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You have no idea what you talking about...
well unfortunately that goes back to you,may be you should run a deep check,and even before that you should understand every word i have written :partay:
 
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well unfortunately that goes back to you,may be you should run a deep check,and even before that you should understand every word i have written :partay:

Its a private company from america. I dont think any government from any country eastern or western have achieved that feat let alone a private company.
You still live in a well.
 
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What you are basically saying here is,For democracy You support one country to invade another to "implement democracy" and "democracised" them.
That is what i have got from your words,please correct me if i have got it wrong.
Was it not your Muslim Saddam of Iraq who invaded another Muslim country in its neighborhood? How about your fanatic ISIS group who get money from Israel to kill other Muslims? How about the Islamwala Syria's Assad? You talk as if the Muslims are not the most fanatic people of all?

How about Yemen, how about Saudi Arabia bullying Qatar. Here you are supporting all these innocent Muslim countries and blaming the USA for all evils to them. Does the world need America when there are so many fanatic Muslim countries in the world?
 
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''They could be a threat'' is not any valid arguement to drop nuclear bomb in current times when strength of atom bomb is 100 times greater than what was dropped in Heroshima.USA did not dropped atomic bomb in Japan with mere assumption that Japan could be threat. Japanese were already waging aggresive war for 14 years.They started their campaign of military subjugation of Asia by invading and occupying Manchuria back in 1931.By 1937, they captured most of the China with immense killing and destruction brought upon in Chinese mainland.By 1942, they were bombing Chittagong and Cox's Bazar after capturing vast swath of Asia up to Burma.Do you think, after all of these, US acted on just mere assumption that, Japanese ''could be a threat''? Who attacked pearl Harbor and brought US into direct conflict in ww2 ? Pearl Harbor was not much a less destruction than what American did in Heroshima with atom bomb.

No one can drop atom bomb to anyone with mere suspicion that they can be a threat.This is your bad logic.Western world is not run by that bad logic.If anyone initiate nuclear attack in current world, You can be certain that it would be only your favorite North Korean regime.Because they are the mad and reckless one in present time to think such an act.Western countries are holding the largest nuclear stockpile, but they are also the most responsible user of that power.No country in this world fear any nuclear attack from any western countries.But it can't be said for countries like North Korea.
Come on brah,this is defense forum,you need to look from defense perspective.
when i said 'They could be a threat'' i did not mean they thought they would be a threat.
Come on ,stay with me.This is crazy.
"Pearl Harbor" destruction?do you know the root cause that caused it? Why don't you consult someone who actually were there or somehow related to second world war so they can give you some insight? Do you really believe the history you read in book or in internet are always 100% correct?
"Western world is not run by that bad logic"
That's where you got it wrong brah,western country don't run by logic at all.that's why you can't predict their move.Israel is prime example.

Lets me get this straight,What you are saying,because they knew(amerikka) that Japanese would be a threat,they dropped "Atom bomb" and killed hundreds of thousands to save millions.
This is your logic?Ever been with intelligence or armed forces before brah?


it can't be said for countries like North Korea
who is exactly afraid of nuclear strike by NoKo.You?

Was it not your Muslim Saddam of Iraq who invaded another Muslim country in its neighborhood? How about your fanatic ISIS group who get money from Israel to kill other Muslims? How about the Islamwala Syria's Assad? You talk as if the Muslims are not the most fanatic people of all?

How about Yemen, how about Saudi Arabia bullying Qatar. Here you are supporting all these innocent Muslim countries and blaming the USA for all evils to them. Does the world need America when there are so many fanatic Muslim countries in the world?


i think you are having heart attack in your brain brah.
Your story reminds me of a story.

Two kids playing cricket,suddenly they start to quarrel with each other.
Another bully from nowhere go there and start beating them both.

/////Was it not your Muslim Saddam of Iraq who invaded another Muslim country in its neighborhood? How about your fanatic ISIS group who get money from Israel to kill other Muslims?
fanatic ISIS group who get money from Israel to kill other Muslims?
How about Yemen, how about Saudi Arabia bullying Qatar. Here you are supporting all these innocent Muslim countries and blaming the USA for all evils to them///


I AM ASKING YOU A QUESTION FACE TO FACE AND ASKING STRAIGHT ANSWER AND WHAT YOU ARE GIVING ME IS SOME EMOTIONAL BS.

SAUDI PHUCK QATAR.
YEMEN BLOW UP HOUTIS
SADDAM PHUCKED IRAN
SO????
IT WAS INSIDER BUSINESS OF MIDDLE EAST.
IT ALL HAPPENED IN MIDDLE EAST.

WHAT IN THE PHUCK AMEIKKAN B@STARDS DOING IN MIDDLE EAST?WHY ARE THEY THERE?

IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND MY SIMPLE QUESTION.
I DON'T GIVE A PHUCK TO US GO TO WAR WITH WHOM.
I AM ASKING WHY THEY ARE MIDDLE EAST. :angry:



Its a private company from america. I dont think any government from any country eastern or western have achieved that feat let alone a private company.
You still live in a well.

That is why i said first make sure you understand what i am pointing to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

please make sure you study his background.

America never had the brain to withstand the competition.
I am very well aware of how far this country can go,my own brother did bachelor from Louisiana tech and PGD from harvard before working in General Motors.You have no idea about the real world brah.It's no Hollywood movie.

A country has huge amount natural resources,attracts brain all over the world.
But when alternative power emerges,It can't stand the competition.
Ring a bell?
Simple hint : Einstein.
 
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Come on brah,this is defense forum,you need to look from defense perspective.
when i said 'They could be a threat'' i did not mean they thought they would be a threat.
Come on ,stay with me.This is crazy.
"Pearl Harbor" destruction?do you know the root cause that caused it? Why don't you consult someone who actually were there or somehow related to second world war so they can give you some insight? Do you really believe the history you read in book or in internet are always 100% correct?
"Western world is not run by that bad logic"
That's where you got it wrong brah,western country don't run by logic at all.that's why you can't predict their move.Israel is prime example.

Lets me get this straight,What you are saying,because they knew(amerikka) that Japanese would be a threat,they dropped "Atom bomb" and killed hundreds of thousands to save millions.
This is your logic?Ever been with intelligence or armed forces before brah?


it can't be said for countries like North Korea
who is exactly afraid of nuclear strike by NoKo.You?




i think you are having heart attack in your brain brah.
Your story reminds me of a story.

Two kids playing cricket,suddenly they start to quarrel with each other.
Another bully from nowhere go there and start beating them both.

/////Was it not your Muslim Saddam of Iraq who invaded another Muslim country in its neighborhood? How about your fanatic ISIS group who get money from Israel to kill other Muslims?
fanatic ISIS group who get money from Israel to kill other Muslims?
How about Yemen, how about Saudi Arabia bullying Qatar. Here you are supporting all these innocent Muslim countries and blaming the USA for all evils to them///


I AM ASKING YOU A QUESTION FACE TO FACE AND ASKING STRAIGHT ANSWER AND WHAT YOU ARE GIVING ME IS SOME EMOTIONAL BS.

SAUDI PHUCK QATAR.
YEMEN BLOW UP HOUTIS
SADDAM PHUCKED IRAN
SO????
IT WAS INSIDER BUSINESS OF MIDDLE EAST.
IT ALL HAPPENED IN MIDDLE EAST.

WHAT IN THE PHUCK AMEIKKAN B@STARDS DOING IN MIDDLE EAST?WHY ARE THEY THERE?

IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND MY SIMPLE QUESTION.
I DON'T GIVE A PHUCK TO US GO TO WAR WITH WHOM.
I AM ASKING WHY THEY ARE MIDDLE EAST. :angry:




That is why i said first make sure you understand what i am pointing to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

please make sure you study his background.

America never had the brain to withstand the competition.
I am very well aware of what far this country can do,my own brother did bachelor from Louisiana tech and PGD from harvard before working in General Motors.You have no idea about the real world brah.It's no Hollywood movie.

A country has huge amount natural resources,attracts brain all over the world.
But when alternative power emerges,It can't stand the competition.
Ring a bell?
Simple hint : Einstein.
With these incoherent rants, it seems you are an infantile person. I am not wasting anymore time by endless squabble with you. I have already made clear my points sufficiently in these subjects.My only suggestion to you,Keep broadening your knowledge base.
 
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With these incoherent rants, it seems you are an infantile person. I am not wasting anymore time by endless squabble with you. I have already made clear my points sufficiently in these subjects.My only suggestion to you,Keep broadening your knowledge base.
You can't build a base out of air brah.
One of the reason i avoid argument with publics.
They talk more than they know. :angry: TC.
 
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Switzerland is proof positive that democracy is an ***.... also Swiss are one of the most racist of European nations...

Sure, racism is rampant in almost every nation in Europe. If anything, Swiss are pretty chilled bunch. Have nothing to do with EU and its nonsense. We are talking about democracy here.
 
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Sure, racism is rampant in almost every nation in Europe. If anything, Swiss are pretty chilled bunch. Have nothing to do with EU and its nonsense. We are talking about democracy here.
well as far as i know their "democracy" is designed for their own people.
And they normally don't give sh!t about other EU countries.
All over i like their productive model better than others. :lol:
 
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well as far as i know their "democracy" is designed for their own people.
And they normally don't give sh!t about other EU countries.
All over i like their productive model better than others. :lol:

Exactly. They only care about their people, something that should be appreciated. That means you have no business going about poking your nose in others' matters. No wonder Switzerland is one of the richest country in the world with probably the highest salary standards, and its passport probably one of the hardest to get in a legal way.
 
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Exactly. They only care about their people, something that should be appreciated. That means you have no business going about poking your nose in others' matters. No wonder Switzerland is one of the richest country in the world with probably the highest salary standards, and its passport probably the one of, if not the hardest, to get in a legal way.
That is what i have been trying to tell to democracy lovers above who actually don't understand system.
As long as you don't interfere in my business you are racist,this,that or whatever ,i don't even give a damn.
Just because other countries have implemented a system and have got success doesn't mean we will get success implementing it too.Because our people is different,have different life style.
We need to design our "democracy" that suits our people to get the best output from them.
Switzerland perfectly has done that despite being a European country ,and i applaud it.
I hope my fellow country men use their brain and follow same strategy rather than blindly implementing western rulings. :cheers:
 
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That is what i have been trying to tell to democracy lovers above who actually don't understand system.
As long as you don't interfere in my business you are racist,this,that or whatever ,i don't even give a damn.
Just because other countries have implemented a system and have got success doesn't mean we will get success implementing it too.Because our people is different,have different life style.
We need to design our "democracy" that suits our people to get the best output from them.
Switzerland perfectly has done that despite being a European country ,and i applaud it.
I hope my fellow country men use their brain and follow same strategy rather than blindly implementing western rulings. :cheers:

That is actually true. We need to build a democracy that fits our objective and priorities as a nation. I am not a fan of blindly following other nations, especially western ones, mainly due to the social and religious strings in our part of the world. We need to customize our approach, keep the sentiments of our people in mind and find a way that helps us go up the economic and societal ladder.
 
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That is actually true. We need to build a democracy that fits our objective and priorities as a nation. I am not a fan of blindly following other nations, especially western ones, mainly due to the social and religious strings in our part of the world. We need to customize our approach, keep the sentiments of our people in mind and find a way that helps us go up the economic and societal ladder.
Democratic norm can be slightly different from country to country and can be customized to it's own need.But it should not compromise to the fundamental pillars of democratic values.Such as-

1.Elected representative of the people directly accountable to his/her electorate.
2.Rules of law which apply universally across the caste,creed,gender,ideology,opinion,race,ethnicity etc.
3.Freedom of conscience and freedom of expression
4.Transparency and accountability
5.Tolerance to opposite opinion, lifestyle or ideology.
6.Free press and electronic media
7.Non aggressive foreign policy and genuine commitment to global peace and prosperity.

If any country can customize their democratic set-up by maintaining these core democratic values intact, then no problem.
 
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That is why i said first make sure you understand what i am pointing to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

please make sure you study his background.

America never had the brain to withstand the competition.
I am very well aware of how far this country can go,my own brother did bachelor from Louisiana tech and PGD from harvard before working in General Motors.You have no idea about the real world brah.It's no Hollywood movie.

A country has huge amount natural resources,attracts brain all over the world.
But when alternative power emerges,It can't stand the competition.
Ring a bell?
Simple hint : Einstein.

So your brother told you all those fairy tales??? :)
 
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While US forced Serbia to stop massacring Kosovo muslim by bombing shit out of Serbia despite vehement opposition from that 2 genocidal maniac loving countries.

Funny thing is during 1998 (before the NATO bombing) under the Serb rule over Kosovo and Metohija, total civilian casualties are 1278 people (1100 Albanians, 132 Serbs and 46 other nationalities). Have in mind that many Albanians were killed by KLA because they were deemed pro-Serb oriented, or in fight for power between KLA and Ibrahim Rugova, some of them also died as a collateral damage in fights between Yugoslav army and KLA. Af corse i am not denying crimes committed by Serb forces, i am just trying to give a complete picture.

But here is another interesting data, after the and of war, and retreat of Serb forces from Kosovo and under the rule of UN peacekeeping forces led by NATO countries in period 15. June 1999 - 31. December 1999, 1306 civilans were killed on Kosovo. 715 Serbs, 318 Albanians, 273 other nationalities. Where were the US forces to stop those killings?
 
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Funny thing is during 1998 (before the NATO bombing) under the Serb rule over Kosovo and Metohija, total civilian casualties are 1278 people (1100 Albanians, 132 Serbs and 46 other nationalities). Have in mind that many Albanians were killed by KLA because they were deemed pro-Serb oriented, or in fight for power between KLA and Ibrahim Rugova, some of them also died as a collateral damage in fights between Yugoslav army and KLA. Af corse i am not denying crimes committed by Serb forces, i am just trying to give a complete picture.

But here is another interesting data, after the and of war, and retreat of Serb forces from Kosovo and under the rule of UN peacekeeping forces led by NATO countries in period 15. June 1999 - 31. December 1999, 1306 civilans were killed on Kosovo. 715 Serbs, 318 Albanians, 273 other nationalities. Where were the US forces to stop those killings?
Independent research put the Kosovar civilian casualty at 10 thousands and most of the Kosovar had to flee across the border.Ten thousand casualty in a population of less than 2 million is not small.

Whatever, Serbia is much more peaceful, democratic and responsible country now.It is an aspirant of EU membership. Bad things happened during the rule of Slovodan Milosevic. After his ouster,Serbia is on a good track.So I have no bad feeling for Serbia now.I wish your country's success and prosperity.Cheers mate.
 
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