Bangladesh Air Force

[kalu_miah]

The difference in speed is 280 mph. L-15 = 924 mph top speed, whereas yak-130 is 644 mph. I can see right away that this would be more agile as an attack fighter:
Venezuela will buy 24 Chinese L-15 and more K-8
L-15 is formally commissioned in PLAAF

The purpose of a supersonic trainer is different than subsonic trainer, the supersonic trainer can be used for supersonic flight training and also it is better as an attack fighter due to higher speed and agility.
A.S.Yakovlev Design Bureau –:– company –:– publications –:– articles
"According to Oleg Demchenko, the Yakovlev Design Bureau, in the last three years, under the order of China's AV1C-2 (Aviation Industry of China/Second Group), the company has provided consulting services and prepared a concept specification for the L-15 trainer, the development of which is carried out in China. This aircraft will replace the aging K-8 and will be able to compete on China's trainer market against the FTC-2000 aircraft being developed by AV1C-1.

As per O.Demchenko, the Russian company did not participate in designing and building the full-scale mockup of the L-15 aircraft, which is expected to make a demonstration flight at China Air Show-2004 in Zhuhai. The company only assisted in evaluating the concept of the supersonic operational trainer and did associated research and development work under that project.

«We are satisfied with cooperation with the Chinese party under the L-15 project and can't but note the very high professional skills of the Chinese aviation experts. It is not inconceivable that AVIC-2 will be able to continue to cooperate with us under the supersonic trainer program, in the implementation of which the Chinese experts also utilize our experience in building a subsonic Yak-130 aircraft,» - said Oleg Demchenko.

The world's current system of training combat pilots is based on using trainers of three classes, i.e. those for initial, basic and advanced training.

Placing emphasis on re-equipping its National Air Force with modern multi-role fighters, China needs now initial and advanced training aircraft.

By contrast to the concept of the subsonic advanced training aircraft adopted by the Russian Air Force, China opted for building a supersonic trainer of this type. "About 90% of combat pilot's total basic training procedure is spent on flying subsonic trainers that are cheaper to operate than supersonic types. The switch from subsonic trainers to supersonic operational aircraft in the course of advanced flight training takes up only 10% of the required training time" noted Oleg Demchenko.

Experts believe that demand for advanced trainers on China's defense market can be quite high. At the same time, they don't think that in the near term this will exceed 200 supersonic machines of L-15 type."

L-15, Yak-130 Jet Trainers Compete for Asian Buyers | Aviation International News
December 7, 2012, 9:18 AM
"Bangladesh and Vietnam are close to buying the Yakovlev Yak-130 advanced jet trainer, according to Russia’s weapons exporter, Rosoboronexport, but in other Asian countries the aircraft faces growing competition from China in the form of the Hongdu L-15. “There are no sales prospects for our aircraft in China, because the local engineers have developed their own design. Outwardly, the L-15 bears a distinct resemblance to the Yak-130,” said Sergei Kornev, head of the Rosoboronexport department for aviation.

Kornev said that Rosoboronexport still hopes to sell the Yak-130 to a number of Asian customers since it has “certain advantages over the Chinese product.” The L-15 is designed for supersonic speed, which makes it more difficult to operate and maintain. It needs a set of dedicated equipment at an operational airfield. The Yak-130 is subsonic and is capable of autonomous operations from temporary in-theater airfields, Kornev noted.

Meanwhile, at the recent Airshow China in Zhuhai, China Aero-Technology Export-Import (Catic) signed for 12 L-15s that will be delivered to an unspecified foreign customer."

Hongdu L-15 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"

People's Republic of China

• People's Liberation Army Air Force (First batch of L-15 is commissioned in a training center of PLAAF in EAST of China,and the quantity is not sure at the moment from public information)

In November 2012, an order for twelve L-15s by an unknown customer was announced. They are due to be delivered in 2013.[6] This batch of L-15 is begun to be handed over to the customer on June 29, 2013.[7]

Zambia

• Zambian Air Force - At least 6 was ordered by Zambian in Zhuhhai Air Show, 2012.

Venezuela

• Venezuela Air Force - Venezuela Defence Minister Carmen Meléndez Rivas revealed in April 2014, ordering 24 L-15. [8][9]"

BAF can consider buying a small number of L-15, engines are same as yak-130, so maintenance would be very easy.

JF-17 block 1 is also fairly cheap with starting price at $15 million, which is same price as yak-130 and L-15. So this should be considered as well, because of its low cost and this one is a real fighter with 3600 kg pay load (yak-130 has 3000 kg, L-15 has 2000 kg payload and K-8 has 1000 kg) and top speed of 1370 mph.

So for BAF:
- K-8 is the cheapest to operate single engine basic jet trainer, top speed 500 mph, payload 1000 kg
- then we have yak-130 as twin engine advanced subsonic trainers, top speed 644 mph, payload 3000 kg
- now we should get some L-15 as twin engine advanced supersonic (924 mph) trainers, top speed 924 mph, payload 2000 kg
- and finally we should also get some JF-17 block-1 for low end fighter aircraft, also good for training at very high speed, top speed 1370 mph, payload 3600 kg

Mig 29's top speed is around 1500 mph, Mig 35 same top speed and J-10 is mach 2.2 or around 1450 mph.
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[BDforever]

The difference in speed is 280 mph. L-15 = 924 mph top speed, whereas yak-130 is 644 mph. I can see right away that this would be more agile as an attack fighter:
Venezuela will buy 24 Chinese L-15 and more K-8
L-15 is formally commissioned in PLAAF

The purpose of a supersonic trainer is different than subsonic trainer, the supersonic trainer can be used for supersonic flight training and also it is better as an attack fighter due to higher speed and agility.
A.S.Yakovlev Design Bureau –:– company –:– publications –:– articles
"According to Oleg Demchenko, the Yakovlev Design Bureau, in the last three years, under the order of China's AV1C-2 (Aviation Industry of China/Second Group), the company has provided consulting services and prepared a concept specification for the L-15 trainer, the development of which is carried out in China. This aircraft will replace the aging K-8 and will be able to compete on China's trainer market against the FTC-2000 aircraft being developed by AV1C-1.

As per O.Demchenko, the Russian company did not participate in designing and building the full-scale mockup of the L-15 aircraft, which is expected to make a demonstration flight at China Air Show-2004 in Zhuhai. The company only assisted in evaluating the concept of the supersonic operational trainer and did associated research and development work under that project.

«We are satisfied with cooperation with the Chinese party under the L-15 project and can't but note the very high professional skills of the Chinese aviation experts. It is not inconceivable that AVIC-2 will be able to continue to cooperate with us under the supersonic trainer program, in the implementation of which the Chinese experts also utilize our experience in building a subsonic Yak-130 aircraft,» - said Oleg Demchenko.

The world's current system of training combat pilots is based on using trainers of three classes, i.e. those for initial, basic and advanced training.

Placing emphasis on re-equipping its National Air Force with modern multi-role fighters, China needs now initial and advanced training aircraft.

By contrast to the concept of the subsonic advanced training aircraft adopted by the Russian Air Force, China opted for building a supersonic trainer of this type. "About 90% of combat pilot's total basic training procedure is spent on flying subsonic trainers that are cheaper to operate than supersonic types. The switch from subsonic trainers to supersonic operational aircraft in the course of advanced flight training takes up only 10% of the required training time" noted Oleg Demchenko.

Experts believe that demand for advanced trainers on China's defense market can be quite high. At the same time, they don't think that in the near term this will exceed 200 supersonic machines of L-15 type."

L-15, Yak-130 Jet Trainers Compete for Asian Buyers | Aviation International News
December 7, 2012, 9:18 AM
"Bangladesh and Vietnam are close to buying the Yakovlev Yak-130 advanced jet trainer, according to Russia’s weapons exporter, Rosoboronexport, but in other Asian countries the aircraft faces growing competition from China in the form of the Hongdu L-15. “There are no sales prospects for our aircraft in China, because the local engineers have developed their own design. Outwardly, the L-15 bears a distinct resemblance to the Yak-130,” said Sergei Kornev, head of the Rosoboronexport department for aviation.

Kornev said that Rosoboronexport still hopes to sell the Yak-130 to a number of Asian customers since it has “certain advantages over the Chinese product.” The L-15 is designed for supersonic speed, which makes it more difficult to operate and maintain. It needs a set of dedicated equipment at an operational airfield. The Yak-130 is subsonic and is capable of autonomous operations from temporary in-theater airfields, Kornev noted.

Meanwhile, at the recent Airshow China in Zhuhai, China Aero-Technology Export-Import (Catic) signed for 12 L-15s that will be delivered to an unspecified foreign customer."

Hongdu L-15 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"View attachment 103064 People's Republic of China

• People's Liberation Army Air Force (First batch of L-15 is commissioned in a training center of PLAAF in EAST of China,and the quantity is not sure at the moment from public information)

In November 2012, an order for twelve L-15s by an unknown customer was announced. They are due to be delivered in 2013.[6] This batch of L-15 is begun to be handed over to the customer on June 29, 2013.[7]
View attachment 103065 Zambia

• Zambian Air Force - At least 6 was ordered by Zambian in Zhuhhai Air Show, 2012.

View attachment 103066 Venezuela

• Venezuela Air Force - Venezuela Defence Minister Carmen Meléndez Rivas revealed in April 2014, ordering 24 L-15. [8][9]"

BAF can consider buying a small number of L-15, engines are same as yak-130, so maintenance would be very easy.

JF-17 block 1 is also fairly cheap with starting price at $15 million, which is same price as yak-130 and L-15. So this should be considered as well, because of its low cost and this one is a real fighter with 3600 kg pay load (yak-130 has 3000 kg, L-15 has 2000 kg payload and K-8 has 1000 kg) and top speed of 1370 mph.

So for BAF:
- K-8 is the cheapest to operate single engine basic jet trainer, top speed 500 mph, payload 1000 kg
- then we have yak-130 as twin engine advanced subsonic trainers, top speed 644 mph, payload 3000 kg
- now we should get some L-15 as twin engine advanced supersonic (924 mph) trainers, top speed 924 mph, payload 2000 kg
- and finally we should also get some JF-17 block-1 for low end fighter aircraft, also good for training at very high speed, top speed 1370 mph, payload 3600 kg

Mig 29's top speed is around 1500 mph, Mig 35 same top speed and J-10 is mach 2.2 or around 1450 mph.
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i posted this video few days ago

also check this

no need to go for JF-17, we have mig 35 option.

 

[kalu_miah]

i posted this video few days ago

also check this

no need to go for JF-17, we have mig 35 option.

Yak-130 speed is limitation for high speed supersonic training, L-15 can do that job. And with same engine as Yak-130, it will be very easy to maintain along with other Chinese origin fighter F-7BGI.

JF-17 block 1 is same price as Yak-130 and L-15, $15 million a piece. It can be a good entry level fighter for BAF and we will have the option to upgrade to block 2 when the upgrade becomes cheap after introduction of block 3. At 20-25 million, block 2 could be our main entry level fighter, which we could have in large numbers.

Mig 35 is derived and improved version of Mig 29, and it will be a good choice for Bangladesh because we already have experience with Mig 29. But considering poor after sales service from Russia, I would prefer BAF to go for J-10B or FC-20. Both Mig 35 and FC-20 are in $35-40 million range.

Since we currently have no idea which one will be chosen as our main air superiority fighter, Mig 35 or J-10B/FC-20, this is another reason to get some L-15 trainer for training with Chinese avionics and armament systems.

 

[Genesis]

@kalu_miah

Recently I seen the forums, some are saying China is trying to induct 1000+ L-15s to revolutionize training methods, so stay tuned.

Could be a rumor, could be made up, could be anything, but it does sort of make sense.

 

[BDforever]

Yak-130 speed is limitation for high speed supersonic training, L-15 can do that job. And with same engine as Yak-130, it will be very easy to maintain along with other Chinese origin fighter F-7BGI.

JF-17 block 1 is same price as Yak-130 and L-15, $15 million a piece. It can be a good entry level fighter for BAF and we will have the option to upgrade to block 2 when the upgrade becomes cheap after introduction of block 3. At 20-25 million, block 2 could be our main entry level fighter, which we could have in large numbers.

Mig 35 is derived and improved version of Mig 29, and it will be a good choice for Bangladesh because we already have experience with Mig 29. But considering poor after sales service from Russia, I would prefer BAF to go for J-10B or FC-20. Both Mig 35 and FC-20 are in $35-40 million range.

Since we currently have no idea which one will be chosen as our main air superiority fighter, Mig 35 or J-10B/FC-20, this is another reason to get some L-15 trainer for training with Chinese avionics and armament systems.

1. it is not just speed, yak-130 is more versatile than L-15. you must watch the first video.
hard points , max angle of attack better than L-15, payload is high.
2. JF-17 block 1 price will be about $20 million, the $15million price tag is for Pakistan and the price is old.
3. Mig 35 price is $30 million.

 

[kalu_miah]

1. it is not just speed, yak-130 is more versatile than L-15. you must watch the first video.
hard points , max angle of attack better than L-15, payload is high.
2. JF-17 block 1 price will be about $20 million, the $15million price tag is for Pakistan and the price is old.
3. Mig 35 price is $30 million.

1. I am no pilot, so I cannot give you definite answer, but supersonic speed and 280 mph higher speed sounds like a big advantage.
2. this seems true
3. not true, it is more like 40 million:
Mig-35
"Unitary Cost: USD$40 million"

Russian air force lifeline for near-dead MiG-35 - Rediff.com India News
"Priced at approximately 40 million dollars a piece, this twin-engined aircraft, said to be a derivative of the MiG-29M fighter jet, was a huge hope for the RAC-MiG Corp for generating revenues, and the loss in the Indian tender could even effect its chances of probable sales in other nations."

Russia takes India’s MMRCA decision calmly - Indian Punchline
"The Russian interpretation, on the whole, is that India has taken a well-thought out strategic decision in opting for the European aircraft, which is why MiG-35 although the cheapest bid (around 40 million dollars per piece) lost to Rafael although the French bid at 79.5 million dollars per aircraft was the most expensive bid."

I think Mig 35 is a great choice for Bangladesh for air superiority role, because Chinese production lines are too busy with J-10B production for PLAAF orders and Mikoyan cannot get export orders for Mig 35:
Russian Air Force to induct a hundred MiG-35 fighters after 2016 | Russia Beyond The Headlines

And BAF should not depend on only expensive air superiority fighters to gain sufficient numerical strength in its fleet, for that you will need cheaper multi-role fighters, "stop gap" F-7BGI will not cut it for this role in the future. This is where JF-17 comes in, where we can deploy it in large numbers at 20-25 million a piece, either block 1 or 2. Introduction of JF-17 in BAF will also increase our need to train with Chinese avionics and armaments (F-7BGI experience is not enough) and that will make it necessary to induct the L-15 trainers.

We also need to complete upgrading all our existing Mig 29 to SMT version.

So bottom line:
- I agree to Mig 35 as a great choice for air superiority fighter, we should start with at least 1 squadron of these, Yak-130's will be useful to train for all Mig's, 29 or 35, so existing 24 is enough for now
- I propose considering JF-17 block 1 or 2 as multi-role fighter in BAF, we should start with 1 squadron of these
- if JF-17 is accepted as the main multi-role fighter for BAF, then we should get 4 or 5 L-15 trainers

Once our pilots have the chance to fly these planes and the ground crew has the chance to maintain them, then further decisions should be made about which ones should be ordered next based on pilot and ground crew preference and consensus.

 

[kalu_miah]

Russian Defense Ministry Delays Deal on MiG-35 Jets – Report | Military & Intelligence | RIA Novosti

Procurement: MiG-35 Matches The F-35 In Delays

September 4, 2013: Russia recently announced that it would not, as earlier revealed, order 37 of its new (and still in development) MiG-35D fighters. Because of development problems, this order will now be delayed until 2016. The original price was to be about $29 million per aircraft.

Described as the equivalent of the American F-35, the MiG-35D would be the low-end to the high end T-50 (the Russian F-22). The T-50 is no F-22 and the MiG-35D is no F-35. The MiG-35D is a considerably redesigned MiG-29. The 29 ton MiG-35D is armed with one 30mm autocannon and can carry over (by how much is not yet clear) five tons of bombs. The big selling point for the MiG-35D is its offensive and defensive electronics, as well as sensors for finding targets on land or sea. This stuff looks very impressive on paper but the Russians have long had problems getting performance to match promises. This is particularly the case with the advanced electronics of the MiG-35D, which are running into problems because the F-35 electronics set a very high bar.

The 27 ton American F-35 is armed with an internal 25mm cannon and four internal air-to-air missiles (or two missiles and two smart bombs), plus four external smart bombs and two missiles. All sensors are carried internally, and max weapon load is 6.8 tons. The aircraft is very stealthy when just carrying internal weapons.

The MiG-35D has little stealth capability. The MiG-35D first flew six years ago, and there are currently about ten prototypes being used for testing and development work. The MiG-35D is expected to enter service some time before the end of the decade. The MiG-35D will sell for less than half of what the F-35 goes for (currently over $120 million each).


Russia, Egypt to discus MiG-35 fighter jets deal in October: Agency - Egypt - Ahram Online

Russia, Egypt to discus MiG-35 fighter jets deal in October: Agency
Deal with Russia comes amid speculation that Egypt may be reducing its military cooperation with the United States
Ahram Online, Monday 29 Sep 2014

File Photo: A MiG-35 jet performs a low pass during the MAKS-2009 international air show in Zhukovsky, Russia on August 21, 2009 (Photo: Reuters)

Russia plans to hold talks in Egypt next month over the latter’s planned purchase of MiG-35 fighter jets, reported Russian news agency ITAR-TASS on Monday.

“They [Egyptian representatives] visited our corporation. We hope that we will be invited to technical talks next month,” Director-General of Russia’s Aircraft Corporation MiG Sergei Korotkov said.

The deal, which is reportedly worth LE21 billion ($3 billion), was reported in February amid suggestions Egypt is aiming to reduce its military cooperation with the US, whose ties with the North African country took a turn after the ouster of Islamist president Mohamed Morsi last year.

In an interview during the last presidential election, however, Egypt’s president Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi, stressed that Egypt has always had strong ties with Russia and that this does not affect cooperation with the US.

Since signing a peace treaty with Israel in 1970, Egypt has been receiving some LE9.1 billion ($1.3 billion) in annual US military aid. Egypt had strong ties with Russia in the 1950s and 1960s, as the Soviet Union was the main supplier of arms to Egypt until the early 1970s.

After Morsi's ouster, the United States held the delivery of Apache helicopters but decided to lift its ban in April. The attack aircrafts are yet to be delivered, with El-Sisi calling on the US to send them in a recent televised interview with American station, CBS.

MiG-35 Fulcrum-F Multirole Fighter - Airforce Technology
MiG-35 Fulcrum-F Multirole Fighter, Russia


MiG-35 is a new export variant that combines the modern systems of the MiG-29M2 with an AESA radar. The fighter plane has the thrust vectoring of the MiG-29OVT as an additional option. Improved avionics and weapon systems, notably the new AESA radar and the uniquely designed optical locator system (OLS), make the aircraft less dependent on ground-controlled interception (GCI) systems and enables the MiG-35 to conduct independent multirole missions.

MiG-35 is compatible with Russian and foreign-origin weapons applications and an integrated variety of defensive systems to increase combat survivability. The fighter plane is being marketed globally under the designation MiG-35 (single seat) and MiG-35D (dual seat). MiG Corporation made their first official international MiG-35 presentation during Aero India 2007. MiG-35 Fulcrum-F is an export version of the MiG-29M OVT (Fulcrum F).

MiG-35 AESA radar
MiG-35 will be the first Russian aircraft to be fitted with active electronically scanned array radar. The Zhuk-MA's antenna consists of 160 modules, each with four receive-and-transmit modules. It is believed to offer a 160km (85nm) air target detection radius and 300km for surface ships.

Like radar, OLS allows the MiG-35 to detect targets and aim weapon systems. But, unlike radar, OLS has no emissions, meaning it cannot be detected.

OLS works like a human eye by getting the picture and later analysing it. NII PP, the federal space agency science and research institute's engineers have chosen more short-wave bands for the matrix, which has increased sensitivity of the complex several times and has increased detection range.

"MiG-35 is a new export variant that combines the modern systems of the MiG-29M2 with an AESA radar."
The OLS on the MiG-35 is considered to help pilots to spot even the USAF's stealth planes. OLS includes a complex of powerful optics with IR vision that makes it impossible for any plane to hide.

OLS solves the problem of blurred vision. At speed, each piece of dust can cause harm to the glass of the OLS. The new OLS uses leuco-sapphire, the next-hardest material after artificial diamonds, making the lifetime for such glass much longer. According to NII PP engineers, leuco-sapphire is clear for all the OLS emissions and doesn't corrupt the signal, an important factor for the optical systems.

MiG-35 engines
The MiG-35 is powered by two RD-33MKBs that can be fitted with KliVT swivel-nozzles and a thrust vectoring control (TVC) system. The MiG-35's combination of TVC and advanced missile-warning sensors gives it the edge during combat.

RD-33 engines generate 7% more power compared to the baseline model due to the modern materials that go into the manufacturing of the cooled blades. The engines provide a higher-than-average thrust of 9,000kgf. RD-33 engines are smokeless and include systems that reduce infrared and optical visibility. The engines may be fitted with vectored-thrust nozzles, which would result in an improvement in combat efficiency.

Russia's developmental work on thrust vectoring started in 1980s. The Sukhoi and Saturn / Lyulka engine design bureaus led the way, and their efforts resulted in the Su-30 MKI aircraft. The MiG and Klimov engine bureaus began their work in the field of thrust vector engines a little later and aimed at all-aspect thrust vectoring, as opposed to Sukhoi / Saturn's two dimensional (horizontal / vertical) vectoring.

Klimov achieved all-aspect vectoring with the aid of three hydraulic actuators that deflect the nozzles, and are mounted at 120A° intervals around the engine nacelle. This enabled MiG-35 to fly at very low speeds without angle-of-attack limitations, and ensured that it will also remain controllable in zero-speed and 'negative-speed' (tail-forward) areas for sustained periods.

Manoeuvrability
The MiG-35 is a highly manoeuvrable air superiority fighter, which was shown for the first time in August 2005 during the MAKS Air Show outside Moscow. The fighter is powered by RD-33 OVT thrust vectoring control engines. The RD-33 OVT engines provide superior manoeuvrability and enhance the fighter's performance in close air-to-air engagements.

The MiG-35 presents super-manoeuvrability, a capability to fly at supercritical angles of attack at increased level of sustained and available g-loads and high turn-angle rate, which requires a greater thrust-to-weight ratio and improved wing aerodynamic efficiency.

"The MiG-35 is a highly manoeuvrable air superiority fighter."
MiG-35 weapons
The aircraft's suite of guided weapons includes Kh-31A anti-ship missiles with active radar seekers, the Kh-31P anti-radar missiles, Kh-29TE missiles and KAB-500Kr TV-guided bombs. Added, when equipped with an external optical / laser targeting pod, the fighter can use the Kh-29L air-to-surface missiles and KAB-500L laser-guided bombs. These weapons will allow the aircraft to engage aerial and land targets.

Italy-based Elettronica signed an agreement with Mikoyan in 2007 to support in incorporating ELT/568(V)2 self-protection jammer in the MiG-35. The jammer renders self defence from radar controlled anti-aircraft artillery.

Refuelling
An addition of a strap-on tank behind the cockpit has allowed MiG-35 to have a higher internal fuel capacity of 950l. The capacity of the external fuel tank suspended under the fuselage has increased up to 2,000l. Ferry range with three external fuel tanks has also been increased, rising to 3,100km, and with one in-flight refuelling the range will be 5,400km.

The fuel management system has also been digitised, and includes a new digital fuel metering system.

Aero India 2007 launch
The final version of MiG-35 was displayed for the first time at Aero India 2007. The prototype of the MiG-35 had been shown to the public in 2005 at air shows in Russia and the UK. MiG-35 is a contender to the Eurofighter Typhoon, F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Rafale, JAS 39 Gripen and F-16 Falcon for the bid of more than 126 multirole combat aircraft worth $10bn to be procured by the Indian Air Force in Indian MRCA competition.

Mikoyan will commence production of the MiG-35 fighter at the Sokol aviation plant in Russia in 2013 or 2014 as part of the bid.

Performance
The MiG-35 can climb at the rate of 330m/s. Its maximum speed is 2,400km/h. The normal and ferry range of the aircraft are 2,000km and 3,100km respectively. The service ceiling is 17,500m. The aircraft weighs around 11,000kg and its maximum take-off weight is 29,700kg.

- MiG-35/MiG-35D

PRODUCTSMILITARY PROGRAMS

MiG-35/MiG-35D

The MiG-35 (single seat) and MiG-35D (double seat) are the "4++" generation multi-role fighters, exhibiting the further development of the MiG-29K/KUB and MiG-29M/M2 fighters in the field of the combat efficiency enhancement, universality and operational characteristics improvement.

The MiG-35/MiG-35D main features are the following:
– the fifth generation information-sighting systems integration into aircraft airborne avionics;
– possibility of advanced Russian and foreign origin weapons application;
– increased combat survivability due to integration of airborne integrated defense system.

State-of-the art avionics in combination with advanced weapons allow the MiG-35/MiG-35D fighters fulfill a great number of missions:
– air superiority gaining against four & fifth generation fighters;
– interception of existing and being developed air attack means;
– ground/surface targets destruction with high precision weapons without entering the air defense zone day and night in any weather conditions;
– air reconnaissance using optical-electronic and radio-technical equipment;
– participation in group actions and air control over groups of fighters.

The MiG-35/MiG-35D fighters structure is based upon the following achievements obtained on the MiG-29K/KUB, MiG-29M/M2 aircraft:
– increased weapons load stored at nine external stations;
– increased fuel capacity, in-flight refueling and possibility of using as a tanker;
– airframe & main systems anti-corrosion protection technology which meets the standards developed for carrier-based aircraft thus simplifying fighters operation in tropical weather conditions;
– significantly reduced radar signature;
– three channel fly-by-wire control system with quadruple redundancy.

In the course of the MiG-35 aircraft development the most attention was paid to operational characteristics improvement:
– reliability of aircraft, engines and avionics is significantly increased;
– lifetime and service life are extended;
– mean time between overhauls (MTBO) of engines is increased;
– the MiG-35 aircraft flight hour cost is almost 2.5 times lower than those of the MiG-29 fighter;
– the MiG-35 aircraft is intended for the on-condition maintenance.

The complex of technical and technological solutions has been developed for the MiG-35/MiG-35D aircraft which provides for independent operation, like airborne oxygen generation plant.

The power plant includes two engines RD-33MK with increased thrust power, equipped with smokeless combustion chamber and new electronic control system (of FADEC type). Engines are of the module structure and have increased reliability and service life.

Upon customer request the fighters can be equipped with "all aspect" thrust vectored RD-33MK engines ensuring the aircraft superiority in the maneuvering dogfight. The power plant of two thrust vectored engines was tested on the super-maneuverable prototype-aircraft MiG-29M OVT.

The airborne avionics of the MiG-35/MiG-35D aircraft is developed on the basis of the new generation technologies.

The multi-role radar with active phased array provides for advantage over the competitors due to the following factors:
– extended range of operating frequencies;
– increased quantity of detected, tracked and attacked targets;
– possibility of simultaneous attack of air and ground targets;
– extended detection range;
– enhanced resolution in the surface mapping mode;
– high jamming protection and survivability.

The IRST system with infra-red, TV and laser sighting equipment has been developed using the space technologies which were not applied previously in aviation. The system distinctive features are the increased range, detection, tracking, identification and lock-on of air, ground/surface targets in the forward and rear hemispheres, at day and night measuring the distance with laser range-finder as well as the formation of target designation and laser illumination of ground targets. The IRST system and new helmet-mounted target designation system are integrated into the armament control system. In addition to the built-in IRST system the MiG-35 aircraft is equipped with a podded one.

The MiG-35/MiG-35D aircraft is provided with a defense system including in particular:
– radio electronic reconnaissance and electronic counter measures;
– optronic systems for detection of attacking missiles and laser emission;
– decoy dispensers to counteract the enemy in the radar and infrared ranges.

In addition to the "A-A" and "A-S" class weapons applied on the MiG-29K/KUB and MiG-29M/M2 aircraft the advanced aircraft armament, which have not been offered earlier for export, is being included into the MiG-35/MiG-35D aircraft weapons. The long range weapons capable to attack targets without approaching the air defence zone are among them.

Avionics’ open architecture allows installation on aircraft of new equipment and weapons of Russian and foreign origin upon customer’s request.

Both the single and double seat versions of aircraft have the same airborne equipment and weapons as well as the high unification level of structure.

For the MiG-35/MiG-35D fighters the full set of training means was developed including the interactive computer-based training system and a number of simulators including the full-mission simulator with a motion system.

The basic version of the MiG-35/MiG-35D fighter is designed taking into account the international cooperation organization when developing new modifications of aircraft and during serial production.

 

[BDforever]

Russian Defense Ministry Delays Deal on MiG-35 Jets – Report | Military & Intelligence | RIA Novosti

Procurement: MiG-35 Matches The F-35 In Delays

September 4, 2013: Russia recently announced that it would not, as earlier revealed, order 37 of its new (and still in development) MiG-35D fighters. Because of development problems, this order will now be delayed until 2016. The original price was to be about $29 million per aircraft.

Described as the equivalent of the American F-35, the MiG-35D would be the low-end to the high end T-50 (the Russian F-22). The T-50 is no F-22 and the MiG-35D is no F-35. The MiG-35D is a considerably redesigned MiG-29. The 29 ton MiG-35D is armed with one 30mm autocannon and can carry over (by how much is not yet clear) five tons of bombs. The big selling point for the MiG-35D is its offensive and defensive electronics, as well as sensors for finding targets on land or sea. This stuff looks very impressive on paper but the Russians have long had problems getting performance to match promises. This is particularly the case with the advanced electronics of the MiG-35D, which are running into problems because the F-35 electronics set a very high bar.

The 27 ton American F-35 is armed with an internal 25mm cannon and four internal air-to-air missiles (or two missiles and two smart bombs), plus four external smart bombs and two missiles. All sensors are carried internally, and max weapon load is 6.8 tons. The aircraft is very stealthy when just carrying internal weapons.

The MiG-35D has little stealth capability. The MiG-35D first flew six years ago, and there are currently about ten prototypes being used for testing and development work. The MiG-35D is expected to enter service some time before the end of the decade. The MiG-35D will sell for less than half of what the F-35 goes for (currently over $120 million each).


Russia, Egypt to discus MiG-35 fighter jets deal in October: Agency - Egypt - Ahram Online

Russia, Egypt to discus MiG-35 fighter jets deal in October: Agency
Deal with Russia comes amid speculation that Egypt may be reducing its military cooperation with the United States
Ahram Online, Monday 29 Sep 2014

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File Photo: A MiG-35 jet performs a low pass during the MAKS-2009 international air show in Zhukovsky, Russia on August 21, 2009 (Photo: Reuters)

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Russia plans to hold talks in Egypt next month over the latter’s planned purchase of MiG-35 fighter jets, reported Russian news agency ITAR-TASS on Monday.

“They [Egyptian representatives] visited our corporation. We hope that we will be invited to technical talks next month,” Director-General of Russia’s Aircraft Corporation MiG Sergei Korotkov said.

The deal, which is reportedly worth LE21 billion ($3 billion), was reported in February amid suggestions Egypt is aiming to reduce its military cooperation with the US, whose ties with the North African country took a turn after the ouster of Islamist president Mohamed Morsi last year.

In an interview during the last presidential election, however, Egypt’s president Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi, stressed that Egypt has always had strong ties with Russia and that this does not affect cooperation with the US.

Since signing a peace treaty with Israel in 1970, Egypt has been receiving some LE9.1 billion ($1.3 billion) in annual US military aid. Egypt had strong ties with Russia in the 1950s and 1960s, as the Soviet Union was the main supplier of arms to Egypt until the early 1970s.

After Morsi's ouster, the United States held the delivery of Apache helicopters but decided to lift its ban in April. The attack aircrafts are yet to be delivered, with El-Sisi calling on the US to send them in a recent televised interview with American station, CBS.

MiG-35 Fulcrum-F Multirole Fighter - Airforce Technology
MiG-35 Fulcrum-F Multirole Fighter, Russia
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MiG-35 is a new export variant that combines the modern systems of the MiG-29M2 with an AESA radar. The fighter plane has the thrust vectoring of the MiG-29OVT as an additional option. Improved avionics and weapon systems, notably the new AESA radar and the uniquely designed optical locator system (OLS), make the aircraft less dependent on ground-controlled interception (GCI) systems and enables the MiG-35 to conduct independent multirole missions.

MiG-35 is compatible with Russian and foreign-origin weapons applications and an integrated variety of defensive systems to increase combat survivability. The fighter plane is being marketed globally under the designation MiG-35 (single seat) and MiG-35D (dual seat). MiG Corporation made their first official international MiG-35 presentation during Aero India 2007. MiG-35 Fulcrum-F is an export version of the MiG-29M OVT (Fulcrum F).

MiG-35 AESA radar
MiG-35 will be the first Russian aircraft to be fitted with active electronically scanned array radar. The Zhuk-MA's antenna consists of 160 modules, each with four receive-and-transmit modules. It is believed to offer a 160km (85nm) air target detection radius and 300km for surface ships.

Like radar, OLS allows the MiG-35 to detect targets and aim weapon systems. But, unlike radar, OLS has no emissions, meaning it cannot be detected.

OLS works like a human eye by getting the picture and later analysing it. NII PP, the federal space agency science and research institute's engineers have chosen more short-wave bands for the matrix, which has increased sensitivity of the complex several times and has increased detection range.

"MiG-35 is a new export variant that combines the modern systems of the MiG-29M2 with an AESA radar."
The OLS on the MiG-35 is considered to help pilots to spot even the USAF's stealth planes. OLS includes a complex of powerful optics with IR vision that makes it impossible for any plane to hide.

OLS solves the problem of blurred vision. At speed, each piece of dust can cause harm to the glass of the OLS. The new OLS uses leuco-sapphire, the next-hardest material after artificial diamonds, making the lifetime for such glass much longer. According to NII PP engineers, leuco-sapphire is clear for all the OLS emissions and doesn't corrupt the signal, an important factor for the optical systems.

MiG-35 engines
The MiG-35 is powered by two RD-33MKBs that can be fitted with KliVT swivel-nozzles and a thrust vectoring control (TVC) system. The MiG-35's combination of TVC and advanced missile-warning sensors gives it the edge during combat.

RD-33 engines generate 7% more power compared to the baseline model due to the modern materials that go into the manufacturing of the cooled blades. The engines provide a higher-than-average thrust of 9,000kgf. RD-33 engines are smokeless and include systems that reduce infrared and optical visibility. The engines may be fitted with vectored-thrust nozzles, which would result in an improvement in combat efficiency.

Russia's developmental work on thrust vectoring started in 1980s. The Sukhoi and Saturn / Lyulka engine design bureaus led the way, and their efforts resulted in the Su-30 MKI aircraft. The MiG and Klimov engine bureaus began their work in the field of thrust vector engines a little later and aimed at all-aspect thrust vectoring, as opposed to Sukhoi / Saturn's two dimensional (horizontal / vertical) vectoring.

Klimov achieved all-aspect vectoring with the aid of three hydraulic actuators that deflect the nozzles, and are mounted at 120A° intervals around the engine nacelle. This enabled MiG-35 to fly at very low speeds without angle-of-attack limitations, and ensured that it will also remain controllable in zero-speed and 'negative-speed' (tail-forward) areas for sustained periods.

Manoeuvrability
The MiG-35 is a highly manoeuvrable air superiority fighter, which was shown for the first time in August 2005 during the MAKS Air Show outside Moscow. The fighter is powered by RD-33 OVT thrust vectoring control engines. The RD-33 OVT engines provide superior manoeuvrability and enhance the fighter's performance in close air-to-air engagements.

The MiG-35 presents super-manoeuvrability, a capability to fly at supercritical angles of attack at increased level of sustained and available g-loads and high turn-angle rate, which requires a greater thrust-to-weight ratio and improved wing aerodynamic efficiency.

"The MiG-35 is a highly manoeuvrable air superiority fighter."
MiG-35 weapons
The aircraft's suite of guided weapons includes Kh-31A anti-ship missiles with active radar seekers, the Kh-31P anti-radar missiles, Kh-29TE missiles and KAB-500Kr TV-guided bombs. Added, when equipped with an external optical / laser targeting pod, the fighter can use the Kh-29L air-to-surface missiles and KAB-500L laser-guided bombs. These weapons will allow the aircraft to engage aerial and land targets.

Italy-based Elettronica signed an agreement with Mikoyan in 2007 to support in incorporating ELT/568(V)2 self-protection jammer in the MiG-35. The jammer renders self defence from radar controlled anti-aircraft artillery.

Refuelling
An addition of a strap-on tank behind the cockpit has allowed MiG-35 to have a higher internal fuel capacity of 950l. The capacity of the external fuel tank suspended under the fuselage has increased up to 2,000l. Ferry range with three external fuel tanks has also been increased, rising to 3,100km, and with one in-flight refuelling the range will be 5,400km.

The fuel management system has also been digitised, and includes a new digital fuel metering system.

Aero India 2007 launch
The final version of MiG-35 was displayed for the first time at Aero India 2007. The prototype of the MiG-35 had been shown to the public in 2005 at air shows in Russia and the UK. MiG-35 is a contender to the Eurofighter Typhoon, F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Rafale, JAS 39 Gripen and F-16 Falcon for the bid of more than 126 multirole combat aircraft worth $10bn to be procured by the Indian Air Force in Indian MRCA competition.

Mikoyan will commence production of the MiG-35 fighter at the Sokol aviation plant in Russia in 2013 or 2014 as part of the bid.

Performance
The MiG-35 can climb at the rate of 330m/s. Its maximum speed is 2,400km/h. The normal and ferry range of the aircraft are 2,000km and 3,100km respectively. The service ceiling is 17,500m. The aircraft weighs around 11,000kg and its maximum take-off weight is 29,700kg.

- MiG-35/MiG-35D

PRODUCTSMILITARY PROGRAMS

MiG-35/MiG-35D

The MiG-35 (single seat) and MiG-35D (double seat) are the "4++" generation multi-role fighters, exhibiting the further development of the MiG-29K/KUB and MiG-29M/M2 fighters in the field of the combat efficiency enhancement, universality and operational characteristics improvement.

The MiG-35/MiG-35D main features are the following:
– the fifth generation information-sighting systems integration into aircraft airborne avionics;
– possibility of advanced Russian and foreign origin weapons application;
– increased combat survivability due to integration of airborne integrated defense system.

State-of-the art avionics in combination with advanced weapons allow the MiG-35/MiG-35D fighters fulfill a great number of missions:
– air superiority gaining against four & fifth generation fighters;
– interception of existing and being developed air attack means;
– ground/surface targets destruction with high precision weapons without entering the air defense zone day and night in any weather conditions;
– air reconnaissance using optical-electronic and radio-technical equipment;
– participation in group actions and air control over groups of fighters.

The MiG-35/MiG-35D fighters structure is based upon the following achievements obtained on the MiG-29K/KUB, MiG-29M/M2 aircraft:
– increased weapons load stored at nine external stations;
– increased fuel capacity, in-flight refueling and possibility of using as a tanker;
– airframe & main systems anti-corrosion protection technology which meets the standards developed for carrier-based aircraft thus simplifying fighters operation in tropical weather conditions;
– significantly reduced radar signature;
– three channel fly-by-wire control system with quadruple redundancy.

In the course of the MiG-35 aircraft development the most attention was paid to operational characteristics improvement:
– reliability of aircraft, engines and avionics is significantly increased;
– lifetime and service life are extended;
– mean time between overhauls (MTBO) of engines is increased;
– the MiG-35 aircraft flight hour cost is almost 2.5 times lower than those of the MiG-29 fighter;
– the MiG-35 aircraft is intended for the on-condition maintenance.

The complex of technical and technological solutions has been developed for the MiG-35/MiG-35D aircraft which provides for independent operation, like airborne oxygen generation plant.

The power plant includes two engines RD-33MK with increased thrust power, equipped with smokeless combustion chamber and new electronic control system (of FADEC type). Engines are of the module structure and have increased reliability and service life.

Upon customer request the fighters can be equipped with "all aspect" thrust vectored RD-33MK engines ensuring the aircraft superiority in the maneuvering dogfight. The power plant of two thrust vectored engines was tested on the super-maneuverable prototype-aircraft MiG-29M OVT.

The airborne avionics of the MiG-35/MiG-35D aircraft is developed on the basis of the new generation technologies.

The multi-role radar with active phased array provides for advantage over the competitors due to the following factors:
– extended range of operating frequencies;
– increased quantity of detected, tracked and attacked targets;
– possibility of simultaneous attack of air and ground targets;
– extended detection range;
– enhanced resolution in the surface mapping mode;
– high jamming protection and survivability.

The IRST system with infra-red, TV and laser sighting equipment has been developed using the space technologies which were not applied previously in aviation. The system distinctive features are the increased range, detection, tracking, identification and lock-on of air, ground/surface targets in the forward and rear hemispheres, at day and night measuring the distance with laser range-finder as well as the formation of target designation and laser illumination of ground targets. The IRST system and new helmet-mounted target designation system are integrated into the armament control system. In addition to the built-in IRST system the MiG-35 aircraft is equipped with a podded one.

The MiG-35/MiG-35D aircraft is provided with a defense system including in particular:
– radio electronic reconnaissance and electronic counter measures;
– optronic systems for detection of attacking missiles and laser emission;
– decoy dispensers to counteract the enemy in the radar and infrared ranges.

In addition to the "A-A" and "A-S" class weapons applied on the MiG-29K/KUB and MiG-29M/M2 aircraft the advanced aircraft armament, which have not been offered earlier for export, is being included into the MiG-35/MiG-35D aircraft weapons. The long range weapons capable to attack targets without approaching the air defence zone are among them.

Avionics’ open architecture allows installation on aircraft of new equipment and weapons of Russian and foreign origin upon customer’s request.

Both the single and double seat versions of aircraft have the same airborne equipment and weapons as well as the high unification level of structure.

For the MiG-35/MiG-35D fighters the full set of training means was developed including the interactive computer-based training system and a number of simulators including the full-mission simulator with a motion system.

The basic version of the MiG-35/MiG-35D fighter is designed taking into account the international cooperation organization when developing new modifications of aircraft and during serial production.

1. i know Mig 35 info very well.
http://www.aircraftcompare.com/helicopter-airplane/Mikoyan-MIG-35/375 good source of pricing.
and recently Russia offered Mig 35 to Serbia below $30 million price.
2. JF-17 will not give you air superiority. it is second layer of air defence aircraft. try to understand that. number of aircraft is not important if it does not serve the purpose.

 

[kalu_miah]

@Bilal9 Please look at posts from last page from #1349 till above and please comment:

- I agree to Mig 35 as a great choice for air superiority fighter, we should start with at least 1 squadron of these, Yak-130's will be useful to train for all Mig's, 29 or 35, so existing 24 is enough for now
- I propose considering JF-17 block 1 or 2 as multi-role fighter in BAF, we should start with 1 squadron of these
- if JF-17 is accepted as the main multi-role fighter for BAF, then we should get 4 or 5 L-15 trainers

Source: Bangladesh Air Force | Page 91

For heavy payload air superiority fighter, I also recommend some Su 35.

We should move to Chinese 5th gen fighters after few decades in the future. For now above should be our mainstay.

 

[BDforever]

@Bilal9 Please look at posts from last page from #1349 till above and please comment:

- I agree to Mig 35 as a great choice for air superiority fighter, we should start with at least 1 squadron of these, Yak-130's will be useful to train for all Mig's, 29 or 35, so existing 24 is enough for now
- I propose considering JF-17 block 1 or 2 as multi-role fighter in BAF, we should start with 1 squadron of these
- if JF-17 is accepted as the main multi-role fighter for BAF, then we should get 4 or 5 L-15 trainers

Source: Bangladesh Air Force | Page 91

For heavy payload air superiority fighter, I also recommend some Su 35.

We should move to Chinese 5th gen fighters after few decades in the future. For now above should be our mainstay.

JF-17 is 2nd line multi-role, even Mig 35 can be called multirole if you compare it with JF-17

 

[kalu_miah]

JF-17 is 2nd line multi-role, even Mig 35 can be called multirole if you compare it with JF-17

Air superiority fighter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Multirole combat aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Air superiority vs strike fighter - Modern Military Aircraft
Air superiority fighters

 

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Air superiority fighter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Multirole combat aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Air superiority vs strike fighter - Modern Military Aircraft
Air superiority fighters

LOL LOL

now go check weapon systems used by Mig 35 and Jf-17 , their radars
etc
no need to give me definition lol

 

[NDLS]

i like bangladesh

 

[帅的一匹]

 

[Zabaniyah]

@Bilal9 Please look at posts from last page from #1349 till above and please comment:

- I agree to Mig 35 as a great choice for air superiority fighter, we should start with at least 1 squadron of these, Yak-130's will be useful to train for all Mig's, 29 or 35, so existing 24 is enough for now
- I propose considering JF-17 block 1 or 2 as multi-role fighter in BAF, we should start with 1 squadron of these
- if JF-17 is accepted as the main multi-role fighter for BAF, then we should get 4 or 5 L-15 trainers

Source: Bangladesh Air Force | Page 91

For heavy payload air superiority fighter, I also recommend some Su 35.

We should move to Chinese 5th gen fighters after few decades in the future. For now above should be our mainstay.

Bangladesh doesn't need air-superiority aircraft. Multi-role would fit the bill. Both the MiG-35 and Su-35 are multi-roles.

Why would we even want Russian planes? Those R-27's are garbage.