Bangladesh Economic & Infrastructure Development - Updates & Discussions

[Bilal9]

I think in light of the proposed 8 storey limit it sound awkward. Dhaka must have not 8 storey towers, but 80 to accommodate your population density.

They need to spread out, as well as build upward.

The city is extremely dense, even considered smaller than many third-tier Chinese cities. It really needs to spread out. The new smart city mentioned above with super-talls is situated in one planned suburb. There are quite a few others being built and planned.

The six line Metro Rail being built (first line is ready) will help, as will the Bus Rapid Transit, in-city and circular Expressways around the city. Bus System needs a huge revamp, but efforts are underway.

One reason is that zoning is not enforced, and all apparel manufacturers need to vacate the city so they (and the workers who apply pressure on the city's utilities) can be accommodated in the SEZ's closer to the ports or logistics arteries.

 

[Paul2]

One reason is that zoning is not enforced, and all apparel manufacturers need to vacate the city so they (and the workers who apply pressure on the city's utilities) can be accommodated in the SEZ's closer to the ports or logistics arteries.

Not pushing out workers is super-important. You can easily kill the industry in a city if you let expensive developments to push out low class accommodations. CHEAP RENT == CHEAP WORKERS

 

[Bilal9]

Not pushing out workers is super-important. You can easily kill the industry in a city if you let expensive developments to push out low class accommodations. CHEAP RENT == CHEAP WORKERS

Bangladesh is creating 100 special economic zones all over Bangladesh where local people can work without coming to Dhaka.

Rent outside Dhaka is always cheaper than in Dhaka.

Wages in Bangladesh are far below China, and even a fraction of that of India.

This is however probably old information, but minimum wage is for unskilled worker. Trained workers will of course demand higher wages. The wage differential still stands as a ratio.

Industry in Dhaka have created the need for temporary slums in Dhaka where Workers live. Which are both unhealthy for the workers themselves and to the rest of the city.

However the govt. is also creating low-end housing for some middle income govt. workers in massive fashion. kind of like China did.

 

[Shorisrip]

Bangladesh is creating 100 special economic zones all over Bangladesh where local people can work without coming to Dhaka.

Rent outside Dhaka is always cheaper than in Dhaka.

Wages in Bangladesh are far below China, and even a fraction of that of India.

This is however probably old information, but minimum wage is for unskilled worker. Trained workers will of course demand higher wages. The wage differential still stands as a ratio.

Industry in Dhaka have created the need for temporary slums in Dhaka where Workers live. Which are both unhealthy for the workers themselves and to the rest of the city.

However the govt. is also creating low-end housing for some middle income govt. workers in massive fashion. kind of like China did.

Taposh said that he's planning a central business district on the banks of the Burigaganga from land taken back from land grabbers, any news on that? We need dedicated CBDs for other upcoming cities before its too late like in Dhaka, where buildings are spread randomly. These projects might seem vain, but a good commercial district really affects the city's perception, and can make or break it's image. Chittagong has Agrabad as a wholly commerical area and is seeing a boom in skyscrapers lately, but I hope they plan out a proper district like in Purbachal, when the city expands to the Southern Bank of the Karnaphuli, after the tunnel is completed.

 

[Bilal9]

Taposh said that he's planning a central business district on the banks of the Burigaganga from land taken back from land grabbers, any news on that? We need dedicated CBDs for other upcoming cities before its too late like in Dhaka, where buildings are spread randomly. These projects might seem vain, but a good commercial district really affects the city's perception, and can make or break it's image. Chittagong has Agrabad as a wholly commerical area and is seeing a boom in skyscrapers lately, but I hope they plan out a proper district like in Purbachal, when the city expands to the Southern Bank of the Karnaphuli, after the tunnel is completed.

Good points.

I don't know how much land was taken back from the land grabbers, but I suspect it probably was not sufficient to build a proper sized CBD. Taposh is sometimes given to colorful statements without having solid information from his underlings in the planning/zoning depts.

A modern CBD not only needs open areas for parking structures (for long distance commuters) and high-grade housing surrounding the CBD (housing for educated well paid workers who choose to live closer to the CBD), but also adjoining areas for rest and entertainment (restaurants, theaters, plazas, malls) which can support more well-heeled clientele.

Smart CBD's will need more in terms of data centers and supporting commercial/utility installations. If you see the plan for Burz Al Arab in Dubai, or even how our own Jolshiri and Purbachal CBDs were planned, they have those things.

LA-San Diego Corridor for example (where I live) has at least a dozen regional CBD's like this (this is a huge megacity spread out, not up). But CBD's are here mainly as commercial spaces for offices, with surrounding residential areas (the main portion). They have projected planning for everything from 1960's to the 2060's. How much salary people will make, where they will decide to live, what will be the projected occupancy and how busy the highways will be, when will the freeways need expansion etc.

In Bangladesh, city planners are usually not listened to and zoning is never enforced. RAJUK (Dhaka Improvement Trust) people can allot any land anywhere in Dhaka for any use for exchange of bribes, there is no oversight over that nefarious activity. There is no zoning enforcement because everyone in city hall, from the peon, all the up to the Mayor is party to this bribery. You can start an industrial concern right next to a residential area, provided the residents are uneducated and poor. May not work in places like Dhanmondi or Bashundhara, but works fine in Narayanganj, for example. Just criminal....

That being said - Mayor's office is still afraid of the media, if there is no serious legit effort by AL to muzzle the press.

I am afraid that a CBD (especially a smart CBD) can only be built using new land in the Northern areas of Dhaka, where relatively unpopulated areas still exist. Like Jolshiri and Purbachal, but further out. This is easier to do in unoccupied land.

 

[SpaceMan18]

Good points.

I don't know how much land was taken back from the land grabbers, but I suspect it probably was not sufficient to build a proper sized CBD. Taposh is sometimes given to colorful statements without having solid information from his underlings in the planning/zoning depts.

A modern CBD not only needs open areas for parking and high grade housing surrounding the CBD (for educated well paid workers, but adjoining areas for rest and entertainment. Smart CBD's will need more in terms of data centers and supporting commercial structures.

LA for example (where I live) has at least a dozen regional CBD's (this is a huge megacity spread out, not up). But CBD's are here mainly as commercial spaces for offices, with surrounding residential areas. They have projected planning for everything.

In Bangladesh, city planners are usually not listened to and zoning is never enforced. Rajuk people can allot any land anywhere in Dhaka for any use for exchange of bribes, there is no oversight over that nefarious activity. There is no zoning enforcement because everyone in city hall, from the peon, all the up to the Mayor is party to this bribery. You can start an industrial concern right next to a residential area, provided the residents are uneducated and poor. May not work in places like Dhanmondi

That being said - Mayor's office is still afraid of the media, if there is no serious legit effort by AL to muzzle the press.

I am afraid that a CBD can only be built using new land in the Northern areas of Dhaka, where relatively unpopulated areas still exist.

Bangladeshis needs to get serious , we can't even make a proper planned city which is fricking embarrassing.


We really have to force our dam zones otherwise we get a mess like Dhaka , only god knows how long it will take to fix Dhaka.

 

[Bilal9]

Hilton Gulshan

The 250-room Hilton Gulshan is located at Gulshan Avenue, one of the Northern central business districts (CBDs) and commercial zones of Dhaka city. There are 37 floors and it is 150 m tall.

Hilton Dhaka, Bangladesh is Premier Hotels & Resorts' first collaboration with Hilton Worldwide.

The hotel will offer one all-day dining restaurant, two specialty restaurants, a deli and lobby lounge, as well as a bar. It will also have a full service spa and fitness center, a roof-top pool, a ballroom, lifestyle meeting floor and car park facilities.

Current Status

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Navana Silverwood, Rd 8, Baridhara

8 storied apartment building with 3425 sq. ft. units, community hall, gym and rooftop swimming pool

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Meghbon Condominium by United Group, Satarkul

The residential development is on a 54 Acre site and is designed to be a high end residential development benchmarked against the condominiums in Singapore and Kuala Lumpur. The residential development comprise of 24 twin towers (the tallest being 40 storeys) and is seamlessly integrated with residential amenities including 2 levels of basement carparking. The residential development features 171,000 sq.m of landscaped area which is a major selling point given the lack of greenery space for residential living in Bangladesh and the landscape is designed by Surbana Jurong’s international landscape team from Singapore.

There are an estimated 1,750 apartments in this high end residential development and the buyers of this high end residential condominium development (Property developer is targeting high net worth individuals or wealthy families) will require interior design consultancy and interior fit out for their apartments.

 

[Bilal9]

ICON TOWERS BY RANCON DEVELOPMENTS, GULSHAN

The Icon Towers are a chic and elegant addition to RANCON’s rich portfolio of Limited Edition Luxury Residences.

The modish architecture registers an overwhelming impression and is not only bound to forge perceptions but form the very essence of the evolving neighborhood. Nestled in the heart of Dhaka, a stone’s throw from the nostalgic Gulshan Lake, these towers encapsulate the ultimate landscape in terms of society, culture, and commerce. Harmonizing the unique concept of luxury and affordability, the Icon Towers promise an iconic lifestyle in one of Dhaka’s most sought-after localities. This particular project was executed in a comparatively more youthful and ageless fashion for those patrons who prefer the crispness and functionality of simple designs.

 

[Bilal9]

ARTISTI RESIDENCES, GULSHAN (STYLE: NEOMODERNIST, as in all other RANCON projects nowadays)

RANCON envisioned what the future might hold with an 8,050 Sqft flagship residence in Gulshan-II, one of Dhaka's most elite localities. Artisti, accordingly, was designed to extend a calibre of luxurious lifestyle afforded only beyond national borders.

The opulent, tranquil, and considerate features apparent in these living spaces embody the highest possible standards, constituting an intelligent design that exudes taste and class. A haven that captures the notion of the perfect luxurious neomodernist apartments, Artisti had been expressively designed in order to appeal to the unostentatious connoisseur who prefers all his/her servings full-bodied.

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Adventure a seamless medley of nature and aesthetic beauty, drew up for you at JCX SIGNATURE, in BASHUNDHARA R/A.

Luxurious 3,000 Sft & 2850 Sft apartments, complemented with lifestyle amenities and uninterrupted views of BASHUNDHARA R/A, all at affordable pricing!

 

[Shorisrip]

Bangladesh government released its 8th 5-year plan for July 2020 - June 2025, a month ago if anyone's interested.

 

[Paul2]

Hilton Gulshan

The 250-room Hilton Gulshan is located at Gulshan Avenue, one of the Northern central business districts (CBDs) and commercial zones of Dhaka city. There are 37 floors and it is 150 m tall.

Hilton Dhaka, Bangladesh is Premier Hotels & Resorts' first collaboration with Hilton Worldwide.

The hotel will offer one all-day dining restaurant, two specialty restaurants, a deli and lobby lounge, as well as a bar. It will also have a full service spa and fitness center, a roof-top pool, a ballroom, lifestyle meeting floor and car park facilities.

Current Status

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Navana Silverwood, Rd 8, Baridhara

8 storied apartment building with 3425 sq. ft. units, community hall, gym and rooftop swimming pool

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Meghbon Condominium by United Group, Satarkul

The residential development is on a 54 Acre site and is designed to be a high end residential development benchmarked against the condominiums in Singapore and Kuala Lumpur. The residential development comprise of 24 twin towers (the tallest being 40 storeys) and is seamlessly integrated with residential amenities including 2 levels of basement carparking. The residential development features 171,000 sq.m of landscaped area which is a major selling point given the lack of greenery space for residential living in Bangladesh and the landscape is designed by Surbana Jurong’s international landscape team from Singapore.

There are an estimated 1,750 apartments in this high end residential development and the buyers of this high end residential condominium development (Property developer is targeting high net worth individuals or wealthy families) will require interior design consultancy and interior fit out for their apartments.

1750 apartments? That's less than 2 apartments per floor.

A 50 storey residential around Guangzhou can easily top 1000 in one building.

 

[SpaceMan18]

 

[Bilal9]

1750 apartments? That's less than 2 apartments per floor.

A 50 storey residential around Guangzhou can easily top 1000 in one building.

These are more like luxury condos rather than apartments. I don't know if you noticed but they're probably talking about 24 twin towers (so, 48 towers) and average floors of 25~30 EACH.

Luxury condos usually have one or maximum two per floor. In Dhaka minimum luxury condo square footage per condo is 3500 sqft to 5000 sqft.

There are Super Luxury Condos which have 8000 sqft. per condo sometimes.

 

[Paul2]

These are more like luxury condos rather than apartments. I don't know if you noticed but they're probably talking about 24 twin towers (so, 48 towers) and average floors of 25~30 EACH.

Luxury condos usually have one or maximum two per floor. In Dhaka minimum luxury condo square footage per condo is 3500 sqft to 5000 sqft.

There are Super Luxury Condos which have 8000 sqft. per condo sometimes.

That's huge, the biggest apartment I've ever seen was 550m² 2 storey mansion apartment in Shanghai, and it was not even owned.

Who in the world will buy those in Bangladesh?

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

why not build soviet style apartment complexes that are planned ?