Bangladesh Army

[leonblack08]

Bangladesh Army Modernization efforts in the last decade

Source: Onirban uploaded by Defseca.com

 

[Shorisrip]

Anybody know the effectiveness of the upgraded Type 59s (Durjoy)? How do they compare to modern MBTs.

 

[Bilal9]

Anybody know the effectiveness of the upgraded Type 59s (Durjoy)? How do they compare to modern MBTs.

Locally upgraded Durjoys sport new sensors, Kontakt ERA, new 125mm smoothbore gun capable of firing APFSDS and HEAT rounds, laser designators, thermal imaging, fire control computer and new turret (maybe from ZTZ-96?). It sports Combat networking links, Night Vision and GPS. Only the hull is the old Type 59 but sports a new 730 HP engine/powerplant. Great bang for the buck.

@Ronin bhai might know better how effective on the ground (as opposed to on paper) it is. Thanks..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_59G(BD)_Durjoy#Description

 

[BlackViking]

Yeah, just note that altay will not be bought in huge numbers. 1 regiment only.
2 regiments of mbt 2000 planned...

Is altay even in production?

 

[Dazzler]

 

[IblinI]

 

[BlackViking]

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=172645610961617

The Epitaphs will say "Cox's Bazaar", If the uncivilised neighbours try anything funny.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Bangladesh Army's combat engineers received delivery of some new trucks from IVECO Italy recently.
Those painted white will be sent to UN peacekeeping missions, whilst the MB green painted trucks will be retained for use inside Bangladesh for military engineer service works.
The Bangladesh Army only imports trucks and engineering equipment from Europe and USA at present.
Most of the Bangladesh Army's logistic fleet comprises of trucks from France, Italy and Germany. They include famous brands such as Renault, IVECO, MAN and Mercedes Benz. Some Turkish made trucks were also procured in smaller numbers.
#DEFSECA #BangladeshArmy

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Bangladesh Army's combat engineers received delivery of some new trucks from IVECO Italy recently.
Those painted white will be sent to UN peacekeeping missions, whilst the MB green painted trucks will be retained for use inside Bangladesh for military engineer service works.
The Bangladesh Army only imports trucks and engineering equipment from Europe and USA at present.
Most of the Bangladesh Army's logistic fleet comprises of trucks from France, Italy and Germany. They include famous brands such as Renault, IVECO, MAN and Mercedes Benz. Some Turkish made trucks were also procured in smaller numbers.
#DEFSECA #BangladeshArmy

These things should be build locally. We are probably spending at least three times more procuring these trucks from Europe and USA compared to what would have costed if those were build in Bangladesh. If we remain such dependent for even trucks from overseas, then we will never be able to maintain a force adequate to our need quantity wise. Bangladesh seriously need to beef up it's indigenous defence industry.

 

[Bilal9]

These things should be build locally. We are probably spending at least three times more procuring these trucks from Europe and USA compared to what would have costed if those were build in Bangladesh. If we remain such dependent for even trucks from overseas, then we will never be able to maintain a force adequate to our need quantity wise. Bangladesh seriously need to beef up it's indigenous defence industry.

Bangladesh had standardized on the ISUZU-made defense trucks (Isuzu FSS) two decades ago, these are built under license locally as 'Arunima Bolyan'. Over the years, local content has slowly increased. This is a decision of economics, and I realize, eventually local trucks will be made from scratch, but that depends on type. Indian trucks will probably not be accepted in the military.

 

[bluesky]

These things should be build locally. We are probably spending at least three times more procuring these trucks from Europe and USA compared to what would have costed if those were build in Bangladesh. If we remain such dependent for even trucks from overseas, then we will never be able to maintain a force adequate to our need quantity wise. Bangladesh seriously need to beef up it's indigenous defence industry.

Yes, you are very right. We must build these trucks in BD. BD can start with assembling plants by local or FDI. The assembly plants will import the CKD trucks initially. But, GRADUALLY the owners would seek out small/large mechanical and electrical companies who would manufacture the body and engine parts/components in their respective workshops. This is how someday the country will build 100% made in Bangladesh trucks.

A motor vehicle requires more than 20,000 pieces of parts, although it may be less for trucks. No motor company ever started by producing entire motor vehicles exclusively in its own plant. They always seek out and nurture vendors.

The GoB should find out rich private companies supported by banks to take initiative in constructing assembling plant(s).

 

[Michael Corleone]

These things should be build locally. We are probably spending at least three times more procuring these trucks from Europe and USA compared to what would have costed if those were build in Bangladesh. If we remain such dependent for even trucks from overseas, then we will never be able to maintain a force adequate to our need quantity wise. Bangladesh seriously need to beef up it's indigenous defence industry.

It totally depends on economy of scale... army requirements for such heavy duty trucks alone isn’t a practical reason to establish an assembly plant. You would have to be domestic demand for that... it also doesn’t make sense to produce each and every part in bd, a chassis manufacturing plant is enough for example. I see the demand for heavy duty trucks increasing with time however... once the deep sea ports are in operation

 

[Bilal9]

It totally depends on economy of scale... army requirements for such heavy duty trucks alone isn’t a practical reason to establish an assembly plant. You would have to be domestic demand for that... it also doesn’t make sense to produce each and every part in bd, a chassis manufacturing plant is enough for example. I see the demand for heavy duty trucks increasing with time however... once the deep sea ports are in operation

I believe some sort of prime movers (18-wheeler head unit) may already be starting to be assembled locally.

Tata may be one of them (Nitol motors low volume assembly in Western Bangladesh somewhere). But as others have pointed out, we should get started by producing auto parts first. That is how Korea auto industry started in the 1960s and 1970's, by being supplier to Japanese Auto Majors. Hyundai was supplier to Mitsubishi and their first car was a combination of Mitsubishi parts.

Back in the day (2015) they tried to launch/market the high end Tata prime mover 'Prima' in Bangladesh.

https://indianautosblog.com/tata-prima-bangladesh-p179370

Well I guess no one would buy an Indian truck for that high a price, so Nitol resorted to selling a lower end prime mover, which kind of succeeded. Locally, people will take the hit for Tata's 'lack of quality', up to a price point.

But ideally, for govt. or defence use, we should not be patronizing a vendor which supplies the Indian Armed forces with technology needs. This has been and will remain Bangladesh Armed Forces policy.

Now this brings me to asking PDF brothers if Pakistan assembles prime movers, Good question.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I believe some sort of prime movers (18-wheeler head unit) may already be starting to be assembled locally.

Tata may be one of them (Nitol motors low volume assembly in Western Bangladesh somewhere). But as others have pointed out, we should get started by producing auto parts first. That is how Korea auto industry started in the 1960s and 1970's, by being supplier to Japanese Auto Majors. Hyundai was supplier to Mitsubishi and their first car was a combination of Mitsubishi parts.

Back in the day (2015) they tried to launch/market the high end Tata prime mover 'Prima' in Bangladesh.

https://indianautosblog.com/tata-prima-bangladesh-p179370

Well I guess no one would buy an Indian truck for that high a price, so Nitol resorted to selling a lower end prime mover, which kind of succeeded. Locally, people will take the hit for Tata's 'lack of quality', up to a price point.

But ideally, for govt. or defence use, we should not be patronizing a vendor which supplies the Indian Armed forces with technology needs. This has been and will remain Bangladesh Armed Forces policy.

Now this brings me to asking PDF brothers if Pakistan assembles prime movers, Good question.

He problem is Bangladesh own tax laws. They prohibit second hand trucks older than 5 years afaik... on top of that tax rate is basically extortion, otherwise it’s easy to source second hand Mercedes haulers from Europe at good rate.