Bangladesh Air Force

[mb444]

They look rubbish... Stopgap does not mean buy the same when everyone else is moving ahead. Maybe functionally they are better but I am disheartened by these pictures.

 

[Avisheik]

They look rubbish... Stopgap does not mean buy the same when everyone else is moving ahead. Maybe functionally they are better but I am disheartened by these pictures.

Looks doesnt really matter what matters is their capability. I know these aircrafts are 3rd gen but its the best we could buy with our limited budget.

Buying the same aircraft will save us from spending too much on adapting to a new platform of interceptor aircrafts. Anyway dont be disheartened. We are buying YAK 130, which is used for training 4+ gen fighters. So we will get them in the near future

 

[emotionless_teenage]

I have a doubt that F-7BGI is capable enough to replace these super-capable (in its class) deep penetration attack aircraft. These are legends. Even PLAAF has not found any suitable replacement for these.

that's because PLAAF does not seek another ground attack aircraft.since their Su-30MKK and J-10 could also do the job(being a multirole aircraft)

They look rubbish... Stopgap does not mean buy the same when everyone else is moving ahead. Maybe functionally they are better but I am disheartened by these pictures.

The new F-7 will replace the older one(which will be phased out in the near future).so at least the air force does not lose quantitatively.newer F-7 would also means better all round performance than previous F-7 version and would cost less to maintain as well(less airframe and engine fatigue,safer,etc). bonus point is that the logistics department already know how to maintain F-7 so there would be less issue do deal.

a Hi-Lo mix of MiG-29SMT and new F-7 would be more than capable to perform tactical air interdiction.

 

[Asif8371]

I recently read a piece of article, where BAF confirmed the purchase of 16 F-7BGIs fitted with precision guided missiles system from China. Nevertheless, aren't the F-7 a bit obsolete? Even after being fitted with PGM cause, this won't actually make them anymore edgile or faster in future standoff. Now I know that Bangladesh doesn't have any sorts of threats from any of its immediate neighbors but there is enough evidence that shows that Asia as a whole is getting into an arms race, with China and India leading the pack, apparently even Myanmar is moving towards big purchases. This is a country with whom Bangladesh had a standoff not so long ago and as air superiority is a major factor in terms of overcoming any confrontation, I was wondering what our BAF has up its sleeves in case of an all out conflict with Myanmar. Moreover what is the current state of our air defence, radars and anti aircraft hardware?? Also is there any confirmed news about the purchase of 4 or 4+ generation fighters addition into the BAF??

 

[Zabaniyah]

New F-7BGIs soon on their way from China to Bangladesh：

Oh boy...so much for all the huff and puff over that "nose" thingy

Nice paint job though...

all other countries are in the process of retiring their MIG-21's and F-7's and BDAF is inducting new one's......is this a good decision considering how old the fighter is???

For Bangladeshi politicians, this baby is like the F-22 Raptor to them

It's just that Bangladesh doesn't have a budget large enough to procure a sufficient fleet of modern 4+ generation fighters.

It's a $130+ billion economy (not including the shadow economy) with a population of over 150 million (and growing) after all.

Naval and air force matters are expensive to begin with. It's simply not for everybody.

Though, I agree with emotionless teen, BAF would do well with a hi-lo mix of updated F-7s and MiG-29SMTs.

 

[Zabaniyah]

I recently read a piece of article, where BAF confirmed the purchase of 16 F-7BGIs fitted with precision guided missiles system from China. Nevertheless, aren't the F-7 a bit obsolete?

I think having GPS bombing capability is pretty impressive for such an old platform. The Chinese aviation industry has indeed come a long way.

Even after being fitted with PGM cause, this won't actually make them anymore edgile or faster in future standoff. Now I know that Bangladesh doesn't have any sorts of threats from any of its immediate neighbors but there is enough evidence that shows that Asia as a whole is getting into an arms race, with China and India leading the pack, apparently even Myanmar is moving towards big purchases. This is a country with whom Bangladesh had a standoff not so long ago and as air superiority is a major factor in terms of overcoming any confrontation, I was wondering what our BAF has up its sleeves in case of an all out conflict with Myanmar. Moreover what is the current state of our air defence, radars and anti aircraft hardware?? Also is there any confirmed news about the purchase of 4 or 4+ generation fighters addition into the BAF??

Myanmar's air force is questionable despite all the Wikipedia fan claims. But then, the risk of military conflict with Myanmar is low at the moment - unless their leaders are stupid.

The way to deal with Myanmar is through trade, with China acting as a leverage for us. That country has very high unemployment. Increasing trade will soften their attitudes towards Bangladesh (with whom they have hostile feelings for mysterious reasons).

If the Burmese do attack any neighboring country, be it Bangladesh, Thailand or anyone, the consequences would be severe.

As what has been said previously, BAF would have to use a hi-lo combo for its aircraft. It can never afford a large fleet of advanced aircraft due to its budget.

And news like "we are getting 80 Flankers!" are all dumb and unverified sources.

As for air defense, BAF is working on a five-tier air defense system. Much of it likely to be procured from China. There is now FM-90 (confirmed). There are rumors of LY-60 and H-20 - speculations for now.

 

[Porbot]

Is it true that bangladesh is in a process to make a fighter jet (not commercial plane) with the help of
China and it's based on F-7?

 

[kobiraaz]

The best defence bangladesh had against Myanmar was international diplomacy and friends!! But now as we know USA even started military practise with Myanmar- We are alone!! we need to bring change in our military procurement policy!!

 

[Avisheik]

Is it true that bangladesh is in a process to make a fighter jet (not commercial plane) with the help of
China and it's based on F-7?

Nope not true. But there are plans to build a light aircraft for the military by 2021.

 

[eastwatch]

With the induction of new F-7BGI, BAF will be stronger than it is now, because these new planes will be replacing the old A-5 planes. Note one thing, F-7 (Mig-21) is the only plane in the world that is still surviving in many airforces after first introduced in the 50's.

BGI is a high speed Mach 2.0 aircraft with BVR AAM, Lesser Guided Bomb (LGB), and excellent performance for a tiny friendship price. It has also much higher rate of climbing per second than the JF-17 of China-Pakistan collaboration which the Pakistanis try to promote. Its speed is also higher than JF (Mach 1.8).

We have to understand a few basics. There are limits to the function of an airforce plane. So, a Bomber is not really a fighter plane and vice versa although both can reverse their function when needed. F-7BGI is more a bomber than it is a fighter.

When this bomber enters the air space of an enemy country to bomb that country's vital assets it is certainly accompanied by fighters like Mig-29 because the enemy fighter planes will scramble up the sky to kill the Bomber. The two groups of Fighter planes will engage each other in the dog fight and in the meantime the Bomber will drop its bombs.

The F-7BGIs have been bought by the BAF because it is ideally suited for a short distance bombing role, whereby Myanmar is the main adversary. We must also trust our military people. They won't purchase something that they will find unsuitable for a mission. Military purchases are not decided by the civilian govts because they don't know the difference between a screw and a nail.

 

[PlanetSoldier]

With the induction of new F-7BGI, BAF will be stronger than it is now, because these new planes will be replacing the old A-5 planes. Note one thing, F-7 (Mig-21) is the only plane in the world that is still surviving in many airforces after first introduced in the 50's.

BGI is a high speed Mach 2.0 aircraft with BVR AAM, Lesser Guided Bomb (LGB), and excellent performance for a tiny friendship price. It has also much higher rate of climbing per second than the JF-17 of China-Pakistan collaboration which the Pakistanis try to promote. Its speed is also higher than JF (Mach 1.8).

We have to understand a few basics. There are limits to the function of an airforce plane. So, a Bomber is not really a fighter plane and vice versa although both can reverse their function when needed. F-7BGI is more a bomber than it is a fighter.

When this bomber enters the air space of an enemy country to bomb that country's vital assets it is certainly accompanied by fighters like Mig-29 because the enemy fighter planes will scramble up the sky to kill the Bomber. The two groups of Fighter planes will engage each other in the dog fight and in the meantime the Bomber will drop its bombs.

The F-7BGIs have been bought by the BAF because it is ideally suited for a short distance bombing role, whereby Myanmar is the main adversary. We must also trust our military people. They won't purchase something that they will find unsuitable for a mission. Military purchases are not decided by the civilian govts because they don't know the difference between a screw and a nail.

While the equipments are influenced by military personnel, defence purchases in BD are always corrupt by our politicians...don't forget Hasina's dirty hand in Ulsan class frigate and Mig-29s. Besides, every govt. has some politician retired from armed forces who take part in the decision of equipments. Current planning minister some Khandaker a retired air force officer has such role in military procuremnt.

 

[manofwar]

While the equipments are influenced by military personnel, defence purchases in BD are always corrupt by our politicians...don't forget Hasina's dirty hand in Ulsan class frigate and Mig-29s. Besides, every govt. has some politician retired from armed forces who take part in the decision of equipments. Current planning minister some Khandaker a retired air force officer has such role in military procuremnt.

Bit off-topic, but can you tell why is that all the BD members at PDF consider most, if not all politicians extremely corrupt and Indian puppets?? My intention was not to troll but to know the reasons why this is said so, and provide counter argument if needed.

 

[james5]

Bangladesh air force is much stronger as compare to the past of years ago.

 

[jahidus2005]

Bangladesh air force is much stronger as compare to the past of years ago.

nah bro i really dont think so , but i believe bangladesh has one of the intelligent army in the world , but what they dont have is air defence system or 4+ generation aircraft what makes any army more stronger , but in future if bangladesh can get s300 or s400 air defence system it will be enough for bangladesh army against any enemy's threat , bcz ground fight i strongly believe bd armys are pretty strong

 

[eastwatch]

While the equipments are influenced by military personnel, defence purchases in BD are always corrupt by our politicians...don't forget Hasina's dirty hand in Ulsan class frigate and Mig-29s. Besides, every govt. has some politician retired from armed forces who take part in the decision of equipments. Current planning minister some Khandaker a retired air force officer has such role in military procuremnt.

So, you are implying that because BAF has decided to purchase INFERIOR BGI planes, therefore, Planning Minister has received a big kickback from China. Someone should respond to your pondering, but I cannot, because I have no knowledge about previous and present bribe takings. I wonder, if corruption or rumours of corruption should be a matter of discussion in this thread. Can we not talk about things rationally?

As far as I know the civilian govt in BD has very limited power to impose its purchasing wish on the military. The purchases are all according to the requirements set by the military.