Bangladesh Air Force

[Philip the Arab]

You’ll be surprised and glad, I can’t tell for now


Rafale will also be deployed in the eastern bases

EFT can take on Su-30MKI, and Rafale while JF-17 takes on Tejas and any other Indian aircraft.

When will you tell us this secret good news?

 

[Michael Corleone]

EFT can take on Su-30MKI, and Rafale while JF-17 takes on Tejas and any other Indian aircraft.

When will you tell us this secret good news?

When the cat will be out of bag I wouldn’t even have to say... but recent visits to UK and China on modernization specific topic should help you guess

 

[bluesky]

But for replacing F-7 variants, JF-17 is the PERFECT choice.

Will you guys stop the word replacing F-7 when IAF and PSAF both have Mig-21 its predecessor? Purchasing a new category of plane does not necessarily mean replacing the older usable ones. BD is not a rich country to afford that.

 

[Avicenna]

Will you guys stop the word replacing F-7 when IAF and PSAF both have Mig-21 its predecessor? Purchasing a new category of plane does not necessarily mean replacing the older usable ones. BD is not a rich country to afford that.

What?

 

[Philip the Arab]

Will you guys stop the word replacing F-7 when IAF and PSAF both have Mig-21 its predecessor? Purchasing a new category of plane does not necessarily mean replacing the older usable ones. BD is not a rich country to afford that.

BD's economy is growing at a high % rate. JF-17 is better than any Mig-21 variant in service now because it is a brand new airframe, with many hours left on plane compared to F-7.

What?

JF-17 could even work at destroying Myanmar, and Indian airbases and strategic targets with C-802AKG land attack cruise missile with terminal TV guidance.

At final 10km journey camera turns on which allows precise targeting.

230 km launched from border of BD can hit these targets.

 

[Sehnsucht]

JF-17 block 3 will be perfect as BAF workhorse if we can't get Gripen or J-10 C.
It's cheap, one of the most capable 4th generation fighters with AESA, ability to use various kinds of AShM,ASM, SOW etc etc.Also, did I mention cheap? Because it's cheap.Which will allow BAF to field about 6 squadron of these fighters no problem.
We can get a few squadron of highly capable jets like EFT to act as the tip of the spear.
Can any of the more knowledgable members here post the specifications of JF-17 Block 3? TIA.

 

[Philip the Arab]

JF-17 block 3 will be perfect as BAF workhorse if we can't get Gripen or J-10 C.
It's cheap, one of the most capable 4th generation fighters with AESA, ability to use various kinds of AShM,ASM, SOW etc etc.Also, did I mention cheap? Because it's cheap.Which will allow BAF to field about 6 squadron of these fighters no problem.
We can get a few squadron of highly capable jets like EFT to act as the tip of the spear.
Can any of the more knowledgable members here post the specifications of JF-17 Block 3? TIA.

I can give you AESA details but true knowledge is scarce and confidential about new features of Block III. AESA will be able to track 15 targets and engage 4 and might even get PL-15 the Chinese equivalent of Meteor and be able to take down any Indian aircraft very easily. It isn't confirmed if India is even getting Meteor yet.
range detection of 170km for a 3 m2 target and 200km for 5 m2. Su-30MKIs RCS is probably 5m2 or higher so detection will be no challenge not factoring in ECCM of Su-30MKI.

Long missile is reportedly PL-15

Type Very long range air-to-air missile
Place of origin People's Republic of China.
Production history
Manufacturer 607 (Air-to-Air Missile Research Institute)[1][2]
Specifications
Engine Pulsed solid-propellant rocket[2]
Operational
range
300+ km or 150 km[3]
Speed Mach 4
Launch
platform
Aircraft

Also, as I said before J-10 is in a different weight class than JF-17 completely and is roughly 1/3 heavier. J-10 is light-medium fighter and JF-17 is very light weight fighter.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I can give you AESA details but true knowledge is scarce and confidential about new features of Block III. AESA will be able to track 15 targets and engage 4 and might even get PL-15 the Chinese equivalent of Meteor and be able to take down any Indian aircraft very easily. It isn't confirmed if India is even getting Meteor yet.
range detection of 170km for a 3 m2 target and 200km for 5 m2. Su-30MKIs RCS is probably 5m2 or higher so detection will be no challenge not factoring in ECCM of Su-30MKI.

Long missile is reportedly PL-15

Type Very long range air-to-air missile
Place of origin People's Republic of China.
Production history
Manufacturer 607 (Air-to-Air Missile Research Institute)[1][2]
Specifications
Engine Pulsed solid-propellant rocket[2]
Operational
range
300+ km or 150 km[3]
Speed Mach 4
Launch
platform
Aircraft

Also, as I said before J-10 is in a different weight class than JF-17 completely and is roughly 1/3 heavier. J-10 is light-medium fighter and JF-17 is very light weight fighter.

Very secretive about this block. Didn’t see a prototype yet

 

[Bengal71]

BAF wants the BEST possible fighter to use against India.

J-10C can take on Rafale better than JF-17 Block 3 can.

Something like Gripen E can be the light-fighter analog to J-10C.

J-10C takes on India and Gripen E takes on Myanmar.

Gripen E with Meteor and Global Eye can take on any aircraft in IAF inventory.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Gripen E with Meteor and Global Eye can take on any aircraft in IAF inventory.

Will BD be allowed Meteor? I wasn't aware that India was getting Meteor for Rafale even.

Very secretive about this block. Didn’t see a prototype yet

They are working hard on it but we already know which AESA radar it is using, and obvious facts like composites, increased weapons capabilities. Those two videos above are pretty true.

 

[Bengal71]

Will BD be allowed Meteor? I wasn't aware that India was getting Meteor for Rafale even.

I don't know. But without meteor no point buying gripen or typhoon.

 

[Philip the Arab]

I don't know. But without meteor no point buying gripen or typhoon.

JF-17 Block 3 may be getting Chinese version of Meteor called PL-15. 150KM+ range.


The long white missile is apparently PL-15s but it could be fake. AESA radar will have very high detection and tracking range and is more than capable of engaging Su-30MKI, and Rafale. This is testbed probably and not actual JF-17 Block 3. PL-15 itself has AESA radar on it, which is better than Meteor without a AESA.

Better image of 4 inside J-20.

 

[Bengal71]

JF-17 Block 3 may be getting Chinese version of Meteor called PL-15. 150KM+ range.


The long white missile is apparently PL-15s but it could be fake. AESA radar will have very high detection and tracking range and is more than capable of engaging Su-30MKI, and Rafale. This is testbed probably and not actual JF-17 Block 3.

Better image of 4 inside J-20.

Pakistan is an unreliable supplier and generally considered backstabbers in BD. There are other alternatives that are as good or superior.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Pakistan is an unreliable supplier and generally considered backstabbers in BD. There are other alternatives that are as good or superior.

Why would Pakistan be involved fully? China could do most of the work on aircraft and supply spare parts and wouldn't put sanctions necessarily. You think West is any better? In a conflict with India they will be pressured to stop supplying spare parts, and weapons to BD or risk cutting economic ties.

 

[Bengal71]

Why would Pakistan be involved fully? China could do most of the work on aircraft and supply spare parts and wouldn't put sanctions necessarily. You think West is any better? In a conflict with India they will be pressured to stop supplying spare parts, and weapons to BD or risk cutting economic ties.

JF-17 does not fit the requirements of BAF mainly because of political reasons. Procuring this aircraft will be a total blunder. JF-17 has all major parts supplied by China and Russia.

In a conflict with Burma that aircraft does not work because

1. Pakistan already supplied JF-17 to Burma.
2. In a conflict with Burma the Chinese will be on the Burmese side and Pakistan will be under huge pressure from the Chinese not to supply BD and Pakistan will bow down to Chinese pressure. Not only that, in national security affairs of BD, Pakistan can not be trusted.

Only scenario when JF-17 will continue to receive support and spares is in a conflict with India. Both China and Pakistan will happily supply BD. But for India a superior aircraft is needed and J-10 fits the bill for that.