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Bangladesh Navy indigenous Frigate development program.

China publiclised the Bangladesh Navy's new frigate at a hardware expo in Russia. Its very clear BN opted for a stealthier version of the Type 054 which shares similarities with its Shadhinota class guided missile corvettes.

This is a very good design IMO. We know BN opted for a modernised Type 054 but up until the public release of the model it was not confirmed to the Internet audience.

#BD Military.

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I guess some of the article the image contains is not as relevant, but here it is translated (and lightly edited),

What is the scene of selling Chinese ships at home in Russia?
  • 2018-08-30 23:15:17
China National Shipbuilding Industry Corporation and other Chinese companies participated in the exhibition at the recent "Army-2018" International Military Technology Forum held in Russia, exhibiting 1,500-ton light frigates, 3,000-ton frigates, 4,000-ton frigates and MRTV3000 trimaran. In addition to the frigate model, a variety of ship models were displayed, such as the trimaran frigate and the model of the 22,000-ton landing ship and the 55-meter double-body wave-piercing missile catamaran.

Unfortunately, Yang Aihong did not find clear pictures of these models at the time, so it is difficult to analyze the ships themselves. Fortunately, today, Weibo user @Richard-Yip released a series of photos taken at the exhibition. There is a clear picture of these models! Yang Aihong will come to talk about these models.

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1500-ton frigate

Obviously, the prototype is a Type 056 light frigate (this is similar to our C13B corvette - Bilal's note). This is a modified version of the Type 056 light frigate which has seen great export performance. Its design emphasizes economy and comfort, and its firepower is moderate. It is suitable for patrol, air, sea, land and submarine. Anti-submarine and other low-intensity combat missions are completely different from the design ideas of the Russian Navy's light-duty warships and the "boats and cannons".

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3000-ton frigate

This appears to be the same exact model of the C28A light frigate as exported to the Algerian Navy. This type of ship does not have a corresponding self-use version in the Chinese Navy, and is purely designed for foreign users. In the Algerian Navy, the C28A light frigate is positioned as a second-class auxiliary ship for use with the primary MEKO series of German frigates, which is quite different from the needs of the Russian Navy.

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New frigate

From the perspective of no chimneys and other features, this should be an upgraded version of the C28A light frigate (the C28A frigate uses a chimney-free design, and the exhaust of the main engine and auxiliary engines is exhausted by the exhaust vent near the waterline). Compared with the C28A, its superstructure emphasizes stealth, and its weapon configuration upgrades two CIWS guns on the hangar (two sets of fire control systems are shared by two to replace one set of independent fire control systems) ), and the 8-unit short-range anti-aircraft missile launcher of the B-gun is changed to the 32-unit missile vertical launch system (VLS), and the radar electronic device has also been upgraded accordingly, and the combat power has made a qualitative leap.

If the Russian Navy's "caliber" series of cruise missiles and other weapons are compatible, the ship is more in line with the needs of the Russian Navy - but the Russian ship industry itself has the same type of products...

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MRTV-3000 trimaran frigate

The appearance is very avant-garde, but this design's performance is questionable. Thanks to the overall characteristics of the trimaran, it can afford a wide helicopter landing deck and a huge hangar, and the aviation support conditions are top-notch, but unfortunately this is not what the Russian Navy values most currently...

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55m wave-piercer Catamaran missile boat

It features excellent concealment (stealth) and can play a small role in specific battlefield conditions. The Iranian navy may be interested. (Bilal's note: This is a modification of the Type 22 or NATO designation 'Houbei class' which the PLAN uses - over 80 are in the PLAN fleet currently. Builder is Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard at Shanghai. These boats features catamaran hulls that are more stable than other fast missile craft in high sea conditions.)

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Two heavyweight models: 054AE frigate and 22,000 ton dock landing ship

The 054AE frigate on the right, I believe many readers and friends will not be unfamiliar with - the same as the many 054A frigates that the Chinese Navy fields, and often appear in news reports and various publications, Yang Aihong will not repeat the description here. In any case, the Russian Navy has put a whole set of destroyer level regional air defense equipment on the "Gorshkov" class frigate at the same tonnage level...so....

The model of the 22,000-ton landing ship on the left is already a frequent visitor to various international maritime exhibitions. It should also be one of the most important ship of concern to the Russian Navy: since the introduction of the French “Mistral” class amphibious ship project being built for Russia fell through some years ago, the Russian Navy has been working hard to find such a large amphibious warship with a full-fledged flight deck, hangar and docking bay. The design of the type of ship itself is quite satisfactory, and it is not difficult to make customized modifications to the hangars and lifts of helicopters equipped by the Russian Navy. As for whether business can be negotiated, depends on the sincerity of the Russian side.

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"Kylin/Kirin" class conventional power submarine

The submarine exhibits from CSIC (the surface ships are basically exhibits of the CSSC industry). This type of submarine has already received orders from the Pakistan Navy and is one of the highest-ranking submarine vessels currently exported by China. However, friends who have even a minimum understanding of the current state of the world's navies know that Russia still has the world's top submarine design production capacity...

In general, except for the 22,000-ton shipyard landing ship, most of the Chinese ships participating in the ship are unlikely to get orders from the Russian Navy. However, the participating countries of the "Military-2018" International Military Technology Forum can be more than two Chinese and Russian. There are still many countries in the world that need to update and upgrade their navies. I believe their participants will not ignore the booths of Chinese companies' exhibits.

As a responsible country that strives to maintain peace in the world and in the region, China has always taken serious considerations on arms exports, especially advanced naval vessels. In a sense, exporting these ships means exporting peace; China believes it should make greater contributions to world peace in this manner.
 
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Indigenous frigate program latest update

Bangladesh Navy is not proceeding with a contract for design and material package from China to build frigates at its Chittagong shipyard. The Chinese designs is not compatible for integrating with the Western fire control systems and some exclusive weaponry BN wanted to integrate in to the warships.

Instead the Bangladesh Navy will release a new tender within the year for a frigate design. Now the design will be open to all countries. Even India has shown interest in partnering with the Bangladesh Navy for the frigate program.

We understand that ultimately the contract would go to a European shipbuilder for design and material package.

#BDMilitary.com

বাংলাদেশ নৌবাহিনী চট্টগ্রামে অবস্থিত Chittagong Dry Dock Limited (CDDL) এ চীনের সহায়তায় মোট ৬ টি হেভি ফ্রিগেট বানানোর সিদ্ধান্ত নিয়েছিলো যার কাজ ২০১৮ এর শেষ দিকে শুরু হবার কথা ছিলো।সবকিছু ঠিক থাকলে এই বছরের শেষ দিকে পুরোপুরিভাবে ফ্রিগেট নির্মান শুরু হবার কথা থাকলেও চীনের টালবাহানায় ফ্রিগেট বানানো বেশ পেছাচ্ছে।

তবে আশার কথা বাংলাদেশ নৌবাহিনী খুব সম্ভবত এবার alternative way এর দিকে যাবে।অর্থাৎ নতুন পার্টনারের সাথে ডিজাইন,ইলেক্ট্রনিক্স এবং অন্যান্য সরঞ্জাম কেনার চুক্তি হতে পারে যার ফলে চীনের সাথে ফ্রিগেট নির্মানের কথা থাকলেও সেটি আর না ও হতে পারে।

উল্লেখ্য যে বিশ্বের বেশ কয়েকটি শিপবিল্ডিং কোম্পানি CDDL এর সাথে ফ্রিগেট নির্মানের ব্যাপারে একসাথে কাজ করার আগ্রহ দেখিয়েছে।কোম্পানিগুলোর নামের লিস্ট আর অরিজিন দেশগুলোর নাম দেয়া হলো-

>STX (France)
>CSOC (China)
>Fincantieri (Italy)
>Damen Shipyard (Netherlands)
>Daweoo Shipyard (South Korea)
>Reliance Defense (India)

এছাড়া আপকামিং গাইডেড মিসাইল ফ্রিগেটের টেন্ডারও Open থাকবে অর্থাৎ উপরের কোম্পানিগুলো এই টেন্ডারে অংশ নিয়ে নিজেদের প্রোডাক্ট প্রদর্শন করতে পারবে।

তবে খুব সম্ভবত বাংলাদেশ নৌবাহিনীর জন্য দক্ষিন কোরিয়ান Daweoo Shipyard এর নির্মিত Daegu Class (DW-3000F) হেভি ফ্রিগেটের সম্ভাবনা তুলনামূলক বেশি বলে ধারনা করা হচ্ছে।

#DTB

The official document of "Bangladesh Navy Magazine" where navy mentioned some of the companies who has expressed their interest on Indigenous frigate program of Bangladesh Navy.

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Indian made frigates are >6000 tons.
Indian Kamorta corvettes are of frigate size, but specialised for anti-submarine. But it has a lot of extra space for weapons.

Considering the West is averse to their weapons on Russian ships, Kamorta is probably the best bet. It's expensive for a corvette, but not for a frigate.
 
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Indian made frigates are >6000 tons.
Indian Kamorta corvettes are of frigate size, but specialised for anti-submarine. But it has a lot of extra space for weapons.

Considering the West is averse to their weapons on Russian ships, Kamorta is probably the best bet. It's expensive for a corvette, but not for a frigate.

Relax BD will never order any frigate from India as too much of the components would need to come from the West anyway. Also your tech is just not good enough.
 
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Relax BD will never order any frigate from India as too much of the components would need to come from the West anyway. Also your tech is just not good enough.
10% will come from the West. Strategically you should buy from China. But seems that's not good enough.

Can't wait for shiny western frigates in the Bay.
 
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10% will come from the West. Strategically you should buy from China. But seems that's not good enough.

Can't wait for shiny western frigates in the Bay.

India is BD military's only threat and it trains to fight it and so Indian arms are a no go.

Like I say Kamorta class is not the type of frigate that BN wants.
 
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Indian made frigates are >6000 tons.
Indian Kamorta corvettes are of frigate size, but specialised for anti-submarine. But it has a lot of extra space for weapons.

Considering the West is averse to their weapons on Russian ships, Kamorta is probably the best bet. It's expensive for a corvette, but not for a frigate.
10% will come from the West. Strategically you should buy from China. But seems that's not good enough.

Can't wait for shiny western frigates in the Bay.
Taking into account the india industry level.
How many warships are make in India a year?
 
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Taking into account the india industry level.
How many warships are make in India a year?
An unimpressive amount compared to China. Not there yet. Capable of exporting only corvette sized OPVs as of now.

My post was regarding BD Navy wanting non-Chinese equipment on-board, according to the article.
Even taking into account the different approaches, that's India going for bigger ships (in each class) and small numbers to China's normal ships and large numbers, India is far behind. But surely a major player ship industry wise. How many are there capable of making carrier standard steel..

Anyway, last post on the topic.
 
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Indian made frigates are >6000 tons.
Indian Kamorta corvettes are of frigate size, but specialised for anti-submarine. But it has a lot of extra space for weapons.

Considering the West is averse to their weapons on Russian ships, Kamorta is probably the best bet. It's expensive for a corvette, but not for a frigate.

With all due respect Sir, you are wasting your breath...

Not happening. In anyone's lifetime.... :-)
 
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An unimpressive amount compared to China. Not there yet. Capable of exporting only corvette sized OPVs as of now.

My post was regarding BD Navy wanting non-Chinese equipment on-board, according to the article.
Even taking into account the different approaches, that's India going for bigger ships (in each class) and small numbers to China's normal ships and large numbers, India is far behind. But surely a major player ship industry wise. How many are there capable of making carrier standard steel..

Anyway, last post on the topic.
Burmese love big boat with lots of free space in them for Sepak takraw match while doodling in the shallow water.
You should try your luck there. @Aung Zaya
 
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Also your tech is just not good enough.

Says someone from a country which operates second hand 1970s era 'frigates'...

Weed consumption among British Bangladeshis looks like a topic for research. :lol:
 
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Says someone from a country which operates second hand 1970s era 'frigates'...

You don't need to have latest brand new frigates to comment on naval technology.

India itself doesn't trust its own substandard technology as proven by its import of frigates from Russia, how do you expect others to rely on your technology?
 
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India itself doesn't trust its own substandard technology as proven by its import of frigates from Russia

Doofus, we are building seven 7000 tonne Project 17A frigates ourselves. Which is comparable to many destroyers in armament & sensors.

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And we export warships.
 
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Which is comparable to many destroyers in armament & sensors.

Says who? A wannabe martial Indian troll?

A Burmese member could jump in and comment "our Kyan Sittha-class frigate is comparable to many frigates in armament & sensors", would India cancel the Russian ones and buy them instead?

Not to mention the level of indigenization of Indian naval products itself is not high.

PS: Don't post those pics of Indian ships, they are eyesores.
 
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