Bangladesh Army confirmed purchasing of Chinese made VT-5 Light Tanks and kasirga T-300 MLRS

[bluesky]

You taunted me by saying that my knowledge on defence is shit however you are the same arsehole who wants Chhatra league to fight on behalf of BD army Lolz hahaha. This is your knowledge on defence?

BDR, BAF, BN, BA shob shesh ar ekhon shoja Chhatra league?

You are wrong on Chatro League/Jubo League counts. They are above all other forces. Their people, Nanak and Taposh, orchestrated Pilkhana Carnage that killed 52 military officers. They will fight eagerly to safeguard the Indian interest.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

You are wrong on Chatro League/Jubo League counts. They are above all other forces. Their people, Nanak and Taposh, orchestrated Pilkhana Carnage that killed 52 military officers. They will fight eagerly to safeguard the Indian interest.

Chattra league are paid goons, they will safeguard anyone's interest if paid adequately.

It's funny they aren't even "chattro" students in the real sense of the word, most of them range from late 20s to mid 40s, some students these are.

I don't get why they don't ban student politics in Bangladesh, there would undoubtedly be an observable increase in the quality of university level education should student politics be banned.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Chattra league are paid goons, they will safeguard anyone's interest if paid adequately.

It's funny they aren't even "chattro" students in the real sense of the word, most of them range from late 20s to mid 40s, some students these are.

I don't get why they don't ban student politics in Bangladesh, there would undoubtedly be an observable increase in the quality of university level education should student politics be banned.

Tbh student politics exist in India too but their activities are only restricted to protests and they don't have too much of power unlike in Bangladesh.

 

[TopCat]

Where do you find irrationality. Your Hasina Bibi and you yourself are irrational. Unless the country gains experience with basic technologies of producing needles or locomotives, there is no reason to believe it will be able to do good on higher technologies in an expansive way. BD Railway bought Locomotives from America only yesterday. America the superpower builds these but a poor blackish BD people shy away from doing the same and you put argument on its favor is not plausible.

A semi-superpower China produces small sewing machines and needles, but you think BD's 160 million people need not produce them is not plausible to me. Do not please say stupid things as if there is a short-cut route to develop. BD always needs these two items. So, they must be produced here. The thing is, we are going after a night dream imagination.

I am not going to be lengthy. But, BD has a huge population in a small area. Singapore is also small and overpopulated but it has used these to its advantage. This area and vast population factor in BD must be properly used to build economy.

Hasina Bibi's so-called 4IR technology is a 21 century joke to hoodwink the population. All those small IT activities do not belong to 4IR. Even Japan with such an educated group of population is struggling with the 4IR. 4IR is needed in developed countries where they have a huge number of 1IR, 2IR and 3IR industries that they are unable to fully operate because of lowered population number. So, they need 4IR technologies to run machines with the help of 4IR technology. Why are you putting the cart before the horse in BD?

Bd cannot even produce needles with such a huge manpower. Does it need then 4IR when millions remain unemployed? All bullshit. Instead, BD should think more about home electrical appliances that can be consumed domestically and will improve the quality of life. Home appliances belong in between 2IR and 3IR.

By the way, can BD produce even very small needles or locomotive? Ask your govt to do it. A country of 160 million cannot produce small things should stop talking of development with large things. Development is for countries like China, India and Vietnam.

BD is full of your kind of short-sighted people who do not see even when shown the path. Development is not for the big talking, egoist and good-for-nothing people. Watering date trees in Arabian deserts will remain their only achievement.

Its not that BD can not make a steam engine.. it can actually and it already reached to that level of technological stage. Its just not economic or lost its use. You could ask if BD could make a locomotive diesel engine.. it could probably if right amount of investment in place and make economic sense.
Could it make a gas turbine or jet engine? No I dont think it can at this stage.
But these are not important when it comes to development. The only phrase that made sense of your earlier comment is that BD still a predominantly peasant society. As long as we cant change that we wont be able to say ourselves a developed country, that's for sure.
Even with better technology Indian society is more peasant than us, which proves that heavy industry does not proportionately change your society's well being. It all about how many people you could pull out from farming and put them in the industrial sectors. That was done successfully in China by promoting low tech garments and massive light engineering sectors.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Its not that BD can not make a steam engine.. it can actually and it already reached to that level of technological stage. Its just not economic or lost its use. You could ask if BD could make a locomotive diesel engine.. it could probably if right amount of investment in place and make economic sense.
Could it make a gas turbine or jet engine? No I dont think it can at this stage.
But these are not important when it comes to development. The only phrase that made sense of your earlier comment is that BD still a predominantly peasant society. As long as we cant change that we wont be able to say ourselves a developed country, that's for sure.
Even with better technology Indian society is more peasant than us, which proves that heavy industry does not proportionately change your society's well being. It all about how many people you could pull out from farming and put them in the industrial sectors. That was done successfully in China by promoting low tech garments and massive light engineering sectors.

Finally, you're talking some sense now.

 

[R4hil]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...ith-bangladesh-draws-hasinas-ire-2222589.html
The US proposed for Bangladesh to get the Rakhine state and Out glorious prime minister disrespected congress reminding them of the American Civil war and saying that we are happy with what we have . Absolute shame that we are playing diplomacy as absolute cowards even when we had a prime opportunity in our hands

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...ith-bangladesh-draws-hasinas-ire-2222589.html
The US proposed for Bangladesh to get the Rakhine state and Out glorious prime minister disrespected congress reminding them of the American Civil war and saying that we are happy with what we have . Absolute shame that we are playing diplomacy as absolute cowards even when we had a prime opportunity in our hands

Nothing was going to come of this anyway, Hasina avoided a diplomatic rift by shutting this proposition which lacks any substance down.

He's an American congressman not the premier of Myanmar, he can not force Myanmar into giving up on their sovereign territories.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...ith-bangladesh-draws-hasinas-ire-2222589.html
The US proposed for Bangladesh to get the Rakhine state and Out glorious prime minister disrespected congress reminding them of the American Civil war and saying that we are happy with what we have . Absolute shame that we are playing diplomacy as absolute cowards even when we had a prime opportunity in our hands

It's a US trap. PM Hasina knows this.

You are thinking too straightforward. The USA does not conduct any geopolitical adventures without being materialistic.

USA wants to milk out benefits from this Rohingya crisis. Simple as that.

Nothing was going to come of this anyway, Hasina avoided a diplomatic rift by shutting this proposition which lacks any substance down.

He's an American congressman not the premier of Myanmar, he can not force Myanmar into giving up on their sovereign territories.

If PM Hasina would have accepted the US Congressman's proposal and started a war with Myanmar to gain Rakhine, then the situation would become more chaotic. Also it would create lots of political instability in the region.

Nothing was going to come of this anyway, Hasina avoided a diplomatic rift by shutting this proposition which lacks any substance down.

He's an American congressman not the premier of Myanmar, he can not force Myanmar into giving up on their sovereign territories.

This is not some conquest of Alexander. We cannot invade a nation if we casually wish to do so. We have to understand the complications and the aftermath of such an action. Unfortunately Bangladeshi people thinks that military action is like child's play which can be conducted anywhere and anytime.

 

[bluesky]

I don't get why they don't ban student politics in Bangladesh, there would undoubtedly be an observable increase in the quality of university level education should student politics be banned.

It is only because our @TopCat does not want it. He thinks students' politics is the reason that democracy is spreading throughout the society.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Could it make a gas turbine or jet engine? No I dont think it can at this stage.
But these are not important when it comes to development. The only phrase that made sense of your earlier comment is that BD still a predominantly peasant society. As long as we cant change that we wont be able to say ourselves a developed country, that's for sure.
Even with better technology Indian society is more peasant than us, which proves that heavy industry does not proportionately change your society's well being. It all about how many people you could pull out from farming and put them in the industrial sectors. That was done successfully in China by promoting low tech garments and massive light engineering sectors.

Actually we need massive expansion of service sector and improve our labor productivity in industrial sector. Our share of work force in industry is about the same as any industrialized developed country. Our GDP coming from industry is also comparable with them. What we need is to pull out a lot of work force from the agriculture and employ them in service sector. currently whopping 40 percent of our work force in agriculture, 21 percent in industry and only 39 percent in service sector. For an average developed country, agricultural work force is less than 5 percent, industry around 15-25 percent while service sector employs 70-80 percent of total work force. Our 40 percent work force in agriculture is generating only 14% percent of GDP. Declining share of agriculture within GDP despite Bangladesh being largely self sufficient in key agricultural products is very good. It indicate the rapid expansion of non agricultural sector, but the problem is still 40 percent work force is relied upon it. We need to pull these workers from it and employ some of them in industry and most of them in service sector. Our current policy of agricultural mechanization will accelerate this positive trend. Although in a short term, many of those pulled from agriculture will not be able to find works, as rapid shedding of labor force from agriculture will outstrip the demand in service and industrial sector even in a first growing economy. We need to channel those workers into overseas employment.

 

[TopCat]

Actually we need massive expansion of service sector and improve our labor productivity in industrial sector. Our share of work force in industry is about the same as any industrialized developed country. Our GDP coming from industry is also comparable with them. What we need is to pull out a lot of work force from the agriculture and employ them in service sector. currently whopping 40 percent of our work force in agriculture, 21 percent in industry and only 39 percent in service sector. For an average developed country, agricultural work force is less than 5 percent, industry around 15-25 percent while service sector employs 70-80 percent of total work force. Our 40 percent work force in agriculture is generating only 14% percent of GDP. Declining share of agriculture within GDP despite Bangladesh being largely self sufficient in key agricultural products is very good. It indicate the rapid expansion of non agricultural sector, but the problem is still 40 percent work force is relied upon it. We need to pull these workers from it and employ some of them in industry and most of them in service sector. Our current policy of agricultural mechanization will accelerate this positive trend. Although in a short term, many of those pulled from agriculture will not be able to find works, as rapid shedding of labor force from agriculture will outstrip the demand in service and industrial sector even in a first growing economy. We need to channel those workers into overseas employment.

You are trying to skip a development stage. You cant pull farmers out of field and put them in knowledge based service sector but you can always make them vegetable vendor or rickshaw puller. That is why the ideal model is Farmers->industial labor->service. India is a prime example of your failed model.
But we can always supplement our model by putting some of the skilled educated work force to outsourcing based service sector but that must not make ourselves to loose our focus from the basic development model.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

You are trying to skip a development stage. You cant pull farmers out of field and put them in knowledge based service sector but you can always make them vegetable vendor or rickshaw puller. That is why the ideal model is Farmers->industial labor->service. India is a prime example of your failed model.
But we can always supplement our model by putting some of the skilled educated work force to outsourcing based service sector but that must not make ourselves to loose our focus from the basic development model.

Why are you assuming Service sector jobs only means knowledge based service jobs? Most of the service jobs require little or even no academic education. If a farmer's son become a mobile cell phone mechanic, electrician, transport workers, run a barber shop or grocery store or become a street vendors, are not these the example of transition from agriculture to service sector? Of course some of the children of farmers who can get the higher education will join the knowledge based service jobs. But most of them will fill the service jobs those require little academic knowledge or capital.

 

[TopCat]

Why are you assuming Service sector jobs only means knowledge based service jobs? Most of the service jobs require little or even no academic education. If a farmer's son become a mobile cell phone mechanic, electrician, transport workers, run a barber shop or grocery store or become a street vendors, are not these the example of transition from agriculture to service sector? Of course some of the children of farmers who can get the higher education will join the knowledge based service jobs. But most of them will fill the service jobs those require little academic knowledge or capital.

Thats the kind of service sector we are based on right now (entire south asia), almost 52% of our GDP comes from these low life service sector. They are even worst than farming with hardly any pay with extreme poverty. Only the landless people without any option are taking these kind of profession. I would rather have them in organized sector.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

I only say one thing - premature deindustrialization is idiocy. Reference: South Africa, Brazil....

First, developed countries have fully developed agriculture and manufacturing. then promote the development of the service industry. This is the correct order.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Thats the kind of service sector we are based on right now (entire south asia), almost 52% of our GDP comes from these low life service sector. They are even worst than farming with hardly any pay with extreme poverty. Only the landless people without any option are taking these kind of profession. I would rather have them in organized sector.

Even in developed world there are grocery seller, electrician, barber, transport workers, street vendors etc. etc. Just because these type of service works require little academic qualification or unorganized does not mean, society can function without them. Of course, with the development progression, more and more people will be absorbed in organized sectors, I did not under count their importance. My argument was, bulk of the releasing work force from agriculture have to be absorbed by service sector, not in industry which has much lower capacity to absorb work force. Even in manufacturing juggernaut like Vietnam, only 25 percent work force is in industrial sector, while bulk of them engaged in service sectors. So there is a limit on how much industrial sector can absorb extra work force no matter how large your industrial sector is.

As Bangladesh already has 21 percent of it's work force in industrial sector, it means, there is a little scope of absorbing farther man power in any significant volume in this sector, what will happen and desirable is productivity gain in industrial sector. Of course many new workers will join industrial sector, but their employment will come more so as a replacement of existing workers, there is no scope of vastly expanding our industrial work forces over our current percentage. As with continuous development, more and more work force will join service sectors and industrial sector will experience productivity gain either by skill improvement of existing workers or by replacement of low skilled workers with highly skilled workers.