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Amartya Sen calls for right to universal access to healthcare

KOLKATA, February 18, 2011: Just as the country has guaranteed the right to education for all, there is a need for the right to universal access to public healthcare, Nobel Laureate Amartya Sen said here on Thursday.

“Even on the Right to Education here, a lot more is to be implemented, especially for girls. Not only China, but also Bangladesh is way ahead of India…education is also an unfulfilled promise here, but in health there is not even a promise. We want to press for it,” Dr. Sen told journalists at an event to announce the setting up of the Pratichi Institute.

He said that in India, there was an over-reliance on the private sector in healthcare that had led to “a situation in which quite often very poor peasants are exploited.”

Citing the example of universal healthcare in every country in Europe, America, Canada, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore, he said people in India should have a right to public health.

“We want the same here,” he added.

Speaking of the implementation of the Right to Free and Compulsory Education Act nearly a year after it came into force, he said quite a lot had been achieved, but there was a need for quite a lot to be done.

“The right to education was in some ways not as radical as some of us would have liked. On the other hand it was a big change. Has it achieved anything? Yes. Has it moved fast enough? No,” Dr. Sen said.

He said that Bangladesh was way ahead of India, particularly in girl's education. He pointed out that the number of girls going to school in Bangladesh was larger than the number of boys.

Pointing out that Bangladesh outscored India on all human development indicators, other than per capita income, Dr. Sen said one of the probable reasons was “the activism of liberated Bangladeshi women.”

On the draft Food Security Bill, he said there were some people opposed to it, “who think that all that the country needs is economic growth.”

“Economic growth is not an end in itself,” he said adding that it must be used for proving food, basic education and healthcare to the people.

The Pratichi Institute will be the research arm of the Pratichi (India) Trust, which was set up with the Nobel prize money of the renowned economist. The institute will focus on research in primary education and healthcare.

When asked to comment on the development of education in West Bengal, he said it was a mid-ranking State.

“It is not the best, but there is no reason that it should not be the best,” Dr. Sen said adding that the decline was not over a few decades, but since the turn of the last century.


Source: The Hindu
 
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Initiative for girl's education was adapted on 1991 during Khaledia's regime. and it still holds out today. Comparison within the two countries is pretty unfair Because Bangladesh is a smaller country and has tiny population compared to India.
Most of the data taken for economic growth are normally averages taken within the country. And when you take people like Mittal, Ambani and then take the poverty of India, you end up with a very misleading figure.
 
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Even India has 1200 USD per capita gdp compared to Bangladesh's 751 USD living standard is not that much different in both the country. Even in some cases better... In india some big cities enjoy better compered to rest of the country where in many places farmers commit suicide for shortage of money and failire to pay loan... but in Bangladesh no such event happen and no people die due to hunger...

2 or 3 days earlier he has pointed out many other part where Bangladesh is ahead of Bangladesh...

"Life expectancy in Bangladesh is 66.9 years compared with India's 64.4. The proportion of underweight children in Bangladesh (41.3 per cent) is a little lower than in India (43.5), and its fertility rate (2.3) is also lower than India's (2.7). Mean years of schooling amount to 4.8 years in Bangladesh compared with India's 4.4 years. While India is ahead of Bangladesh in male literacy rate in the youthful age-group of 15-24, the female rate in Bangladesh is higher than in India. Interestingly, the female literacy rate among young Bangladeshis is actually higher than the male rate, whereas young females still do much worse than young males in India. There is much evidence to suggest that Bangladesh's current progress has much to do with the role that liberated Bangladeshi women are beginning to play in the country.

What about health, which interests every human being as much as anything else? Under-5 mortality rate is 66 in India compared with 52 in Bangladesh. In infant mortality, Bangladesh has a similar advantage, since the rate is 50 in India and 41 in Bangladesh. Whereas 94 per cent of Bangladeshi children are immunised with DPT vaccine, only 66 per cent of Indian children are. In each of these respects, Bangladesh does better than India, despite having less than half of India's per-capita income.

This should not, however, be interpreted to entail that Bangladesh's living conditions will not benefit from higher economic growth — they certainly can benefit greatly, particularly if growth is used as a means of doing good things, rather than treating it as an end in itself. It is to the huge credit of Bangladesh that despite the adversity of low income it has been able to do so much so quickly, in which the activism of the NGOs as well as public policies have played their parts. But higher income, including larger public resources, will enhance, rather than reduce, Bangladesh's ability to do good things for its people."



Regarding education of Bangladesh it is not only said by Mr. Sen but also it is indicated in "The Super Cycle Report 2010" of standard Chartered Bank... According to that report Bangladesh will be worlds 5th largest graduate producing nation and will ahead of many nation such as Brazil, Nigeria, south Korea, Russia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Mexico etc. N if you compare it with per capita then Bangladesh will produce around 1.7-1.8 times more graduate then India.

This is the table which is showing how the world situation on creativity is gonna look like in the next 2 decades...

HTML:
http://imagenic.net/viewer.php?file=bshfb0cdhm6j6hgj8mvy.jpg

Page 70 of the PDF of the following link

http://www.standardchartered.com/me...documents/20101115/The_Super-cycle_Report.pdf

It is a clear indication with almost 1.7-1.8 times more graduate and overall development in HDI in all parts of Bangladesh compared to India where it may develop in only certain region where as many other region will remain far backward... Bangladesh will transform in to develop country earlier then India due to not able to develop all region equally and most likely to fall in to the "Middle Income Trap" in the next decade or so which will have a very big negative impact on India.
 
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Amartya Sen calls for right to universal access to healthcare

KOLKATA, February 18, 2011: Just as the country has guaranteed the right to education for all, there is a need for the right to universal access to public healthcare, Nobel Laureate Amartya Sen said here on Thursday.

“Even on the Right to Education here, a lot more is to be implemented, especially for girls. Not only China, but also Bangladesh is way ahead of India…education is also an unfulfilled promise here, but in health there is not even a promise. We want to press for it,” Dr. Sen told journalists at an event to announce the setting up of the Pratichi Institute.

He said that in India, there was an over-reliance on the private sector in healthcare that had led to “a situation in which quite often very poor peasants are exploited.”

Citing the example of universal healthcare in every country in Europe, America, Canada, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore, he said people in India should have a right to public health.

“We want the same here,” he added.

Speaking of the implementation of the Right to Free and Compulsory Education Act nearly a year after it came into force, he said quite a lot had been achieved, but there was a need for quite a lot to be done.

“The right to education was in some ways not as radical as some of us would have liked. On the other hand it was a big change. Has it achieved anything? Yes. Has it moved fast enough? No,” Dr. Sen said.

He said that Bangladesh was way ahead of India, particularly in girl's education. He pointed out that the number of girls going to school in Bangladesh was larger than the number of boys.

Pointing out that Bangladesh outscored India on all human development indicators, other than per capita income, Dr. Sen said one of the probable reasons was “the activism of liberated Bangladeshi women.”

On the draft Food Security Bill, he said there were some people opposed to it, “who think that all that the country needs is economic growth.”

“Economic growth is not an end in itself,” he said adding that it must be used for proving food, basic education and healthcare to the people.

The Pratichi Institute will be the research arm of the Pratichi (India) Trust, which was set up with the Nobel prize money of the renowned economist. The institute will focus on research in primary education and healthcare.

When asked to comment on the development of education in West Bengal, he said it was a mid-ranking State.

“It is not the best, but there is no reason that it should not be the best,” Dr. Sen said adding that the decline was not over a few decades, but since the turn of the last century.


Source: The Hindu

Yes, we have a long way to go, a lot to be done. Our internal disparities are striking. Political stability and sustained economic growth will help.
 
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i wish Mr amartya sen is inducted into National advisory council. his views and suggestions wd be of tremendous help there. is sonia ghandhi listening?
 
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“It is not the best, but there is no reason that it should not be the best,” Dr. Sen said adding that the decline was not over a few decades, but since the turn of the last century.

What does that mean? With all due respect to Amartya Sen, communists failed miserably in education and health care, more so when that two fields should be their stronghold, granted making money doesn't gel with communism.
 
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I think it has something to do with having woman PMs for two decades. They at least paid attention to health-care and girls education.

The thinking behind girls' education is not because of women PMs. GoB had planned to educate all the children of the soil. But, the reality in the villages discourage people to send their boys and girls to schools. These children were used to do the household chores that also include sending food and water to their fathers and farm workers who are busy to tilt the farmland.

GoB thought that if somehow the future mothers are given education, they, in their own turn, would send their children of both sexes to the school. On the contrary, even if only today's sons are sent to schools, it may not bring the desirable fruits. Since it is possible that the mothers in that case are uneducated, therefore, they will not push their children hard to go to schools.

This is why more emphasis was placed on girls' education. To get the required results, the govt started to give 30 kg of rice/wheat to each of the school girl. This bonus helped kick start the mass participation of girls in the school education.

Now, probably, all the girls are given a kind of cash stipend to study in Colleges (Intermediate level). The purpose is to stop early marriage. This step has also given the desired results. In average the marriage age has gone up by a few years. Someone can post the data.
 
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I agree with Dr sen, But we must not forget that India is a huge country, with massive population... It take long time to achieve any specific thing... We are lacking many thing we are on track...

I am happy to see our Bangla brothers (Tigers) guiding us... If they have done something better we can learn from them... I love our Banla Tigers.. We are same Blood..
 
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The thinking behind girls' education is not because of women PMs. GoB had planned to educate all the children of the soil. But, the reality in the villages discourage people to send their boys and girls to schools. These children were used to do the household chores that also include sending food and water to their fathers and farm workers who are busy to tilt the farmland.

GoB thought that if somehow the future mothers are given education, they, in their own turn, would send their children of both sexes to the school. On the contrary, even if only today's sons are sent to schools, it may not bring the desirable fruits. Since it is possible that the mothers in that case are uneducated, therefore, they will not push their children hard to go to schools.

This is why more emphasis was placed on girls' education. To get the required results, the govt started to give 30 kg of rice/wheat to each of the school girl. This bonus helped kick start the mass participation of girls in the school education.

Now, probably, all the girls are given a kind of cash stipend to study in Colleges (Intermediate level). The purpose is to stop early marriage. This step has also given the desired results. In average the marriage age has gone up by a few years. Someone can post the data.

My point is a woman is more likely to identify these as important issues then men. In 1994 Hilary was the driving force behind the unsuccessful health care reform in US. I am not trying to generalize women here, just mentioning a statistical likelihood.
 
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What does that mean? With all due respect to Amartya Sen, communists failed miserably in education and health care, more so when that two fields should be their stronghold, granted making money doesn't gel with communism.

There is stark contrast between the communist government you have there in West Bengal and the communist party of Kerala.

Whatever the ruling front is , the educational ministry is under constant scanner and is expected to deliver big time.
And it has benefited the state immensely. Maybe WB needs a change.
 
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There is stark contrast between the communist government you have there in West Bengal and the communist party of Kerala.

Whatever the ruling front is , the educational ministry is under constant scanner and is expected to deliver big time.
And it has benefited the state immensely. Maybe WB needs a change.

Indeed communists here are only good at politicising premier institutions, one of them being Presidency College from where Amartya Sen himself was graduated.

Another pointer is, in Kerala Muslims are as much educated as Hindus and in WB they are lagging 20% behind, which shows there has been no try to engage Muslims in progressive society. They are only good at pulling off votebank tricks.

Replacement is as bad if not worse than communists, atleast Budhha Bhattacharya is an enlightened man and trying to change the status-quo.
 
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Amartya Sen is correct..We ARE lagging in this field.
Rather than finding loopholes in Govt. policy, individual participation is required. And we should emulate the policy of Bangladesh that all MBBS graduates from Govt. colleges will have to work in Rural areas for a fixed period of time..
 
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Amartya Sen is correct..We ARE lagging in this field.
Rather than finding loopholes in Govt. policy, individual participation is required. And we should emulate the policy of Bangladesh that all MBBS graduates from Govt. colleges will have to work in Rural areas for a fixed period of time..


I dont agree on this except when the case is voluntary......
 
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