Bangladesh Navy

[saif]

This looks a bit larger than that Shakti Shanchar example at 72 meters and is sea-going to boot. Shakti Shanchar was about 65 meters long and was riverine or near coastal/shore capable only.

Why is Bangladesh army buying so many LCTs? They don't have large number of tanks. I think LCTs are used for amphibious assault.

 

[Bilal9]

Why is Bangladesh army buying so many LCTs? They don't have large number of tanks. I think LCTs are used for amphibious assault.

The number of LCT's are hopelessly low for how many amphibious assaults they need to make. They have enough tanks for amphibious assaults. Bangladesh is a riverine country, add two plus two.

The LCT's shown here in these builds however are seaborne.

For a person with Bangladeshi flag, you almost have no idea about our army.

 

[saif]

The number of LCT's are hopelessly low for how many amphibious assaults they need to make. They have enough tanks for amphibious assaults. Bangladesh is a riverine country, add two plus two.

The LCT's shown here in these builds however are seaborne.

For a person with Bangladeshi flag, you almost have no idea about our army.

I am here to learn about Bangladesh army. In my humble opinion, the number of tank Bangladesh army has is low. T-59=174, T-69=58, MBT-2000=44, VT-5=44. That's all Bangladesh army has. By the by, Bangladesh army badly needs amphibious tank.

 

[Arthur]

Why is Bangladesh army buying so many LCTs? They don't have large number of tanks. I think LCTs are used for amphibious assault.

With the current fleet they can't move even half a regiment let alone a full mechanized brigade. That's why.

I am here to learn about Bangladesh army. In my humble opinion, the number of tank Bangladesh army has is low. T-59=174, T-69=58, MBT-2000=44, VT-5=44. That's all Bangladesh army has. By the by, Bangladesh army badly needs amphibious tank.

Even an amphibious tank needs to be carried to a certain distance before it can wade to the shore.

 

[Bilal9]

I am here to learn about Bangladesh army. In my humble opinion, the number of tank Bangladesh army has is low. T-59=174, T-69=58, MBT-2000=44, VT-5=44. That's all Bangladesh army has. By the by, Bangladesh army badly needs amphibious tank.

Good to know. Which region of Bangladesh are your folks from? Just curious.

 

[saif]

Good to know. Which region of Bangladesh are your folks from? Just curious.

Dhaka

 

[saif]

If the economy growth is stagnant then unlikely to launce EF program, but if it grows quite high then most probably the EF program will be launched and it will likely be accompanied with bigger geopolitical ambition.

Your geopolitical ambition has been killed by the Americans by denying you to have nuclear bomb.

 

[Indos]

Your geopolitical ambition has been killed by the Americans by denying you to have nuclear bomb.

Indonesian nuclear technology is the most advance in South East Asia at the moment. We can enrich the nuclear material and has permission to do so into industrial grade.

Your geopolitical ambition has been killed by the Americans by denying you to have nuclear bomb.

I think Indonesian elite is quite comfortable with our geopolitical position currently.

Our focus is to develop our economy, infrastructure, and industry. Geopolitically Indonesia is already quite important in our region, East Asia.

IMO, Indonesia next target is to have greater influence in OIC. We have become top three funder in Islamic Development Bank currently, we are likely to increase the stake in 2028 and become the biggest lender in Islamic Development Bank.

Base on IMF projection, our nominal GDP will be 2 trillion USD in 2028, much bigger than Turkey and Saudi as the second and third largest biggest economy in OIC group.

Militarily, at that time our weakest point which is Air Force will have big boost by the arrival of 42 Rafale F3R and 8 F15 EX.

So our Air Force in 2028/29 will likely have :

Fighter :
42 Rafale F3R
33 F16 ( Amram launch capable)
16 Su 30/27
24 Mirage 2000-5/9 (BVR capable)
8 F15 EX

Attack plane:
24 Hawk 200/100
19 TA50 Golden Eagle
15 Supertucano ( COIN )

AWACS:
3 Global Eyes

 

[saif]

Indonesian nuclear technology is the most advance in South East Asia at the moment. We can enrich the nuclear material and has permission to do so into industrial grade.

I think Indonesian elite is quite comfortable with our geopolitical position currently.

Our focus is to develop our economy, infrastructure, and industry. Geopolitically Indonesia is already quite important in our region, East Asia.

IMO, Indonesia next target is to have greater influence in OIC. We have become top three funder in Islamic Development Bank currently, we are likely to increase the stake in 2028 and become the biggest lender in Islamic Development Bank.

Base on IMF projection, our nominal GDP will be 2 trillion USD in 2028, much bigger than Turkey and Saudi as the second and third largest biggest economy in OIC group.

Militarily, at that time our weakest point which is Air Force will have big boost by the arrival of 42 Rafale F3R and 8 F15 EX.

So our Air Force in 2028/29 will likely have :

Fighter :
42 Rafale F3R
33 F16 ( Amram launch capable)
16 Su 30/27
24 Mirage 2000-5/9 (BVR capable)
8 F15 EX

Attack plane:
24 Hawk 200/100
19 TA50 Golden Eagle
15 Supertucano ( COIN )

AWACS:
3 Global Eyes

I heard that Americans forced you to discard your nuclear ambition back in 90s. You may enrich uranium but don't have the permission to make the bomb. By the by, your air force is quite strong

 

[Indos]

I heard that Americans forced you to discard your nuclear ambition back in 90s. You may enrich uranium but don't have the permission to make the bomb. By the by, your air force is quite strong

Thanks

1967 to be precise when Soeharto was in power

https://www.nonproliferation.org/wp-content/uploads/npr/72corn.pdf

 

[saif]

Thanks

1967 to be precise when Soeharto was in power

https://www.nonproliferation.org/wp-content/uploads/npr/72corn.pdf

Thanx. It was informative

 

[Bilal9]

Building naval alliances: French frigate makes historic port call in Bangladesh​

French Rear Admiral Emmanuel Slaars visits Bangladesh, signaling strengthened maritime cooperation and a commitment to bolster defense relations.

ISPR
Nurul Islam Hasib from Chittagong
Published: July 2, 2023 10:45 PM | Last updated: July 3, 2023 10:12 AM

The arrival of a French naval ship in Bangladesh after seven years heralds the beginning of a new relationship between the two forces.

“This (port) call shows our dedication to work with Bangladesh armed forces, especially with the Navy. We are both active members of the Indian Ocean Naval Symposium and we wish to build on it,” visiting Joint Commander of the French Force, Rear Admiral Emmanuel Slaars, told Dhaka Tribune in an interview.

Surcouf, the La Fayette type frigate, arrived in Chittagong port on Sunday on a five-day port-call.

Upon its arrival at the jetty, Commander Chittagong Naval Zone Chief Staff Officer Captain Foyes welcomed the officials and sailors of the ship.

Admiral Slaars also paid a courtesy call on Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina at her official residence Ganabhban on Sunday evening.


A range of issues, including defense cooperation, drydock cooperation and seaway movement came up for discussion in the meeting, PM's Press Secretary Ihsanul Karim said.

La Fayette type frigates are multi-purpose combat vessels, designed primarily to preserve and enforce national interests in overseas maritime areas and to participate in the settlement of crises outside Europe, according to the French navy.

In this context, they may be required to provide support for an intervention force, the protection of commercial traffic, special operations or humanitarian missions. These ships are designed to carry on board a Panther anti-ship helicopter and its detachment.

The visiting ship is named after Robert Surcouf, a French privateer and businessman who operated in the Indian Ocean from 1795 to 1808 during the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars. It is 125m in length and 15.4m in width.

The French navy is regarded as one of the largest and most powerful naval forces in the world. It operates 365 days a year, 24 hours a day, on all the seas of the world. From territorial waters to the high seas, the French navy conducts defense and security missions to, what it said, protect maritime approaches and national interests.

The Indian Ocean is known as the “great middle bay” due to its location. Over 80 percent of maritime oil trade passes through the Indian Ocean. It goes to East Asia, Europe and North America. The Indian Ocean is also a valuable source of fisheries and mineral resources. Bangladesh is a Bay of Bengal outward-facing country. It is the largest bay in the world, lying at the centre of the Indian Ocean.

France extended support to the Liberation War of Bangladesh in 1971 and accorded recognition to Bangladesh as a sovereign country as early on February 14, 1972.

Here is the full version of the interview:

Dhaka Tribune: What is the purpose of the ship's visit this time?
Admiral Slaars: The visit aims to improve our bilateral cooperation.

DT: When did it arrive in Chittagong, and how long will it stay?
Admiral Slaars: She arrived on Sunday 2nd July and will leave on Thursday 6th July

DT: Why is this visit special?
Admiral Slaars: It is very important for us to maintain tight relations with our partners. As we had the opportunity to come, I decided to send this frigate to the Bay of Bengal in order to enhance cooperation with neighbouring countries. Our last port call in Chittagong dates back to 2016, too long ago! This call shows our dedication to work with Bangladesh armed forces, especially with the Navy. We are both active members of the Indian Ocean Naval Symposium and we wish to build on it.

DT: What's the French interest in the Indo-Pacific?
Admiral Slaars: We are part of the Indo-Pacific nations, with La Réunion and the overseas territories in the Western part of the Indian Ocean, as well as New Caledonia and Polynesia in the Pacific Ocean. In 2018, we published our Indo-Pacific strategy that inspired the EU one. We are fully dedicated to having our share in the protection of this strategic region, in accordance with our values: rules-based order, freedom of navigation, etc.

DT: What is the defence relationship between Bangladesh and France?
Admiral Slaars: The relationship is very good, and can still improve. We shall benefit from this post Covid period to identify new domains in which we could cooperate to our mutual benefit.

 

[saif]

Building naval alliances: French frigate makes historic port call in Bangladesh​

French Rear Admiral Emmanuel Slaars visits Bangladesh, signaling strengthened maritime cooperation and a commitment to bolster defense relations.

ISPR
Nurul Islam Hasib from Chittagong
Published: July 2, 2023 10:45 PM | Last updated: July 3, 2023 10:12 AM

The arrival of a French naval ship in Bangladesh after seven years heralds the beginning of a new relationship between the two forces.

“This (port) call shows our dedication to work with Bangladesh armed forces, especially with the Navy. We are both active members of the Indian Ocean Naval Symposium and we wish to build on it,” visiting Joint Commander of the French Force, Rear Admiral Emmanuel Slaars, told Dhaka Tribune in an interview.

Surcouf, the La Fayette type frigate, arrived in Chittagong port on Sunday on a five-day port-call.

Upon its arrival at the jetty, Commander Chittagong Naval Zone Chief Staff Officer Captain Foyes welcomed the officials and sailors of the ship.

Admiral Slaars also paid a courtesy call on Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina at her official residence Ganabhban on Sunday evening.


A range of issues, including defense cooperation, drydock cooperation and seaway movement came up for discussion in the meeting, PM's Press Secretary Ihsanul Karim said.

La Fayette type frigates are multi-purpose combat vessels, designed primarily to preserve and enforce national interests in overseas maritime areas and to participate in the settlement of crises outside Europe, according to the French navy.

In this context, they may be required to provide support for an intervention force, the protection of commercial traffic, special operations or humanitarian missions. These ships are designed to carry on board a Panther anti-ship helicopter and its detachment.

The visiting ship is named after Robert Surcouf, a French privateer and businessman who operated in the Indian Ocean from 1795 to 1808 during the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars. It is 125m in length and 15.4m in width.

The French navy is regarded as one of the largest and most powerful naval forces in the world. It operates 365 days a year, 24 hours a day, on all the seas of the world. From territorial waters to the high seas, the French navy conducts defense and security missions to, what it said, protect maritime approaches and national interests.

The Indian Ocean is known as the “great middle bay” due to its location. Over 80 percent of maritime oil trade passes through the Indian Ocean. It goes to East Asia, Europe and North America. The Indian Ocean is also a valuable source of fisheries and mineral resources. Bangladesh is a Bay of Bengal outward-facing country. It is the largest bay in the world, lying at the centre of the Indian Ocean.

France extended support to the Liberation War of Bangladesh in 1971 and accorded recognition to Bangladesh as a sovereign country as early on February 14, 1972.

Here is the full version of the interview:

Dhaka Tribune: What is the purpose of the ship's visit this time?
Admiral Slaars: The visit aims to improve our bilateral cooperation.

DT: When did it arrive in Chittagong, and how long will it stay?
Admiral Slaars: She arrived on Sunday 2nd July and will leave on Thursday 6th July

DT: Why is this visit special?
Admiral Slaars: It is very important for us to maintain tight relations with our partners. As we had the opportunity to come, I decided to send this frigate to the Bay of Bengal in order to enhance cooperation with neighbouring countries. Our last port call in Chittagong dates back to 2016, too long ago! This call shows our dedication to work with Bangladesh armed forces, especially with the Navy. We are both active members of the Indian Ocean Naval Symposium and we wish to build on it.

DT: What's the French interest in the Indo-Pacific?
Admiral Slaars: We are part of the Indo-Pacific nations, with La Réunion and the overseas territories in the Western part of the Indian Ocean, as well as New Caledonia and Polynesia in the Pacific Ocean. In 2018, we published our Indo-Pacific strategy that inspired the EU one. We are fully dedicated to having our share in the protection of this strategic region, in accordance with our values: rules-based order, freedom of navigation, etc.

DT: What is the defence relationship between Bangladesh and France?
Admiral Slaars: The relationship is very good, and can still improve. We shall benefit from this post Covid period to identify new domains in which we could cooperate to our mutual benefit

Recently, the French navy is quite active in the Bay of Bengal. May be the French govt. is pursuing Bangladesh to select the La Fayette design for its high performance frigate program. As far as I know one La Fayette frigate cost more than $400 million. Pricey.

 

[Bilal9]

Recently, the French navy is quite active in the Bay of Bengal. May be the French govt. is pursuing Bangladesh to select the La Fayette design for its high performance frigate program. As far as I know one La Fayette frigate cost more than $400 million. Pricey.

It won't cost $400 Million if built in Bangladesh. But yeah - cliffside condos in Monaco don't go cheap....

 

[saif]

It won't cost $400 Million if built in Bangladesh. But yeah - cliffside condos in Monaco don't go cheap....

Bangladesh navy was interested in Chinese Type 054A frigate, which is cheaper than French Lafayette. But the Chinese govt. wanted 65% share of CDDL. That's why the deal did not go through.