BANGLADESH AIR FORCE'S F-7:POOR MAN'S F-16

[ahmeddsid]

What do you accept Bangladesh army to use. It is a poor country and F7's are good choice for them.

Pakistan has been around far longer than Bangladesh, Why arent you guys using F15s and F16s and F18s?? Why are you still operating the F7s?? Why dont your AirForce have more than 100 F16s???? Why is is that your Airforce is still not fully BVR capable???

I didnt ask these questions to argue, but to just point out that Bangladesh is just starting out, and in Due course they will operate Superior ACs.

 

[leonblack08]

Which is better Pakistani F-7PG or Bangladeshi F-7BG?

F-7PG/BG Fishbed



A PAF pilot was posing in front of F-7PG #827. Based on the F-7MG electronic technology demonstrator, it features various upgrades to meet PAF's requirements, including a one-piece windshield, Italian Grifo-7PG PD radar (search 55km, track 37km, single target track), new color CRT displays (EFIS), HUD, HOTAS control, new air data computer, TACAN, PL-9C IR-guided AAM, WP-13F(B) turbojet (13,200lb w/ afterburning) plus two 30mm cannons (compared to one on J-7E/G). Its maximum climb rate is 38,300ft/min (195m/s), combat radius is 850km (hi-hi-hi air-superiority role) and maximum load is 1,800kg. The new double-delta wing suggests the same design on J-7E has proven successful. However, since its basic design of Mig-21F has been more than 40 years old, this approach did not fundamentally change the overall performance. Pakistan ordered 57 F-7PGs in early 2000. These F-7PGs have replaced J-6/Mig-19 and will counter India's Mig-21bis/Bison fleet. 48 were delivered to Pakistan by the end of 2002. However, F-7PG might be fitted with the indigenous SY-80 radar (search 30km, track 26km) replacing the Grifo-7PG radar. Besides Pakistani AF, Namibian AF ordered 12 F-7NMs in August 2005. All were delivered in 2006. Bangladesh AF also ordered 12 F-7BGs in 2005. All were delivered 2006. In addition, Nigerian AF ordered 12 F-7NIs in a $251m deal and the first batch is expected to be delivered in 2009. Sri Lanka AF also received around 6 F-7GS in late 2007/early 2008.


List of F-7MG Overseas Customers

Country Designation Number Trainer Version Number
Pakistan F-7PG 57 FT-7PG 6
Bangladesh F-7BG 12 FT-7BG 4
Namibia F-7NM 12 FT-7NG 2
Nigeria F-7NI 12 FT-7NI 3
Sri Lanka F-7GS 6 ? ?
North Korea F-7K ? ? ?

 

[leonblack08]

The link:Chinese Military Aviation

I am no military expert so can't say which F-7 is better,PG or BG??or both are same.May be the Thinktanks can comment on this.

 

[leonblack08]

Here are some more pics.The grey coloured F-7 may be F-7MB,not sure.

 

[ahmeddsid]

The F7 cannot counter the Mig 21 Bison which India Operates, The Bison is in a whole new league, with BVR and other enhancements Courtesy Israel and others.

 

[leonblack08]

The F7 cannot counter the Mig 21 Bison which India Operates, The Bison is in a whole new league, with BVR and other enhancements Courtesy Israel and others.

You can't say that because F-7 BG is also BVR capable.Moreover these are brand new just out of the factory in 2005.Indian Bisons have been on service for a long time.And at the end of the day it all depends on the skill of the fighters.So we can't say which AC is better than the other.

 

[ahmeddsid]

You can't say that because F-7 BG is also BVR capable.Moreover these are brand new just out of the factory in 2005.Indian Bisons have been on service for a long time.And at the end of the day it all depends on the skill of the fighters.So we can't say which AC is better than the other.

Yes the Bangladeshi F7s are new, I was talking about Pakistans. Well an AC when it goes upgrades, it also goes under life enhancement. Its not like if it comes out of the Factory then its good and otherwise bad. Well Pakistan has been operating F16s for a long time, But why is their F16 still formidable?? Its simple, its undergone change to keep it fit. The Bison is also better than the Bangladeshi F7s because of the additional enhancements done on it I believe.

 

[Imran Khan]

heey guys stick on topic please BANGLADESH AIR FORCE'S F-7BG POOR MAN'S F-16 were is pakistan in this thread ???.you guys from our nighbers every thing move to pakistan real troling.whats our f-7pg we know well.and if sme one have more intreast open a simple thread IAF MIG-21 vs PAF F7PG. Dont move every topic to pakistan.we already 100 times dicus abut migs and f-7pgs if you have some serch time go see and revive that thread.

 

[Imran Khan]

and this is f-6 wich we sold to BD not f-7.see until now bad red paint job on our paf logo ceter of bird.its PAF code 7104 f-6

 

[leonblack08]

and this is f-6 wich we sold to BD not f-7.see until now bad red paint job on our paf ligo ceter of bird.its PAF code 7104 f-6

Thanx Bro.
I wasn't sure about which bird it is but knew it certainly was not F-7BG.This pic also looks quite old.You are right about the paint job.

 

[MAX786]

You can't say that because F-7 BG is also BVR capable.Moreover these are brand new just out of the factory in 2005.Indian Bisons have been on service for a long time.And at the end of the day it all depends on the skill of the fighters.So we can't say which AC is better than the other.

There is a vast difference between Skill of the fighter pilot and all other gizmos attached to a fighter jets. Mig-21 Bisons are mainstay of IAF and upgraded with latest avionics and BVR as well as radar. Just because F-7BG are brand new, it doesn't make them more potent then Mig-21 Bisons. I accept that F-7s are BVR capable, but it would be much helpful if you can provide information about BD airforce possess any BVR missiles or not.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Over all F-7 is a superior Fighter than the Indian MIG 21 aerodynamically I can say a more refined agile design..better airframe...with better avionics F-7 can easily take on MIG-21 without any doubt...After all MIG-21 is called flying coffin. Bison is called for its upgrades other wise its the same MIG-21 with rest of the lot that is flying coffins... nice radars out there in the market!!.

 

[leonblack08]

 

[TopCat]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are these fighters any good?????
I think, BAF only wasting money buying those junks..
They should go for some alternatives...

 

[leonblack08]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are these fighters any good?????
I think, BAF only wasting money buying those junks..
They should go for some alternatives...

They are good for defensive missions.Their NATO codename is AIRGUARD.
They are the primary interceptor.

I heard from Raquib that Sheikh Hasina said she would buy more migs.Not sure its true.