Bangladesh:Gunfight at BDR headquarters

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A senior diplomat told Outlook that New Delhi advised Hasina and the Bangladesh army to tread cautiously and avoid creating a 1975-like situation, when most members of the country’s founder Mujibur Rahman’s family were gunned down. That was perhaps the reason why Hasina announced general amnesty to secure the surrender of BDR mutineers.

(creating safe passage for Indian commando assets who committed massacre)

What’s your problem, Stumper ? Try to understand what idune is trying to tell you and all, and what many had understood already except you. You seem to be busy with comparing petals than looking at the rose.

The quote shows that

1. Even Indian media knows that SH’s amnesty was stemmed from New Delhi’s advice. Note here her ‘loyalty-to-India’. But, did she understand also what Amnesty---as advised by India---does entail ?

2. Oh! yes. Loyal SH easily understood that Amnesty has to be coupled with Safe Passage so as to benefit both local & foreign gang

Now without looking at the intended import of the quote or trying to understand what plainly is being said, you seem to start another round of flimsy and diversionary exchange on respective meaning of Amnesty and Safe Package’ ? Sometimes you seem to start a debate on corroborative evidence and circumstantial evidence, and thus nearly veer all of us away from the main thread of discussion.

You can not play football and cricket and hockey in the same field at the same time. Can you ?

Now, again coming to your original question : [If SH mishandled the BDR mutiny] How does all this make my country a suspect?

Answer : You find the mark of a tiger’s paw, you can trust---not only suspect--that a tiger came on the spot. This is a elementary example of circumstantial evidence, and enough to conclude.

If you find the paw of SH/BAL anywhere, and any mischief happened there against interest of Bangladesh, India was there, too----we saw this pattern last 35 years with bleeding heart and weeping eyes.

That is why we worry about your country’s attitude. Honestly, have you understood us, Stumper ?

Stumper, do you realize how provocative and rude your language had been over ours’ ? A big difference lies there. However, any improvement is welcome.

 

[Stumper]

What’s your problem, Stumper ? Try to understand what idune is trying to tell you and all, and what many had understood already except you. You seem to be busy with comparing petals than looking at the rose.

The quote shows that

1. Even Indian media knows that SH’s amnesty was stemmed from New Delhi’s advice. Note here her ‘loyalty-to-India’. But, did she understand also what Amnesty---as advised by India---does entail ?

2. Oh! yes. Loyal SH easily understood that Amnesty has to be coupled with Safe Passage so as to benefit both local & foreign gang

Now without looking at the intended import of the quote or trying to understand what plainly is being said, you seem to start another round of flimsy and diversionary exchange on respective meaning of Amnesty and Safe Package’ ? Sometimes you seem to start a debate on corroborative evidence and circumstantial evidence, and thus nearly veer all of us away from the main thread of discussion.

You can not play football and cricket and hockey in the same field at the same time. Can you ?

Now, again coming to your original question : [If SH mishandled the BDR mutiny] How does all this make my country a suspect?

Answer : You find the mark of a tiger’s paw, you can trust---not only suspect--that a tiger came on the spot. This is a elementary example of circumstantial evidence, and enough to conclude.

If you find the paw of SH/BAL anywhere, and any mischief happened there against interest of Bangladesh, India was there, too----we saw this pattern last 35 years with bleeding heart and weeping eyes.

That is why we worry about your country’s attitude. Honestly, have you understood us, Stumper ?

Stumper, do you realize how provocative and rude your language had been over ours’ ? A big difference lies there. However, any improvement is welcome.

Thanks mate. I got it. With the logic, im convinced the GoI and RAW are the only logical culprit for this carnage. Thanks again.

 

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Threat of direct intervention comes closer?
Special Correspondent


.......In an article in The Tribune ( March 3, 2008) he analysed Bangladesh Army Chief General Moeen's visit to India to make a comment that Bangladesh Army "has a chequered history of vicious internal conflicts".
According to Karlekar, "General Moeen is not known to be hostile to India. However, Maj-Gen Syed Fatemi Ahmed Rumi, General Officer Commanding (GOC) of the 66th Division, who visited India with him, was known as a loyalist of Khaleda Zia, whose second tenure as Prime Minister"
He further added: "Lt.-Gen. Jahangir Alam Khan Chowdhury, an India-hater known chiefly for his vicious verbal attacks on this country [India] made while he, then a Maj-General, was the Director-General of the Bangladesh Rifles." Karlekar also picked up rumours to identify Jamaat loyalists in the DGFI and the Army. He mentioned categorically that Brig-Gen A.T.M. Amin and Brig-Gen Chowdhury Fazlul Bari were close to the Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh (JeIB). He also pointed his finger at Lt Gen Mohammad Aminul Karim who was appointed Military Secretary to President Dr Iajuddin Ahmed.

.....Harrison like Hironmoy Karleker attributed Jamaat sympathies to Maj. Gen. Mohammed Aminul Karim, the then military secretary to President Iajuddin Ahmed, and to Brig. Gen. A.T.M. Amin, director of the Armed Forces Intelligence anti-terrorism bureau. ........One can try to get the missing links now that Brigadier General Amin and Brigadier General Bari both have been removed from DGFI. This not to be confused with another Brigadier General Bari who was killed in BDR mutiny. The forced retirement of two generals - Maj Gen. Syed Fatemi Ahmed Rumi and Lt Gen Aminul Karim - also may also be linked to Indian desires as ventilated.

HOLIDAY > FRONT PAGE

Q1: Why BAL listen to Indians while deciding service issues of our Army officers ?
Q2 : Are the Islamic attributes of our Army Generals being interpreted as JI loyalist ?
Q3 : While BAL and JI formed the election Jote, JI was a darling to BAL. Why suddenly JI became a monster ?

Will any one enlighten us on the facts and stories of BAL-JI election marriage ?

 

[BanglaBhoot]

This following news report shows that India has a guilty mind and is now trying to divert world attention away from their misdeeds -

Bangladesh perpetrating terror in India

Indian minister says

UNB, DHAKA

Indian Congress party spokesperson and Union Minister of State for Industries Ashwini Kumar has said Pakistan and Bangladesh were perpetrating terror in India, reports Assam daily the Sentinel.

Addressing the media in Gauhati on Friday Kumar said the central government was convinced that both Pakistan and Bangladesh were perpetrating terror in India.

"Pakistan never faced such isolation as it did after the Mumbai attacks. The international community has been certain that the 26/11 plans originated from Pakistan. Bangladesh was also involved in the bid to destabilise Indian sovereignty,'' Kumar said.

About managing terrorism, he pointed out that the Congress-led UPA had set up four hubs of National Security Guard (NSG) at strategic locations in the country and National Investigating Agency (NIA) besides, formulating anti-terror law within four weeks of the Mumbai carnage.

Setting aside allegation of insincerity of the UPA in tackling terrorism, Kumar said the Congress was the only party which sacrificed top bosses to fight the menace and it had the will to uphold India's sovereignty and integrity.

:: The Daily Independent Bangladesh :.. Internet Edition

 

[HK-47]

haha amago arr kam kaj nai.If we could have or wanted to destabilize something it would have been the the river dams the damned Indians built not the country.
If they are really behind this ,REALLY,they are doing it the wrong way to throw suspicions off from themselves.

Indo-Bangla DG-level border talks in Delhi Mar 30-31
DEEPAK ACHARJEE

Enhancing bilateral cooperation for better border management will be the main agenda of the DG-level talks of the border guards of Bangladesh and India scheduled to be held on March 30-31 in Delhi.
It is learnt that in the context of the tragic BDR mutiny, the original five-day (March 28 to April 1) conference was rescheduled for three days. A small delegation led by director general (DG) of Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) Brigadier General Moinul Islam will take part in the meeting.
Brigadier General Moinul Islam yesterday told The Independent that they were yet to fix any agenda for the conference. "We will discuss bilateral issues, especially for border management for stopping cross-border terrorism," he said.
Sources said that the Bangladesh would call upon the Indian government to take necessary steps for stopping smuggling of arms, explosives, drugs like phensidyl and heroin and other contraband items into Bangladesh from India through bordering areas.
"In the meeting, the DG BDR is also likely to call upon the Border Security Force (BSF) of India to take back the Indian nationals who have completed their prison terms in different jails after being charged with various criminal offences in Bangladesh," sources added.
Bangladesh has identified some fourteen problems concerning border areas, including longstanding disputes like river erosion, killing of innocent Bangladeshis by BSF, entry of industrial wastes into Bangladesh from Agartala through canals and BSF interception in development works inside Bangladesh. But all these issues may not be discussed in the meeting due to shortage of time, according to the sources.
At the talks, the DG of BDR will impress upon the DG of BSF that the Bangladesh-India joint border guidelines should be followed in letter and spirit in resolving any problem that may crop up along borders of the two neighbouring countries.
Director General of BSF and officials concerned will represent the Indian side.

:: The Daily Independent Bangladesh :.. Internet Edition

BTW,are Indian troops really positioned close to our borders?troops as to say army forces.

 

[leonblack08]

Thanks mate. I got it. With the logic, im convinced the GoI and RAW are the only logical culprit for this carnage. Thanks again.

Sarcasm is the tongue of the devil.


@Mr.Munshi

Yes the leaflet threat is right.I checked with a friend of mine who lives in cantonment,says he heard about it too.But they probably threatened to bomb BAF Shaheen school and college.It has a english medium version as well,SEM.He also mentioned another school inside cantonment,can't remember the name.

 

[Stumper]

Sarcasm is the tongue of the devil.

Whatever..better than arguing with a fool.

 

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A PAINFUL GIFT FROM BAL TO BANGLADESH

'Too much talk of militancy harming our image'
Mon, Mar 23rd, 2009 9:43 pm BdST

Dhaka, Mar 23 (bdnews24.com) – Excessive references to militancy could tarnish Bangladesh's image in the international community, having a direct negative impact on the economy, the FBCCI chief said on Monday.

"We all should be aware that if there is too much talk of militancy, others might take it to be true," Annisul Huq said in a pre-budget discussion at the trade body's offices in Motijheel.

He attributed the references to 'militant activity' in the country for refusal of foreign visas to two FBCCI directors.

"There are also rumours in the air that the Malaysian government cancelled the work permits of 55,000 Bangladeshi workers due to militant activities here," Huq said.

"I don't believe this personally, but if it is true, it's really a sad instance for us," said Huq.

 

[leonblack08]

I knew Anisul Haque as pro-AL,so its nice to hear that he is being logical at this critical moment of our country.

 

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I knew Anisul Haque as pro-AL,so its nice to hear that he is being logical at this critical moment of our country.

MORE RETREAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.....Also retracts Faruk:

Militants' Link:
Faruk now says it was his personal analysis
Staff Correspondent: The daily Star : Tuesday, March 24, 2009

Commerce Minister Faruk Khan yesterday apparently retracted his earlier observation about Islamist militants' involvement in the Pilkhana carnage.
He said the statements he had made were not based on probe findings. Rather, they were his personal observations.

He made the remarks at a press briefing at Pilkhana BDR headquarters.
"We have put together information from different sources, and after an analysis it seemed to me that militants were involved. Besides, I have visited the crime scene and talked to many people,” said Faruk Khan.

 

[leonblack08]

MORE RETREAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.....Also retracts Faruk:

Militants' Link:
Faruk now says it was his personal analysis
Staff Correspondent: The daily Star : Tuesday, March 24, 2009

Commerce Minister Faruk Khan yesterday apparently retracted his earlier observation about Islamist militants' involvement in the Pilkhana carnage.
He said the statements he had made were not based on probe findings. Rather, they were his personal observations.

He made the remarks at a press briefing at Pilkhana BDR headquarters.
"We have put together information from different sources, and after an analysis it seemed to me that militants were involved. Besides, I have visited the crime scene and talked to many people,” said Faruk Khan.

OMG!!

This man should be sacked immediately for misguiding people.Wow!look at his admission.Why didn't he say it before?What was the reason of this farce?To hide something off-course.

I believe Intel agencies are getting more proof of AL/Indian involvement,so to be on the winning side,he is changing sides.Its like kids who change sides while watching a cricket match.

 

[leonblack08]

Full report:

Faruk now says it was his personal analysis
Staff Correspondent

Commerce Minister Faruk Khan yesterday apparently retracted his earlier observation about Islamist militants' involvement in the Pilkhana carnage.

He said the statements he had made were not based on probe findings. Rather, they were his personal observations.

He made the remarks at a press briefing at Pilkhana BDR headquarters.

"We have put together information from different sources, and after an analysis it seemed to me that militants were involved. Besides, I have visited the crime scene and talked to many people,” said Faruk Khan.

Meanwhile, the FBCCI president yesterday said too much talk about militant activities would only tarnish the country's image.

Law Minister Shafique Ahmed on March 16 also said nobody should be specifically accused of having links to the conspiracy of the Pilkhana carnage before the enquiry reports are published.

Immediately after being assigned by the government to coordinate the work of probe committees, Faruk Khan found JMB hand in the BDR massacre.

Speaking to reporters on March 12, he said, "We have gathered that a number of BDR jawans arrested in the mutiny case were involved in JMB someway or the other. I won't give more details as that might alert others having links to the mass killings."

Just a couple of days later, the minister said, “We have some evidences that several militant organisations had links to the bloody revolt.” He, however, did not elaborate on the proofs.

Then, two days back, he told reporters in Gopalganj that they had found some more proof of “various organisations' involvement in the BDR carnage”.

"However, we won't disclose anything until we reach a stage when we can prove those beyond doubt," he added.

Meanwhile, FBCCI President Annisul Huq at a pre-budget meeting with the National Board of Revenue (NBR) yesterday said, “Too much talk about militant activities would only tarnish the country's image and prompt others to brand Bangladesh as a militant state.”

“We see militants in each jungle now,” he said adding, “We need to be careful while talking about militants. Two of our directors have already faced visa problem due to this.”

Annisul said he heard that the cancellation of visas of about 55,000 workers by Malaysia was linked to the militant issue. “But we don't want to believe that,” he added.

The FBCCI boss said, “If such conversation [about militants] continues people going abroad would have difficulty obtaining visas. This may also affect the economy.”

The Daily Star - Details News

 

[leonblack08]

Video-audio evidence of BDR carnage found
Footage to help investigation greatly; another FBI team shortly; govt waits for post-mortem on BDR men's death

Investigators of the BDR carnage found audiotapes and footage of the BDR officers' meeting held on February 25 morning at Darbar Hall in Pilkhana and the CCTV footage of arms being looted from the BDR headquarters arsenal.

Commerce Minister Faruk Khan, assigned to coordinate the work of probe activities, disclosed the information yesterday evening to reporters after holding the third meeting of a probe-coordination committee at the BDR headquarters.

Faruk Khan said the audiotapes and footage of the Darbar Hall meeting and the CCTV footage of the arsenal looting are being looked into.

BDR Director General Brig Gen Mainul Islam, chiefs of Criminal Investigation Department (CID), Special Branch of Police (SB), Rapid Action Battalion (Rab), other agencies concerned and senior officials of all three BDR carnage probe bodies were present at the meeting.

Faruk said a committee headed by the BDR director general has been formed to submit a report on restructuring and renaming BDR.

On the recent mysterious deaths of BDR jawans, Faruk said the real cause of their deaths would be clear after receiving their autopsy reports.

The government probe committee was given four more days yesterday to submit its report. It had sought seven days' time.

This is the second time the committee sought time. Headed by retired bureaucrat Anisuzzaman Khan, the committee was supposed to submit its report yesterday. Initially, it was supposed to file its report by March 9.

Asked about the necessity of the 11-member government probe body when the army and the CID are investigating the incident separately, Faruk said, "The army is probing the incident for its own purpose, the CID is carrying out the criminal investigation and the government formed the probe body for the state's own purpose."

Talking about the progress of investigations, the commerce minister said the investigators so far identified 714 suspects and of them 482 are under arrest.

Among the arrestees, 80 persons, who were placed on remands, gave their confessional statements before investigators under Section-161 of the Criminal Procedure Code (CrPC).

"So far 56 crime scenes have been discovered. Crime scenes and evidence of crime are being discovered almost every day," he said, adding, "The investigators have been screening all 7,000 BDR members inside the Pilkhana headquarters so that real culprits are identified and the innocent are not harassed."

The commerce minister said the FBI team, which left Dhaka yesterday morning, expressed satisfaction over Bangladeshi investigators' probe efforts.

He said another FBI team would come to Dhaka three weeks later.

Replying to a question, the commerce minister said the FBI and Scotland Yard teams helped Bangladeshi investigators identify criminals with their fingerprints and sweat. They also helped identify the BDR jawans seen in the footage with their faces wrapped with pieces of cloths, the minister said.

Faruk said so far 1,800 BDR men have not reported to their stations. "Actually, not all of them are guilty, they did not join due to the fears while some are absconding with arms and ammunition."

A total of 95 BDR carnage suspects were shown arrested yesterday and sent to jail.

US Ambassador James Moriarty after meeting Faruk Khan, foreign ministers Dipu Moni, and Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina's Adviser Tarique Siddique on Sunday noted that the scale of the investigation suggests that it could take a considerable amount of time to complete.

The Daily Star - Details News


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So FEDs proved to be useful according to this report.

 

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MORE RETREAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.....Now retracts Ershad:

Bangladesh Election 2008:
Ershad now says : No more opportunity to BAL to steal votes in election
Kurigram Correspondent: The daily Amardesh : Tuesday, March 24, 2009

IS IT HOW THE BOAT OF BAL CAME TO POWER ? Ershad is an important shareholder of Mohajote---led by BAL. Is the cat coming out inadvertantly ? Why then it is claimed that people gave them the record mandate ? Was it a 'stolen' mandate ?

See for details : AMAR DESH PUBLICATIONS

Also see: ::Welcome to Daily Naya Diganta::

PS:
The Naya Diaganta further reported that the son of Land minister has made himself a permanent fixture in his father's office in the Ministry. What the daily missed to report is : Someone asked the son why he comes and sits here every day ? " Well....I come to ask Dad the meaning of the word 'Nepotism'"---was the reply.

 

[Al-zakir]

Faruk now says it was his personal analysis


Prime example of an Dumb Moran that went nut. who asked that jerk *** for his worthless analysis. when everyone is going rite he decided to go left. He should hide his face to *** hole and disappear from the public.