unlike Diesel SSK subs) because they have unlimited nuclear fuel for years of patrolling. They just need to replenish provisions (like food and water).

SHANG SSGNs feature a vertical launch system (VLS) and may be able to fire the YJ-18 advanced anti-ship cruise missile (ASCM). Over the next decade, China will construct a new Type 095 nuclear-powered, guided missile attack submarine (SSGN), which not only would improve the PLAN’s anti-surface warfare capability but might also provide it with a more clandestine land-attack option.”

Type 093 is comparable to the US Los Angeles class sub. Improved Type 095 is already replacing Shang 093 class.

About six days ago - there was a huge brouhaha in Indian Media about the Type 093 Shang class sub (7000 tonnes displacement) found to be docked in Karachi harbor some six months ago. Typically Indian media goes ape-sh*t about this type of news.....

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/chin...seen-at-karachi-too-close-for-comfort-1645798

The Americans are also raising alarm, but not over the Bay of Bengal. Chinese sub force may exceed American SSGN's in both quality and quantity.

https://tiananmenstremendousachieve...ear-chinas-new-093b-nuclear-attack-submarine/

 

[Nilgiri]

Shithorses they are. No offense but when you claim to be mighty af... why are you so scared of so called pesky bees in your eyes... aka Pakistan and Bangladesh.
They always shit their pants but boast a lot.

Dont equate Bangladesh with Pakistan lol. You are absolutely nothing to us militarily, not even a bee....more like a fly.

People with whipped and totally controlled PM's shouldn't squeal about who they think are mighty and who crap their pants.

Never compare yourselves to Pakistan. They are a worthy adversary with nuclear weapons.

You on the other hand are nothing more than a defeated, polarised and totally subservient country living off our disinterest and scrap margins.

Now watch your "navy" (stress on the inverted commas) handover your chinese tin cans for a thorough inspection in the guise of training exchange to Dada. SHW will demand it to entertain the Dada that takes care of her.

Its the reason why China wouldnt give you anything important tin-can wise even if you could afford it.

You betrayed their actual ally in 1971....so they arent going to give you anything anytime soon that matters in an actual conflict.

General ignorance of so called BD defence folk is also highlighted by not one response to my previous post.

Quite reflective of their "military" too it must be said. Good at coups and murdering border tribal people....little else.

 

[Avicenna]

Dont equate Bangladesh with Pakistan lol. You are absolutely nothing to us militarily, not even a bee....more like a fly.

People with whipped and totally controlled PM's shouldn't squeal about who they think are mighty and who crap their pants.

Never compare yourselves to Pakistan. They are a worthy adversary with nuclear weapons.

You on the other hand are nothing more than a defeated, polarised and totally subservient country living off our disinterest and scrap margins.

Now watch your "navy" (stress on the inverted commas) handover your chinese tin cans for a thorough inspection in the guise of training exchange to Dada. SHW will demand it to entertain the Dada that takes care of her.

Its the reason why China wouldnt give you anything important tin-can wise even if you could afford it.

You betrayed their actual ally in 1971....so they arent going to give you anything anytime soon that matters in an actual conflict.

General ignorance of so called BD defence folk is also highlighted by not one response to my previous post.

Quite reflective of their "military" too it must be said. Good at coups and murdering border tribal people....little else.

You seem like a very pleasant individual.

 

[Bilal9]

You seem like a very pleasant individual.

Bhai with all due respect - let's not 'quote' or entertain trolls. They have added nothing valuable to the conversation so far and are simply annoying distractions.

I'm surprised the mods haven't taken action yet.

@Horus, @waz and @WAJsal bhais can you kindly help cleanup some of the offensive posts here please. The perpetrators are well-marked.

 

[ghost250]

Dont equate Bangladesh with Pakistan lol. You are absolutely nothing to us militarily, not even a bee....more like a fly.

People with whipped and totally controlled PM's shouldn't squeal about who they think are mighty and who crap their pants.

Never compare yourselves to Pakistan. They are a worthy adversary with nuclear weapons.

You on the other hand are nothing more than a defeated, polarised and totally subservient country living off our disinterest and scrap margins.

Now watch your "navy" (stress on the inverted commas) handover your chinese tin cans for a thorough inspection in the guise of training exchange to Dada. SHW will demand it to entertain the Dada that takes care of her.

Its the reason why China wouldnt give you anything important tin-can wise even if you could afford it.

You betrayed their actual ally in 1971....so they arent going to give you anything anytime soon that matters in an actual conflict.

General ignorance of so called BD defence folk is also highlighted by not one response to my previous post.

Quite reflective of their "military" too it must be said. Good at coups and murdering border tribal people....little else.

r u happy now??