Bangladesh Air Force

[syed1]

41 Squadron, BAF

 

[muhammadali233]

Russian and Chinese jets cost of maintenance is lower than American counterparts. For ex
A f-16 can take upto 26k $ per hour of flight maintenance. Mig 29 takes around 5500$.
I don't think jf-17 from mig is an upgrade. More downgrade tbh. However j-10 is a good deal and Bangladesh most probably will get those along with Russian jets... given we bought k-8 and yak-130 for training.

JF-17 a downgrade from BDAF mig-29?really?lol.
The F-7BGI is better than mig-29SE/SMT.
JF-17BLK-2 is better than anything BDAF currently fields,BLK-3 would be an overkill.

 

[mb444]

JF-17 a downgrade from BDAF mig-29?really?lol.
The F-7BGI is better than mig-29SE/SMT.
JF-17BLK-2 is better than anything BDAF currently fields,BLK-3 would be an overkill.

But are your blk 2 planes for sale? Is block 3 actually in production?

BAF will buy Chinese.... I think the current BAL government won't entertain JF17 and there is no appetite for it in BAF having been evaluated. It's the J10 that BAF ideally wants..... Second and last option is russian jets.

 

[syed1]

31 Squadron "Beyond the call of duty," BAF

 

[Kandari-Hushiyaar]

What is this? Truck version of Fm90?

 

[Avicenna]

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Beautiful pics! However unguided rockets fired from a Mig-29 doing air to ground isnt what i hope for.

 

[mb444]

But are your blk 2 planes for sale? Is block 3 actually in production?

Beautiful pics! However unguided rockets fired from a Mig-29 doing air to ground isnt what i hope for.

Beautiful pics! However unguided rockets fired from a Mig-29 doing air to ground isnt what i hope for.

If our new F7s are fitted with sd-10 which I read were near BVR capable missiles and these migs have been upgraded the SMT level surely they are also BVR capable. Can anyone with more technical knowledge regarding such thing comment.

These pics maybe just for show.... does not mean they lack the capacity.

 

[Avicenna]

I have seen Pics with BAF mig-29 carrying the aa-10. In fact one of those pics is my avatar. I am assuming they are real and not photoshopped. Moving forward I think it is prudent for BAF to embrace new capabilities and master them. in strictly air to air terms the most modern missiles BAF has are the archer and Alamo. Maybe get a platform that can mount sd-10? Or the newer Chinese missiles. Basically I know cash is short but for the future I hope capability, modern tactics and training are embraced. How about a stand off air to ground weapon? Or PGM capability? Things of that nature to give us an edge over Myanmar and some capability against India.

 

[Arthur]

What is this? Truck version of Fm90?

Reloading Vehicles.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Oh I remember back when Bangladesh ordered 16 and then cancelled orders of 8 of them after Khaleda came to power... Russia increased the spare parts and maintenance cost. It was affordable else we wouldn't be requesting US for f-16 prior to mig purchase.
Khaleda just had to steal money nothing more nothing less. Wouldn't say hasina haven't done the same.
My guess is riyaj either quit Air Force when we decided to get mig 29 after f-16 request was rejected by USA or that he might have had done some kind of argument with his seniors about something and got dismissed? Who knows. There are many pictures of him training in f-16 in turkey.

Riyaj currently is a Bangladeshi actor making some meh to weird films for decades now.

I don't care about their cat-fights really. I'm just glad that it is gradually coming to an end.

As far as rejection of F-16's go, their perception is that we are a poor country and have no military threats whatsoever (which isn't entirely wrong at the time BTW). I'd say was a blessing in disguise. Just imagine the strings attached to them.

Watching Bangladeshi films makes me question if I am a Bangladeshi. Or is it the movie itself? I mean...WTF!?

I consider myself a nationalist and anti-BAL.... But I would strongly state that does not somehow makes me pro-BNP.

Nationalist first.....support of political party is situational on past record and policy position.

Party affiliation has nothing to do with being a nationalist.

Mmm...odd...I don't consider myself a nationalist. My views are very left for that matter. But that doesn't make me an AL'er, does it?

We all have our differences.

Well, I have put in my observation about this whole fiasco before.

1. The planes were bought rather cheap, that's for sure.

2.But the operational & maintainance cost was away above the level of BAF budget.

3. Our economy was weak. No where near the boom we are seeing now. We were almost verge of defaulting on our import bills. The reserve was very low, just a mere $ 1 billion. Gov. had to stop paying import bills, cuz if foreign reserve goes below $ 1 billion your credit rating will be negative & no one will give you easy, soft loans for infrastructure or any other purposes.

4. In that regard it wasn't a practical decision to keep the planes on air & keep carrying maintainance bills.

5. And to my true knowledge BAF high command wasn't very pleased with the situation either. They didn't liked how only eight aircraft was eating up the budget of the whole fleet. So they grounded the fighters till proper funds can be managed & allocated.

Khaleda couldn't have done anything in that regard.

The plan of selling was just a stupid idea from the useless cronies of Khaleda, who wanted some piece from the cake but of course military top bruss taught them their place.

6. And Seikh Hasina was indeed found liable, proved in the court that she indeed had made a wrong decision & caused the state economic & monetary losses through this deal. And that was during the Military supported Care Taker government.

So you people can really easy down from you political bashing band wagon. It seems kids nowadays take it as fashion trend, bashing people for useless reasons, without knowing or understanding the facts & context of things.

True that about the economy. Our economy is way better now in that regard.

Since 2014, deferred import bills had become very, very popular. Thanks to Bangladesh Bank for allowing financial institutions and big corporations (like Beximco) to get foreign loans. Bangladesh Bank had taken steps so that our FX reserves do not face too much pressure for deferred import bills. As per circular, we can now pay deferred bills >= $1,000,000 or 360 days tenor on a quarterly basis. And institutions abroad are willing to do transactions and give loans to us. And there are no signs of this trend slowing down! The trend is good. It is indeed a big leap since the 90's.

Bangladesh Bank also give many incentives and tax breaks to our exporters as well. Now this would give rise to even more deferred bills in the form of back-to-back L/C's (a sort of supply chain finance). And that makes our credit look good. The only question is if our banks can carry out that level of service? They have to be capable of handling that pressure, and that comes with good corporate governance. Rising NPL's is a concern here, particularly among the 4th gen banks. It is very unlikely they can offer that level of service.

Now if the outlook is good, why not opt for something superior and something we can control? If I can build myself an autonomous fighter jet that is superior to any human piloted one out there in large numbers, I'll do it. Sounds like a stretch? Crazy even? Maybe that's because I don't trust any power that happen to be our suppliers. I know I'd bitch-slap each and every one of em if I can...

 

[~Phoenix~]

I have seen Pics with BAF mig-29 carrying the aa-10. In fact one of those pics is my avatar. I am assuming they are real and not photoshopped. Moving forward I think it is prudent for BAF to embrace new capabilities and master them. in strictly air to air terms the most modern missiles BAF has are the archer and Alamo. Maybe get a platform that can mount sd-10? Or the newer Chinese missiles. Basically I know cash is short but for the future I hope capability, modern tactics and training are embraced. How about a stand off air to ground weapon? Or PGM capability? Things of that nature to give us an edge over Myanmar and some capability against India.

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I have seen a BAF MiG-29 armed with the same teeth - 2 R-27s,2 R-73s and 2 R-60s in live television. However,I believe have a very low number of missiles for MiG-29s ( Never seen more than 3 MiG-29s armed at the same time )

 

[Avicenna]

Such a beautiful pic!

 

[M_Saint]

But are your blk 2 planes for sale? Is block 3 actually in production?

BAF will buy Chinese.... I think the current BAL government won't entertain JF17 and there is no appetite for it in BAF having been evaluated. It's the J10 that BAF ideally wants..... Second and last option is russian jets.

Yes they are and also block 111 are in production.

U'RE right that BAL wouldn't buy JF-17 but FC-1 AKA same as JF-17 is available from Chinese. IMO, even J-10 in large number is an overkill for BD due to its small air space but customized to supplement FC-1 is the way to go.

If our new F7s are fitted with sd-10 which I read were near BVR capable missiles and these migs have been upgraded the SMT level surely they are also BVR capable. Can anyone with more technical knowledge regarding such thing comment.

These pics maybe just for show.... does not mean they lack the capacity.

Even though F-7 BG & BGIs are the latest of the series, still lack true capability of firing SD-10 as a BVR missile but it could be housed by adding new pylon under the belly. Having good/nearly BVR capable radars in F-7s would help firing it far and that's enough for BD's defensive posturing IMO. BRO, BAF's MIGs aren't SMTs but are updated UPGs. Those were bought as 2nd hands and until former Finance minister released over $100 millions, Ruskies refuse to upgrade'em to make flyable.

Lately 4 of it were in UKRAINE for upgrade and spare parts issue was nightmares a few years ago. Indians were the sole beneficiary of that sale that got a good deal for MIG-29Ks from Ruskies.There were graft case against Hasina about it and Frigate's purchase and she would have been convicted unless came to power by Indian's aid.

 

[Zabaniyah]

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Those are rare photos.

Thanks for sharing them...

 

[Species]

Those are rare photos.

Thanks for sharing them...

Screenshots from the TVC.