Bangladesh and a military coup

[scholseys]

If they dint stage coup when awami was hands in gloves with goons who killed army officers recently then how can they stage a coup against awami in any case

Big Daddy America did not give the green light. Staging a coup is not that hard, all you need is savar's armored division (i think its called 9dv) in your side along with 46th brigade of dhaka. president's regimental guard and ssf become useless when these 2 move.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Well technically no coup is possible. We recently opposed the coup attempt and conspiracy by jamat loyal officers.
And the law is now too strong. If there is no war like situation military take over is impossible.

First off, do you have any specific proof that Jamaat-loyal officers attempted to stage a coup other than a bunch of half-a$$ed media reports?

How is it technically possible for a dozen mid-ranking and retired officers to even stage a coup? Some were even living abroad (retired).

Do you understand the concept of the chain of command in an army? It appears you do not.

See, to actually initiate a coup, there must be commitment from the army's highest-ranking soldiers. That way, troops will receive orders according to their ranks, and be mobilized to stage the coup. Only then can a coup can actually take place.

And most importantly, it must have approval from the United States. Understand that Bangladesh is the largest contributor in UN Peacekeeping Operations. And much of the money it receives is in the form of American Dollars through the UN. So that matters.

Now again explain (with sources), were there any arrests made against high-ranking soldiers of the Bangladesh Army? What happened to Major Zia? (Major is not the highest rank). Did they catch him?

However, there were some tensions in sections of the army. But not so much as staging a coup.

And what do you mean when you say "Law is now too strong"?

 

[PlanetSoldier]

First off, do you have any specific proof that Jamaat-loyal officers attempted to stage a coup other than a bunch of half-a$$ed media reports?

How is it technically possible for a dozen mid-ranking and retired officers to even stage a coup? Some were even living abroad (retired).

Do you understand the concept of the chain of command in an army? It appears you do not.

See, to actually initiate a coup, there must be commitment from the army's highest-ranking soldiers. That way, troops will receive orders according to their ranks, and be mobilized to stage the coup. Only then can a coup can actually take place.

And most importantly, it must have approval from the United States. Understand that Bangladesh is the largest contributor in UN Peacekeeping Operations. And much of the money it receives is in the form of American Dollars through the UN. So that matters.

Now again explain (with sources), were there any arrests made against high-ranking soldiers of the Bangladesh Army? What happened to Major Zia? (Major is not the highest rank). Did they catch him?

However, there were some tensions in sections of the army. But not so much as staging a coup.

And what do you mean when you say "Law is now too strong"?

Milltary coup is generally kept secret. Zia and Ershad tackled many coups but never let them be flashed. Indian media leaked such a scenario last year but govt. officially denied. It is the general way to handle a coup and it proves BAL staged a false drama otherwise they wouldn't have propagated it in home and abroad.

 

[Hammer-fist]

I will write more about this topic later, but for now I will leave people with pictures of certain important personalities and events which will feature in my next post on this thread.

Sohel Taj (the man who may become the next prime minister/foreign minister of Bangladesh).

Former president Ershad, who may/may not, be asked to become president again, or interim prime minister.

Andalib Rahman, who may/may not become the next prime minister or foreign minister of Bangladesh.

Rahman is married to a niece of Sheikh Hasina and also a political ally of Khaleda Zia's BNP.

Andalib Rahman with Khaleda Zia. Rahman's party, the BJP is part of the BNP-led 18 party alliance.

Rahman with his wife, who is the daughter of Hasina's cousin, Sheikh Helal.

Dan Mozena, a friend of Bangladesh and the current American ambassador to Bangladesh.

Abdul Awal Mintoo.

Muhammad Yunus.

 

[A.Rafay]

Kick awami thugs out! Every thing will be alright!

 

[Hammer-fist]

The current now accepted military doctrine across the world is that the armed forces are there for a specific function which is primarily to defend the external borders of a country and in extreme situations to prevent the internal collapse of a state but only after the relevant police forces and other internal security organizations have failed to do so. In this piece of writing related to any possible change of government in Bangladesh facilitated/supported by the military I will first of all start by looking at Turkey and the coup of General Kenan Evran.

1. The 1980 coup in Turkey.

Turkey in the 1970s was in a semi-civil war with leftists and rightists killing each other. Similar to the Iraq conflict a few years ago but underreported in many narratives of the 1970s civil war in Turkey it was also to a degree a Sunni v Shia/Alevi conflict. The right wing consisted of Sunni nationalists and greywolves whilst the left wing consisted of communists many of whom were Alevis.

Turkish society destabilized into near civil war. Leftist and rightist factions carried out several dozen murders daily. By 1980 most Turks were ready for the army to step in, which it did on September 12. By 1983 a new constitution was in place, elections were held, and the army went back to barracks.

Turkish Republic History

Unprecedented political violence had erupted in Turkey in the late 1970s. The overall death toll of the 1970s is estimated at 5,000, with nearly ten assassinations per day.[9] Most were members of left-wing and right-wing political organizations, then engaged in bitter fighting. The ultra-nationalist Grey Wolves, youth organisation of the MHP, claimed they were supporting the security forces.[8]According to the British Searchlight magazine, in 1978 there were 3,319 fascist attacks, in which 831 were killed and 3,121 wounded.[10] In the central trial against the left-wing organizationDevrimci Yol (Revolutionary Path) at Ankara Military Court the defendants listed 5,388 political killings before the military coup. Among the victims were 1,296 right-wingers and 2,109 left-wingers. The others could not clearly be related.[11] The 1978 Bahçelievler Massacre, the 1977 Taksim Square massacre with 35 victims and the 1978 Kahramanmaraş Massacre with over 100 victims are some notable incidents. Martial law was announced following the Kahramanmaraş Massacre in 14 of (then) 67 provinces in December 1978. At the time of the coup martial law had been extended to 20 provinces.

1980 Turkish coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Turkish military finally stepped in after many years of killing and bloodbaths and carried out a coup. Though they are now vilified by many in the Turkish media and in fact the generals are now finally facing trials, they bought stability to the country.

Turkish security forces make dozens of men lie on the floor in the Turkish coup of 1980.

Kenan Evran the head of the Turkish army who carried out Turkey's last outright coup in 1980.

Evren in the centre with other coup generals.

1. The 1970s civil war ended.
2. The economy which was almost about to collapse recovered then flourished.
3. Turkish society received a stable ideology called the "Turk-Islam" synthesis (i.e. the nationalist Turkish right won their civil war with the Alevi left).


2. Bangladeshi caretaker government of 2007-2008

The Bangladeshi military backed government of 2007 failed to be as successful as the 1980 coup of the legendary Kenan Evren who bought 33 years of relative piece to Turkish society including up till now (excluding the Kurdish conflict which has cost 40,000 lives).

The military need to do some of the things the Turkish military did in 1980 which was supported (if not even instigated) by the US, who also need to work in conjunction with the Bangladeshi military.

1. Ban all political parties, the Kemalist Turkish military even banned the party of Ataturk, the CHP itself. So in the Bangladeshi context the Jamat e Islami, Awami League, the BNP and all communist parties should all be banned.
Maybe some of the smaller parties should be allowed including some of the Islamic parties, Jatiya party (no history of hartals or political terrorism) and others.

2. Authorize the establishment or continued operation of a few new parties which the interim government backed by the military regards as not being a threat to Bangladeshi national security, this can include:

i: A party led by Sohel Taj, the former Awami League minister known for his opposition to corruption and principles and the son of Tajuddin one of the national heroes of Bangladesh.

ii: The BJP of Barrister Andaleeb Rahman, a British-educated lawyer with very good connections in the Bangladeshi elite.

iii: A party founded by Abdul Awal Mintoo.

iv: A party founded by Muhammad Yunus.

All other parties except for those approved of the interim government should be banned from operating primarily due to their history of violence and political terrorism.

- Awami League leader Hasina and other Awami League leaders must be put on trial for various crimes including:
- The Pilkhana massacre.
- Abduction and murder of opposition activists.
- Murder of journalist couple in Dhaka, Sagar Sawar and Meherun Runi

- Khaleda Zia must also be put on trial for her role in the murder of 24 people in an Awami rally on August 21st 2004 and be given life imprisonment. All those in the BNP involved in this should be given life imprisonment/capital punishment. The BNP, like the Awami League must be banned as an illegal terrorist organization.

- Other BNP leaders must be tried for their various other crimes.

Injured victims of the BNP governments terrorist attack on an Awami League rally where they attempted to murder Hasina Wajid, and murdered 24 people including the wife of the current Bangladeshi president.

- Jamati leaders must be tried but in new fairer trials which meet requirements international bodies are happy with. Jamat e Islami must be banned and declared a terrorist organization. Jamati terrorists found responsible for the recent destruction of Hindu houses and murder of Hindus must be executed along with other Jamati terrorists.
Bangladesh must work with other Muslim states that have faced terrorism to co-operate. Bangladesh must ask Saudi Arabia to ban all Jamaati activities in Saudi Arabia and Bangladesh must maintain a ban on all works of Maudoodi, the founder of Jamaat who is hated by the Salafee scholars of Saudi Arabia. The Bangladeshi military should even consider asking the Pakistani military and government to reinstate the Pakistani governments ban on Jamat e Islami which former president Ayub Khan implemented.

Ayub Khan on the left with Jinnah. Khan ordered Jamat e Islami (a party which originally opposed the creation of Pakistan) to be banned. Maudoodi the party's founder was also arrested by the Pakistani military for inciting hatred against Qadianis which led to the Lahore riots of 1953 where Jamati thugs targeted Qadianis. Maudoodi was originally sentenced to death by the Pakistani military. In the 1950s Jamatis attacked Qadianis in Pakistan, in 2013 Jamatis murdered Hindus in Bangladesh. The party must be banned permanently and declared an outlawed terrorist organization just as the TTP in Pakistan or Al-Qaeda.


The Turkish military coup of 1980 involved the arrest of maybe 1/2 a million people, the trial of 1/4 a million people, 14,000 had their citizenship removed and 50 executed. I do not support the same for Bangladesh as Bangladesh is no way as violent and unstable as Turkey was in the 1970s. However what the new interim government must do is ban all parties, Awami League, BNP, Jamat, communists apart from those with no track record of violence and terrorism e.g. Jatiya party, the BJP etc.


The authorities must form an interim government led by people suitable e.g. Ershad, Sohel Taj, Abdul Awal Mintoo or Andalib Rahman. For example Ershad can be president, Sohel Taj can be prime minister, Andalib Rahman can be foreign minister and Abdul Awal Mintoo can be Bangladesh's first defence minister.

The new interim government should run the country for 6 months and then followed by a referendum on whether they should continue to rule the country for another 5 years.

If the answer is yes, they should continue to rule and have the democratic mandate to govern the country just as any BNP/Awami regime ever did.

The caretaker government of Fakhruddin Ahmed, though very efficient stalled many important decisions as they believe they did not have a democratic mandate to do so. The Sohel Taj government would through a national referendum democratically endorsing their administration would.

However the BNP, Awami League, Jamat, communists should all remain banned and all politicians involved in violence and terrorism should be banned from politics for life.

If the answer in the referendum is no, then another 3-6 months should be spent until elections excluding the Awami League, BNP, Jamat, communists who should all remain banned, take place.

With a stable 5 year Sohel Taj government Bangladesh can avoid political terrorism, attain double digit economic growth, become the next China i.e. manufacturing hub and become the next Asian tiger economy.

Sohel Taj.

 

[BDforever]

guys watch Independent channel now

 

[Maira La]

The current now accepted military doctrine across the world is that the armed forces are there for a specific function which is primarily to defend the external borders of a country and in extreme situations to prevent the internal collapse of a state but only after the relevant police forces and other internal security organizations have failed to do so. In this piece of writing related to any possible change of government in Bangladesh facilitated/supported by the military I will first of all start by looking at Turkey and the coup of General Kenan Evran.

1. The 1980 coup in Turkey.

Turkey in the 1970s was in a semi-civil war with leftists and rightists killing each other. Similar to the Iraq conflict a few years ago but underreported in many narratives of the 1970s civil war in Turkey it was also to a degree a Sunni v Shia/Alevi conflict. The right wing consisted of Sunni nationalists and greywolves whilst the left wing consisted of communists many of whom were Alevis.



Turkish Republic History



1980 Turkish coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Turkish military finally stepped in after many years of killing and bloodbaths and carried out a coup. Though they are now vilified by many in the Turkish media and in fact the generals are now finally facing trials, they bought stability to the country.

Turkish security forces make dozens of men lie on the floor in the Turkish coup of 1980.

Kenan Evran the head of the Turkish army who carried out Turkey's last outright coup in 1980.

Evren in the centre with other coup generals.

1. The 1970s civil war ended.
2. The economy which was almost about to collapse recovered then flourished.
3. Turkish society received a stable ideology called the "Turk-Islam" synthesis (i.e. the nationalist Turkish right won their civil war with the Alevi left).


2. Bangladeshi caretaker government of 2007-2008

The Bangladeshi military backed government of 2007 failed to be as successful as the 1980 coup of the legendary Kenan Evren who bought 33 years of relative piece to Turkish society including up till now (excluding the Kurdish conflict which has cost 40,000 lives).

The military need to do some of the things the Turkish military did in 1980 which was supported (if not even instigated) by the US, who also need to work in conjunction with the Bangladeshi military.

1. Ban all political parties, the Kemalist Turkish military even banned the party of Ataturk, the CHP itself. So in the Bangladeshi context the Jamat e Islami, Awami League, the BNP and all communist parties should all be banned.
Maybe some of the smaller parties should be allowed including some of the Islamic parties, Jatiya party (no history of hartals or political terrorism) and others.

2. Authorize the establishment or continued operation of a few new parties which the interim government backed by the military regards as not being a threat to Bangladeshi national security, this can include:

i: A party led by Sohel Taj, the former Awami League minister known for his opposition to corruption and principles and the son of Tajuddin one of the national heroes of Bangladesh.

ii: The BJP of Barrister Andaleeb Rahman, a British-educated lawyer with very good connections in the Bangladeshi elite.

iii: A party founded by Abdul Awal Mintoo.

iv: A party founded by Muhammad Yunus.

All other parties except for those approved of the interim government should be banned from operating primarily due to their history of violence and political terrorism.

Though I might not agree with everything in your post, I really like the idea of banning all political parties and let a single party operate, like China's CCP. We need a single democratically-operated party to unite all of Bangladesh under one ideology - Bangladeshism. =))

 

[Moander]

The current now accepted military doctrine across the world is that the armed forces are there for a specific function which is primarily to defend the external borders of a country and in extreme situations to prevent the internal collapse of a state but only after the relevant police forces and other internal security organizations have failed to do so. In this piece of writing related to any possible change of government in Bangladesh facilitated/supported by the military I will first of all start by looking at Turkey and the coup of General Kenan Evran.

1. The 1980 coup in Turkey.

Turkey in the 1970s was in a semi-civil war with leftists and rightists killing each other. Similar to the Iraq conflict a few years ago but underreported in many narratives of the 1970s civil war in Turkey it was also to a degree a Sunni v Shia/Alevi conflict. The right wing consisted of Sunni nationalists and greywolves whilst the left wing consisted of communists many of whom were Alevis.



Turkish Republic History



1980 Turkish coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Turkish military finally stepped in after many years of killing and bloodbaths and carried out a coup. Though they are now vilified by many in the Turkish media and in fact the generals are now finally facing trials, they bought stability to the country.

Turkish security forces make dozens of men lie on the floor in the Turkish coup of 1980.

Kenan Evran the head of the Turkish army who carried out Turkey's last outright coup in 1980.

Evren in the centre with other coup generals.

1. The 1970s civil war ended.
2. The economy which was almost about to collapse recovered then flourished.
3. Turkish society received a stable ideology called the "Turk-Islam" synthesis (i.e. the nationalist Turkish right won their civil war with the Alevi left).


2. Bangladeshi caretaker government of 2007-2008

The Bangladeshi military backed government of 2007 failed to be as successful as the 1980 coup of the legendary Kenan Evren who bought 33 years of relative piece to Turkish society including up till now (excluding the Kurdish conflict which has cost 40,000 lives).

The military need to do some of the things the Turkish military did in 1980 which was supported (if not even instigated) by the US, who also need to work in conjunction with the Bangladeshi military.

1. Ban all political parties, the Kemalist Turkish military even banned the party of Ataturk, the CHP itself. So in the Bangladeshi context the Jamat e Islami, Awami League, the BNP and all communist parties should all be banned.
Maybe some of the smaller parties should be allowed including some of the Islamic parties, Jatiya party (no history of hartals or political terrorism) and others.

2. Authorize the establishment or continued operation of a few new parties which the interim government backed by the military regards as not being a threat to Bangladeshi national security, this can include:

i: A party led by Sohel Taj, the former Awami League minister known for his opposition to corruption and principles and the son of Tajuddin one of the national heroes of Bangladesh.

ii: The BJP of Barrister Andaleeb Rahman, a British-educated lawyer with very good connections in the Bangladeshi elite.

iii: A party founded by Abdul Awal Mintoo.

iv: A party founded by Muhammad Yunus.

All other parties except for those approved of the interim government should be banned from operating primarily due to their history of violence and political terrorism.

- Awami League leader Hasina and other Awami League leaders must be put on trial for various crimes including:
- The Pilkhana massacre.
- Abduction and murder of opposition activists.
- Murder of journalist couple in Dhaka, Sagar Sawar and Meherun Runi

- Khaleda Zia must also be put on trial for her role in the murder of 24 people in an Awami rally on August 21st 2004 and be given life imprisonment. All those in the BNP involved in this should be given life imprisonment/capital punishment. The BNP, like the Awami League must be banned as an illegal terrorist organization.

- Other BNP leaders must be tried for their various other crimes.

Injured victims of the BNP governments terrorist attack on an Awami League rally where they attempted to murder Hasina Wajid, and murdered 24 people including the wife of the current Bangladeshi president.

- Jamati leaders must be tried but in new fairer trials which meet requirements international bodies are happy with. Jamat e Islami must be banned and declared a terrorist organization. Jamati terrorists found responsible for the recent destruction of Hindu houses and murder of Hindus must be executed along with other Jamati terrorists.
Bangladesh must work with other Muslim states that have faced terrorism to co-operate. Bangladesh must ask Saudi Arabia to ban all Jamaati activities in Saudi Arabia and Bangladesh must maintain a ban on all works of Maudoodi, the founder of Jamaat who is hated by the Salafee scholars of Saudi Arabia. The Bangladeshi military should even consider asking the Pakistani military and government to reinstate the Pakistani governments ban on Jamat e Islami which former president Ayub Khan implemented.

Ayub Khan on the left with Jinnah. Khan ordered Jamat e Islami (a party which originally opposed the creation of Pakistan) to be banned. Maudoodi the party's founder was also arrested by the Pakistani military for inciting hatred against Qadianis which led to the Lahore riots of 1953 where Jamati thugs targeted Qadianis. Maudoodi was originally sentenced to death by the Pakistani military. In the 1950s Jamatis attacked Qadianis in Pakistan, in 2013 Jamatis murdered Hindus in Bangladesh. The party must be banned permanently and declared an outlawed terrorist organization just as the TTP in Pakistan or Al-Qaeda.


The Turkish military coup of 1980 involved the arrest of maybe 1/2 a million people, the trial of 1/4 a million people, 14,000 had their citizenship removed and 50 executed. I do not support the same for Bangladesh as Bangladesh is no way as violent and unstable as Turkey was in the 1970s. However what the new interim government must do is ban all parties, Awami League, BNP, Jamat, communists apart from those with no track record of violence and terrorism e.g. Jatiya party, the BJP etc.


The authorities must form an interim government led by people suitable e.g. Ershad, Sohel Taj, Abdul Awal Mintoo or Andalib Rahman. For example Ershad can be president, Sohel Taj can be prime minister, Andalib Rahman can be foreign minister and Abdul Awal Mintoo can be Bangladesh's first defence minister.

The new interim government should run the country for 6 months and then followed by a referendum on whether they should continue to rule the country for another 5 years.

If the answer is yes, they should continue to rule and have the democratic mandate to govern the country just as any BNP/Awami regime ever did.

The caretaker government of Fakhruddin Ahmed, though very efficient stalled many important decisions as they believe they did not have a democratic mandate to do so. The Sohel Taj government would through a national referendum democratically endorsing their administration would.

However the BNP, Awami League, Jamat, communists should all remain banned and all politicians involved in violence and terrorism should be banned from politics for life.

If the answer in the referendum is no, then another 3-6 months should be spent until elections excluding the Awami League, BNP, Jamat, communists who should all remain banned, take place.

With a stable 5 year Sohel Taj government Bangladesh can avoid political terrorism, attain double digit economic growth, become the next China i.e. manufacturing hub and become the next Asian tiger economy.

Sohel Taj.

Good to see you back hammer. But i couldn't agree with your post. I think democracy is better for any country. Bangladesh started to develop after 1990s when democratic government took power. Despite of corruption, Bangladesh really developed under BNP & Awami. Have you already forgotten the mess which was created by the last military backed caretaker government?

 

[ebr77]

Big Daddy America did not give the green light. Staging a coup is not that hard, all you need is savar's armored division (i think its called 9dv) in your side along with 46th brigade of dhaka. president's regimental guard and ssf become useless when these 2 move.

usually whoever is appointed as Savar's GOC , is always very powerful man. Members of SSF are usually from army. If a ranked officer orders them to shoot, I don't think they will resist much.

 

[Md Akmal]

@ Who is this Hammer-fist ? He is a man who jumps too much without understanding the whole damm thing !!! Now listen carfully from your dad which might help you a lot. For your information for a considerable period I was in Turkey. We just cannot compare our country with the system of Turkey. Turkey is the only Islamic country in OIC which have a secular constitution. It is such a Secular that they donnot allow to offer a Jumma prayer means if you are Govt servent they donnot allow you or will not give you the time. And the most interesting think is that Army/Armed Forces has been given the responsibility to guarantee this secularism. So, when the Army finds that their country is moving towards extreme Islamism the Army enterferes. So, for the Turkish army it is easy to step in once the situation demands.

@ It seems that for Hammer-fist it is very easy that military to step in whenever they feels neccessity. Hammer-fist for how many military coups you have studied ? OK, for argument seek I may consider that you copied and all the military coups from the internet but my dear friend mere reading the history of Military coups will not enlarge your fertile brain half Bangla and half America unless if you are not clear about the basic things.

@ Remember one thing, Martial Law is no Law unless it is being duly ratified in an elected parliament. Again Martial Law is superior to Constitutional Law as because it is a Law by power/force. Whatever Chief Martial Law Administrator utters from his mouth is a Law provided it is written then and there. The very first step of military from the barrack is unlawful. So the day Martial Law is imposed it is unlawful. So to make it lawful each and every military leader has to form a political party and its members are to be elected by the people in a fair competition. Then this newly parliament will enact a law that for the betterment of the country and people this Martial Law was promulgated. So Ayub formed a political party known as Convention Muslim Leaque, Zia formed Jagodal, Nationalist Front and finally BNP. Ershad formed Jatia Party and so on. Simarly, General Park of South Korea, General Sekarnu and Soharto of Indonesia, Colonel Nasser of Egypt, General Ne yun of Burma and more other atleast 80/90 countries of the World promulgated ML and formed the political party. So, this is one way of legalizing the illegal activities of military leader. Another form is free election without political party and then force them to legalize it. Another form is the way your friend General Moin made it with under hand great Awami Leaque. I think, now you are understanding a little bit. If you have any more legal querry ask MBI Munshi who is a Barrister here hope he will help you. One request donnot jump too much. By the way who told you that it is the Jamaat who are killing and burning the houses of minorities !!!!!!! Again how dare are you banning Jamaat ????? Just bann it and "Dekh tamasha".

@ By the way, why you are bringing in all these Dandy type politician in the political arena of Bangladesh. All your these ideas what we call in political term as " Uthopian Ideas". By the way while making comment about the politics of Bangladesh you have to all ways consider about the presence of Mighty India. By the way, have you ever seen a railway line ? So the relationship between AL and BNP is like railway line which never meet together ==================

 

[flame_retardant]

On the subject of military coups/dictatorships: has anyone read about the "miracle on Han river"? It's about South Korea's development starting in 1961 when President Park Chung-hee essentially turned Korea into a dictatorship. He violated human rights, and Korea was highly censored. But between 1961 to 1979, he managed to completely turn around Korea's economic prospects. Korea was totally devastated in 1961 after the Korean War. By 1988, it was hosting Olympic Games.

People get really angry about military coups in the short run, but its not always a bad thing.

 

[saleen_s7]

Dr yunus, andlib, sohel taj etc has no future in Bangladeshi politics. At least, not as the prime minister perhaps minister but nothing more, nothing less. Some digital aged teens have deluded themselves into thinking that this people might have start a new political careers. They don't take the reality into account, which is, they don't have the political backbone which has been developed from the inception of Bangladesh. The only way they can perhaps come is thru a miltary backing which I doubt any of them has. In reality, all they do is scream corruption at the top of their lungs (which are unsubstantiated) which holds no value in the Bangladesh political arena. Remember Badudoza Chowdhury and his political party? All of the candidates hammerfist mentioned has no chance in the forseeable future. (next election)
The only way a third political force can come in is if top leaders of the two major political parties get together and form a new party which the caretaker govt tried to do and failed miserably. Believe it or not, the only likely scenerio in the next election is either BNP or AL, or a miltary govt (which is again national suicide). anyways, just my opinion

 

[kalu_miah]

On the subject of military coups/dictatorships: has anyone read about the "miracle on Han river"? It's about South Korea's development starting in 1961 when President Park Chung-hee essentially turned Korea into a dictatorship. He violated human rights, and Korea was highly censored. But between 1961 to 1979, he managed to completely turn around Korea's economic prospects. Korea was totally devastated in 1961 after the Korean War. By 1988, it was hosting Olympic Games.

People get really angry about military coups in the short run, but its not always a bad thing.

Koreans and Bangladeshi's are very different people. Military have gone back to barracks, they are not going to come back to save us. Our best bet is a better form of democracy, not the fascist dynastic pseudo democracy we have now, where the country is crawling with Indian agents in a virtual occupation of the country to make it a vassal state of the bigger neighbor.

So our best option is to keep all Indian agents out of power, which automatically leaves only BNP led alliance as the only option, as the lesser evil. And then we need a reform in this alliance to make it more democratic internally and thorough cleansing of this alliance to kick out all Indian agents.

 

[flame_retardant]

Koreans and Bangladeshi's are very different people.

I agree. Koreans & Bangladeshis like you are very different. For one thing: Koreans would never insinuate that other Koreans aren't capable of success.

But most importantly: Koreans are VERY nationalistic. When Korea was going through a major crisis in 1999, Koreans donated >$1.8BILLION dollars in personal jewelry to the govt to help with the debt problem.

I think a really good way to make Bangladeshi people more nationalistic & take more pride in Bangladesh is to require mandatory military service for all men. Korea & Israel do this - they are 2 of the most nationalistic countries in the world.

President Park Chung-hee said: There can't be democracy without economic success.

I agree. Otherwise, it's too difficult to keep a good handle on things like corruption and corruption sucks wealth out of the country & it's just a vicious cycle.

Military have gone back to barracks, they are not going to come back to save us. Our best bet is a better form of democracy, not the fascist dynastic pseudo democracy we have now, where the country is crawling with Indian agents in a virtual occupation of the country to make it a vassal state of the bigger neighbor.

So our best option is to keep all Indian agents out of power, which automatically leaves only BNP led alliance as the only option, as the lesser evil. And then we need a reform in this alliance to make it more democratic internally and thorough cleansing of this alliance to kick out all Indian agents.

The rest of this crap is just your drivel talking about whatever political party you support. Whatever.