Bangladesh court jails two Hindu teachers for criticising Islam

[livingdead]

You say La ilaha illilahu Muhammadur rasoolullah

I thought thats the answer to question 'pakistan ka matlab kya'? or is it different
I am horrible with tongue twisters though... she sells sea shells ....

 

[24 Hours]

I'm curious as to how that conversation really went. Was it the students who asked him those questions? If they did, the students brought the answer to themselves. Honestly, speaking as a Hindu he already doesn't believe in Muslim beliefs so, to say he was insulting Islam seems to be quite the exaggeration. But, I'll never know for sure since I'll never witness the original conversation.

I thought thats the answer to question 'pakistan ka matlab kya'? or is it different
I am horrible with tongue twisters though... she sells sea shells ....

It's a religious question meaning "There is absolutely no deity worthy of worship except Allah, and Mohamed (saws) is the Messenger of Allah." Which really doesn't answer the question if you are a non-Muslim.

 

[livingdead]

I'm curious as to how that conversation really went. Was it the students who asked him those questions? If they did, the students brought the answer to themselves. Honestly, speaking as a Hindu he already doesn't believe in Muslim beliefs so, to say he was insulting Islam seems to be quite the exaggeration. But, I'll never know for sure since I'll never witness the original conversation.


It's a religious question meaning "There is absolutely no deity worthy of worship except Allah, and Mohamed (saws) is the Messenger of Allah." Which really doesn't answer the question if you are a non-Muslim.

I was just messing with him mate..
I know what it means and I will invite further trouble by reciting that in front of others(got a natural sarcastic face )

I agree, they should only be punished if they were trying to proselytize kids(if there is specific bangladeshi law for that)

 

[Nexus]

lol, they mocked Islam.......in Muslim majority Country

 

[dray]

The question is why particularly the Hindu teachers are doing these.

You should focus on the subject that teacher teach rather than his religion, if a science teacher can't say that there is no heaven, then I believe Bangladesh should stop teaching science in school, because a hell lot of things in science books are blasphemous.

 

[24 Hours]

I was just messing with him mate..
I know what it means and I will invite further trouble by reciting that in front of others(got a natural sarcastic face )

I agree, they should only be punished if they were trying to proselytize kids(if there is specific bangladeshi law for that)

There's no law against proselytizing Muslims in BD. And they weren't kids, they were pretty much adults.

 

[Kaniska]

No respect is there for the other religion in the minds of "religious" people. They just pretend to be tolerant. True for both Muslims and Hindus. It is natural because, "Religion" itself is supporting of one ideology; Which makes other ideologies (religions) wrong in the eyes of believer.

Exactly....We are just living in a fools paradise to assume that every one will respect other religion

 

[Anubis]

You should focus on the subject that teacher teach rather than his religion, if a science teacher can't say that there is no heaven, then I believe Bangladesh should stop teaching science in school, because a hell lot of things in science books are blasphemous.

It would be intellectually dishonest for a science teacher to say that there is no heaven...and it would be unprofessional for a science teacher to comment on religion. The point is there is a struggle going on in the world to take religion out of science class(specifically regarding teaching of evolution)....inviting religious arguments in a science class does disservice to that struggle....Nobody expects science teachers to tell his/her students that unicorns/santa clause is not real...and religious mythology belongs in that category and outside of scientific discussion.
And regarding the fact of the religious identity of teachers it does matter in our "culturally sensitive" subcontinent...if I were to eat beef just to prove that there was no harm in it from a scientific point of view in certain parts of India there would be consequences...the fact that cows are to be held in some special regard has no scientific basis...but I wouldn't do that...because I am not stupid.

 

[Saiful Islam]

I thought thats the answer to question 'pakistan ka matlab kya'? or is it different
I am horrible with tongue twisters though... she sells sea shells ....

Hardly a tongue twister when hundreds of white people recite this daily. Pakistan doesn't equal Islam, I hope members on here can respect that opinion. It makes sense for Saudi, as the kaba sharif is there (bracing myself for the amount of people who will think or say wahaabi). But Pak has no relevance to Islamic theology what so ever. The situations in past decade has made Pakistan synonymous with political Islam.

 

[Riyad]

You should focus on the subject that teacher teach rather than his religion, if a science teacher can't say that there is no heaven, then I believe Bangladesh should stop teaching science in school, because a hell lot of things in science books are blasphemous.

Religion and science are two different things. A science teacher should not involve in discussing religion because its incompatible.

Islamic heaven is a place of immense pleasures. You will get everything in Heaven. Just you have to ask it and everything will be there.

2:25 - "(O Muhammad), Give glad tidings to those who believe in this Book and do good deeds in accordance with its teachings for them there will be Gardens beneath which rivers flow. Whenever they will be given fruits to eat they will say: "This is similar to the one we used to eat before on earth," for the fruits will resemble the fruits on the earth for their easy identification and enjoyment; and for them there will be chaste virgin spouses, and they shall live therein for ever."

Islamic heaven and Christian heaven are similar. The greatest difference between the Islamic heaven and the Christian Heaven is related to sensual and sexual pleasures. Men will have the companionship of their earthly wife or wives, as well as of many Houris (Beautiful virgin angels). However, marriage -- and presumably sex and procreation as well -- are not present in the Christian Heaven.

Now is it compatible with science? NO.

So a science teacher should stay away from discussing religion. Religion is entirely faith based. Science is evidence based.

 

[dray]

It would be intellectually dishonest for a science teacher to say that there is no heaven...and it would be unprofessional for a science teacher to comment on religion. The point is there is a struggle going on in the world to take religion out of science class(specifically regarding teaching of evolution)....inviting religious arguments in a science class does disservice to that struggle....Nobody expects science teachers to tell his/her students that unicorns/santa clause is not real...and religious mythology belongs in that category and outside of scientific discussion.
And regarding the fact of the religious identity of teachers it does matter in our "culturally sensitive" subcontinent...if I were to eat beef just to prove that there was no harm in it from a scientific point of view in certain parts of India there would be consequences...the fact that cows are to be held in some special regard has no scientific basis...but I wouldn't do that...because I am not stupid.

I am not talking about the overtly religious students and their parents, people sometimes show mob mentality, I am concerned about the state and its judiciary that, after 'careful evaluation', puts a science teacher in jail for saying there is no heaven.

You and I don't know the exact sequence of conversation in this case, but I think some student stood up and asked about the 'facts' that he knows about heaven and god's message as per his religion to challenge some scientific concept. And alas, heaven has no place in any of the science streams, that teacher has stated this simple truth. I in fact would expect a science teachers in a science class to tell his/her students that unicorns/santa clause is not real, otherwise that teacher and his/her students are not fit to deal with science. The 'theory of evolution' is not compatible with any of the religions, that makes every biology & life sciences teacher vulnerable to prosecution under the absolutely illogical and regressive blasphemy law in Bangladesh!! Btw, science is atheist by nature, it is challenging and destroying religious believes since ages, you cannot build a vibrant scientific ecosystem by letting religion interfere with it.

 

[third eye]

[QUOTE="Anubis, post: 8275791, member: 144014"]It would be intellectually dishonest for a science teacher to say that there is no heaven..[/QUOTE]

Why is that ?

 

[Zabaniyah]

Anyone can be killed for eating beef in India. Go to Pakistan or Bangladesh if you want to eat.

Man, you are truly awesome.

 

[kobiraaz]

there is difference between a teacher preaching atheism and answering a question honestly to best of his knowledge.
If he was preaching atheism(not correct for teacher to do), he should probably lose job but not be jailed.

Be sure that no one questioned a non muslim about Islam. It was his vested interest about denouning Islam that irked the pupils.

If he was asked about science and God a smart answer wouldbe "Science can't prove the existence of God. It remains a matter of faith "

But I am quite sure that The judge made sure that whether he was asked or he himself uttered words because of Antipathy.

 

[Luffy 500]

You should focus on the subject that teacher teach rather than his religion, if a science teacher can't say that there is no heaven, then I believe Bangladesh should stop teaching science in school, because a hell lot of things in science books are blasphemous.

@Rain Man , India or liberalism , none have the gold standard for judging what's the correct method for teaching science. Many things are indeed downright ludicrous in science books. There r absurd pseudoscience that the western world has sanctioned as science for ideological reasons , eg. the theory of evolution.