Bangladesh Air Force

[LKJ86]

Hopefully, one day soon there are precision guided stand off munitions hanging from those wings rather than unguided rockets.

Would BAF consider to buy Mig-35?

 

[Avicenna]

Would BAF consider to buy Mig-35?

Consider yes.

But I hope not.

 

[LKJ86]

Consider yes.

But I hope not.

Why not?
BAF has Mig-29 already, and it will low the cost to buy Mig-35.

 

[Avicenna]

Why not?
BAF has Mig-29 already, and it will low the cost to buy Mig-35.

Mixture of politics and capability.

Buying from Russia yields no political leverage either against India or Myanmar.

That alone should disqualify Russian sourced weapons.

Also, Mig-35 is still under development. And unproven.

It's a different story for Chinese or US/EU weapons.

When Bangladesh bought those Mig-29 back in the late 90's, the US refused F-16s and so Russian fighters were the only other option.

This is not the case anymore.

Better to cut your losses now than to double down.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Why not?
BAF has Mig-29 already, and it will low the cost to buy Mig-35.

Russian after sales support is miserable. For China it’s okay as they just proceed to reverse engineer everything. For a country like Bangladesh that’s a deal breaker because we don’t have such resource

 

[Aung Zaya]

Russian after sales support is miserable. For China it’s okay as they just proceed to reverse engineer everything. For a country like Bangladesh that’s a deal breaker because we don’t have such resource

Well. Not that difficult to get proper service. Just need to negotiate. In Myanmar , they even help to build MIG-29 overhaul plant and teach know-how by sending technical and pilot teams to test.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Well. Not that difficult to get proper service. Just need to negotiate. In Myanmar , they even help to build MIG-29 overhaul plant and teach know-how by sending technical and pilot teams to test.

We get our services done from third party like Belarus and ukraine. They’re OEM maintenance providers but provide better service than the original. Even myanmar had many of their mig 29s out of action

 

[Aung Zaya]

We get our services done from third party like Belarus and ukraine. They’re OEM maintenance providers but provide better service than the original. Even myanmar had many of their mig 29s out of action

Nope. Just need to know how to deal with Russia. We got overhaul plant plus upgrade facility and the technical assistance by orginal companies to support know-how about MIG-29 upgrading and Russian pilots to test upgraded planes. I dont think we are too good in negotiation. May be u guys dont know how to deal with Russian. And our MIG-29 were never out of action as Russian provided consistently necessary spare parts except the preparing time for overhaul and upgrading. May be beacuse we have very good relationships with both other OEM providers u mentioned.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Also, Mig-35 is still under development.

Still?

 

[Michael Corleone]

Nope. Just need to know how to deal with Russia. We got overhaul plant plus upgrade facility and the technical assistance by orginal companies to support know-how about MIG-29 upgrading and Russian pilots to test upgraded planes. I dont think we are too good in negotiation. May be u guys dont know how to deal with Russian. And our MIG-29 were never out of action as Russian provided consistently necessary spare parts except the preparing time for overhaul and upgrading. May be beacuse we have very good relationships with both other OEM providers u mentioned.

You guys are known for overspending on military. It’s no big deal to get russia to do your work, just need To spend more money

 

[Avicenna]

Still?

https://ria.ru/20190617/1555619124.html (Use google translate)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-35#cite_note-MiG-35_introduction-2

As per Wikipedia 2 delivered so far to Russia as of 6/2019.

None exported yet. Egyptian "Mig-35" don't count.

Probably has alot of wrinkles to iron out.

Russia is pushing HARD to export these for MiG's sake.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...why-baku-could-receive-the-jets-at-a-discount

 

[Michael Corleone]

https://ria.ru/20190617/1555619124.html (Use google translate)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-35#cite_note-MiG-35_introduction-2

As per Wikipedia 2 delivered so far to Russia as of 6/2019.

None exported yet. Egyptian "Mig-35" don't count.

Probably has alot of wrinkles to iron out.

Russia is pushing HARD to export these for MiG's sake.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...why-baku-could-receive-the-jets-at-a-discount

Egyptians got a rebranded mig 29, those don’t have most of the improvements mig 35s should

 

[Aung Zaya]

You guys are known for overspending on military. It’s no big deal to get russia to do your work, just need To spend more money

Well. Actually no. It is alot cheaper compared to western ones and We have very limitation in using budget. Unlike BD, we have a very stronger relationship with Russia since long time ago and we are regular buyer of Russia. And also we have many military officers who lived in Russia for years and can speak and know well Russian culture. This is main point. U know Actually sending to Belarus and Ukraine is more expensive and also for upgrading in ukraine, Russia dont give any guarantee for that quality of plane. ?

 

[Michael Corleone]

Well. Actually no. It is alot cheaper compared to western ones and We have very limitation in using budget. Unlike BD, we have a very stronger relationship with Russia since long time ago and we are regular buyer of Russia. And also we have many military officers who lived in Russia for years and can speak and know well Russian culture. This is main point. U know Actually sending to Belarus and Ukraine is more expensive and also for upgrading in ukraine, Russia dont give any guarantee for that quality of plane. ?

Guarantee period doesn’t last for the entire lifespan of the plane. Y’all have defense pact signed with them and y’all spend more percentage of your GDP on defense to keep up with your neighbors. Fact is this is not sustainable.

 

[tarpitz]

Well. Actually no. It is alot cheaper compared to western ones and We have very limitation in using budget. Unlike BD, we have a very stronger relationship with Russia since long time ago and we are regular buyer of Russia. And also we have many military officers who lived in Russia for years and can speak and know well Russian culture. This is main point. U know Actually sending to Belarus and Ukraine is more expensive and also for upgrading in ukraine, Russia dont give any guarantee for that quality of plane. ?

Another good thing is that apart from Russia, there are a lot of commonalities between the major hardwares of Myanmar and India such as MiG 29, Mi 35/24, Mi 27, Su 30, T 72. In this regard Myanmar is getting assistance from India including training and technical support. Myanmar is also getting much needed spare parts from India with friendly price tag.