Bangladesh Navy indigenous Frigate development program.

[idune]

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These old conspiracy joke getting boring. is that the best you can do?? Then you don't have any future as comedian like your mentor @idune . try something new like constructive and informative comment without lame joke.

"constructive" based on pure speculation and hoax that is awami league holy book of policy. SHOW us a single shred of reference that Korean ship is under consideration. You bear responsibility of your tall clam. Otherwise will be another awami speculative liar.

 

[Dot]

On topic - I think BD Navy would follow what others; specially Malaysia is doing with their frigate program. You choose a proven; possibly Western design, modify as per desired tonnage/sensors/weapons package etc, get provisions for TOT & inhouse designing, build them up locally. Around $3 -$3.5 billion for 6 ships may be expected.

 

[Bilal9]

@The Eagle bhai can we consolidate all the frigate related threads (including this one) into a single sticky thread (Named 'Bangladesh Indigenous Frigate Program' thread please?

 

[Sankpal]

Our labour ,our paint to some furniture kitchen utility etc going to be indigenous.




Yes it's confusing same for ,with Russian engine and Chinese radar jf-17 indigenous or with Israeli radar American engine Tejaz a indigenous fighter .

Well you missed, jf 17 is designed by Soviet and design purchased by China & develop and testing done by China and finally nut bolt, paint job done by Pakistan.

Hal tejas is designed and developed by India, yes we have imported few parts from other nations. Nothing wrong.

If you design and develop and setup a infrastructure then nothing wrong to import few parts if you are not able to develop on time

 

[monitor]

@The Eagle bhai can we consolidate all the frigate related threads (including this one) into a single sticky thread (Named 'Bangladesh Indigenous Frigate Program' thread please?

Yes before decision is final we can discuss here a thread already created by me.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bangladesh-navy-indigenous-frigate-development-program.501481/

 

[Species]

@The Eagle bhai can we consolidate all the frigate related threads (including this one) into a single sticky thread (Named 'Bangladesh Indigenous Frigate Program' thread please?

There are so many threads already existing on this topic.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bangladesh-navy-indigenous-frigate-development-program.501481/

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...-guided-missile-frigates-indigenously.506853/

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/from...-build-6-frigates-under-joint-venture.538989/

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/poss...s-indigenous-frigate-building-program.539038/

All of them could be merged into a single sticky thread. Otherwise, we will see new threads daily on every other speculation concerning the program.

@The Eagle

 

[The Ronin]

What the Dutch offered to BN is akin to the package for Indonesian Navy's SIGMA 10514 “PERUSAK KAWAL RUDAL” FRIGATE

GENERAL
Customer Indonesian Navy (TNI-AL)
Primary functions Anti Air Warfare, Anti Surface Warfare,
Anti Submarine Warfare
Secondary Maritime Security & Safety, Disaster Relief/
Humanitarian Aid
Hull material Steel grade A / AH36
Standards Naval / Commercial, naval intact / damaged
stability, noise reduced, moderate shock
Classification Lloyd’s Register of Shipping (supervision)
X100 A1 SSC Mono Patrol, G6, LMC UMS

DIMENSIONS
Length o.a. 105.11 m
Beam mld 14.02 m
Depth no.1 deck 8.75 m
Draught (dwl) 3.70 m
Displacement (dwl) 2365 tons
PERFORMANCE
Speed (Maximum power) 28 knots
Speed on E-propulsion 15 knots
Range at 14 knots > 5000 NM
Endurance > 20 days at sea
PROPULSION SYSTEM
Propulsion type combined diesel or electric (CODOE)
Diesel engines 2 x 10000 kW MCR diesel propulsion
Electric motors 2 x 1300 kW MCR electric propulsion
Gearbox 2 x double input input/single output
Propellers 2 x CPP diameter 3.65 m
Integrated platform management system
AUXILIARY SYSTEMS
Generator sets 6 x 735 kWE (CAT C-32A)
Emergency gen. set 1 x 180 kWE
Chilled water 2 x units, redundant distrubution
Fire fi ghting 4 x main pumps +1 x service pump
Freshwater making capacity 2 x 14 m3/day (RO) + 2 x 7.5 m3/day
(evaporators)

DECK EQUIPMENT
Helicopter deck max. 10 tons helicopter
Heli operations day/night with refuelling system
Helicopter hangar suitable for approx 6 tons helicopter
RAS on helicopter deck PS&SB, astern fuelling
Boats 2 x RHIB
ACCOMMODATION
Fully air-conditioned accommodation for 122 persons
Commanding Officer 1
VIP cabin (Flag officer standard) 1
Offi cers 26
Chief Petty Officers 10
Petty Officers 28
Petty officer (female) 8
Junior Ratings 29
Trainee Officers 18
Canal Pilot cabin. 1
Provisions for NBC citadel / decontamination

WEAPON & SENSOR SUITE
3D-Surveillance & target indication radar & IFF
Radar / electro optical fi re control
Hull Mounted Sonar
Combat management system
Medium calibre gun 76 mm
1 x Close In Weapon System
2 x 4 SSM launchers
12 cell SAM launcher
2 x triple Torpedo launching system

ESM & ECM
2 x Decoy launchers
Integrated internal & external communication system

NAUTICAL EQUIPMENT
Integrated bridge console, 2 x navigation radar, ECDIS,
GMDSS-A3, reference gyro

The package includes:

DESIGN AND LICENSES + MATERIAL PACKAGES + BUILDING ASSISTANCE

License
Basic Design
Detail design
+
First class equipment suppliers
Short delivery times
Advanced logistics
+
Experienced staff
Transfer of Technology
Training of shipyard cre

http://www.theindependentbd.com/post/132616

 

[Arthur]

Will be a great platform to replace our old Type 53H series frigates. But I think BN has no project to build for 2000-2500 ton class at this moment. BN should take a local project for this weight class too. As in not so distant future all the current ships in this weight class will be retired from BN service.

Local Combat Ship Production by Weight Class-

350 tons- Padma Class
500-800 tons- Durjoy Class
1000-1500 tons- Shadhinota Class
4000+ Ton Frigates- Namesake not Decided yet.

You see their is a gap there, where the BNS BB and Type 53 Frigates serves currently.

 

[The Ronin]

Heavy corvette, yes that's the gap's name i think. We really need some of this kind.

 

[TOPGUN]

That's a very nice ship for the BN , looks like there is also VLS on board cant go wrong here.

 

[Dot]

This offer is very promissing as they would design a frigate as per our need based on their proven platform. Dutch companies are already associated with our local private Shipyards.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Certainly better then the OPV we bought

 

[TOPGUN]

Certainly better then the OPV we bought

Different strokes for different folks bro.

 

[Bilal9]

Different strokes for different folks bro.

The Naval engagement doctrine for Pakistan and Bangladesh are like night and day. Two completely different scenarios.

More on topic, Sigma PKR 105 being built for Indonesia is a very modern platform, no doubt. But does it check all the boxes we need for our next lead ship which the new type frigate will be?

Unless I am confused, here are the basic requirements.

• 4000+ Ton displacement
• VLS up front
• AEGIS type radar integrated naval weapons combat system package if possible (like the Sea Viper or PAAMS)
• Networked (encrypted) non-jammable Ship Self-Defense System (three layers of missile defense, long/short range missile intercepts, CIWS systems as well as decoy/chaff launchers)

 

[The Ronin]

But does it check all the boxes we need for our next lead ship which the new type frigate will be?

Unless I am confused, here are the basic requirements.

• 4000+ Ton displacement
• VLS up front
• AEGIS type radar integrated naval weapons combat system package if possible (like the Sea Viper or PAAMS)
• Networked (encrypted) non-jammable Ship Self-Defense System (three layers of missile defense, long/short range missile intercepts, CIWS systems as well as decoy/chaff launchers)

That's the main problem here. This is actually a corvette with SHORADS. Don't know why Indonesia bothered to designate it as frigate. If they offer BN a 4000t frigate with more VLS for MRSAM based on this design then it's ok. Otherwise this is even worse than the multi purpose patrol vessel offered by Italy.