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It is widely believed(IN bdmillitary forum/fb group) that we actually ordered 16 migs in 1999 and after receiving the first 8, the newly formed BNP gov decided not to accept the delivery of the remaining 8 migs (some claim that we even had to pay the russians demurrage for not honoring the original agreement of 16 migs ). And these 8 migs were later sold to MM.
Edit: regarding the 'demurrage' BAF supposedly paid to the russains, the fella i was chatting with claimed thay we apparently paid the russians full price of the 8 migs. Im not aure how probable this 'situation' would be, (paying the price of 8 migs but not receiving them)

The above is quite possibly true except for the bold part.

The Russians had a good number of Fulcrums in storage so it is not necessary that they supplied those exact same undelivered units to MM.
Ashiq as usual might have made that bit up to berate MM and minimise the reality of UMAF operating a four times as large a fleet of Fulcrum conpared to BAF.
 
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The above is quite possibly true except for the bold part.

The Russians had a good number of Fulcrums in storage so it is not necessary that they supplied those exact same undelivered units to MM.
Ashiq as usual might have made that bit up to berate MM and minimise the reality of UMAF operating a four times as large a fleet of Fulcrum conpared to BAF.
So we really "donated" $100m to russia? Kinda shocking isn't it. If it really happened under BNP's watch would BAL use it a rallying point against BNP?

On 23 November 2018, Bangladesh Air Guard crashed one more aircraft. This is common trend. You will see that they will blame aircraft, weather and maintenance. They will never acknowledge that poorly trained pilots who barely has few hours on actually aircraft they are supposed to fly.
Plus Bangladeshi pilots do not spend time on simulators. All modern air force pilots spend hundreds of hours on simulators if not thousands hours to practice before doing the real thing.
Add to that Russian and Chinese products are low quality and poor supply of spares and poorly maintained at their home country. Forget about the conditions at export countries.
Egyptian manage to crash brand new MiG-29M2. Again quality over quantity was choosen by Egyptian.
Think a reverse engineered bad aircraft turned into a nightmare for China AKA J-15 AKA Su-33. Chinese should have thought why Russia abandon the Su-33 before reverse engineering Su-33. J-15 crashed randomly.
Russia has limited budget and millions of projects then quality and innovation will suffer. That's what happened with Russian. So far they cancelled Su-57, T-15, Radar project, Aircraft Carrier project, Frigate project, Amphibious Assault Ship, and Submarine projects.
Nuclear missiles and ballistic missiles project chewing most of the money plus the tension with NATO, Ukraine and Georgia. Putin didn't realize that maintaining Crimea is feeding unemployed millions. Russia pays for even fresh water for Crimea.

An export customer suffers for spare, training, support and maintenance. Many examples are Su-30MKM, MiG-29K. Myanmar and India exercise sovereign rights to buy from any vendors and countries. Bangladesh is an exception. Bangladesh stick to Russia, India and China. In return Russia and China screw Bangladesh. This is the reality.
Hi al beruni bhai.
 
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So we really "donated" $100m to russia? Kinda shocking isn't it. If it really happened under BNP's watch would BAL use it a rallying point against BNP?

There is plenty of ways to recover the money if something didnt get delivered as stipulated. The financing mechanism always involves escrow....and besides BD does lot of longer term deals with Russia that it can just transfer any existing over-balance to use in those.
 
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There is plenty of ways to recover the money if something didnt get delivered as stipulated. The financing mechanism always involves escrow....and besides BD does lot of longer term deals with Russia that it can just transfer any existing over-balance to use in those.
Valid point
 
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So we really "donated" $100m to russia? Kinda shocking isn't it. If it really happened under BNP's watch would BAL use it a rallying point against BNP?


Hi al beruni bhai.
Can you write in English? What's that mean?
 
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When are you getting you jf-17 delivery
Today.
First batch of JF 17 commissioned on today.
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One of Bangladeshi said that it takes 4/5 years to deliver fighter jets as it is designed, built and tested once someone place an order.

I couldn't find a thumbs down button here!
 
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One of Bangladeshi said that it takes 4/5 years to deliver fighter jets as it is designed, built and tested once someone place an order.

I couldn't find a thumbs down button here!
He probably meant.. what is called intend to purchase and discussed in forum than actually placing the order. After placing the order it should not take more than a year to start getting the delivery
 
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Ahhhhhh what happened to your classified fighter jet program you wrote at the diplomat. Are you buying F-22 Raptor so it's classified? Why do you care about India, China and Russia? Isn't Bangladesh a sovereign nation or satellite state of India?
Every human has fear, that's what make us human but every human try to overcome the fear and challenges. Looks like Bangladesh has given up on everything because they fear what India would do if Bangladeshi buy fighter jet.
Truth is Bangladeshi pilots no longer fly night mission after Yak and K-8 incidents. Recent accident was at day time and the future accident will be at day times. MAF knows you're vulnerable so they started night mission. Truth is you don't have infrastructure, training facilities, communication facilities to train any pilots. You don't have pilots so you don't buy fighter jets. So you can't tell that in public so it's classified.

Don't bring pathetic story (confirmed and breaking news or fake news) for public to troll you.
BTW I am really enjoying the game where Bangladesh is always behind the game and caught by surprise.
 
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Ahhhhhh what happened to your classified fighter jet program you wrote at the diplomat. Are you buying F-22 Raptor so it's classified? Why do you care about India, China and Russia? Isn't Bangladesh a sovereign nation or satellite state of India?
Every human has fear, that's what make us human but every human try to overcome the fear and challenges. Looks like Bangladesh has given up on everything because they fear what India would do if Bangladeshi buy fighter jet.
Truth is Bangladeshi pilots no longer fly night mission after Yak and K-8 incidents. Recent accident was at day time and the future accident will be at day times. MAF knows you're vulnerable so they started night mission. Truth is you don't have infrastructure, training facilities, communication facilities to train any pilots. You don't have pilots so you don't buy fighter jets. So you can't tell that in public so it's classified.

Don't bring pathetic story (confirmed and breaking news or fake news) for public to troll you.
BTW I am really enjoying the game where Bangladesh is always behind the game and caught by surprise.
yes,yes..we dont "have infrastructure, training facilities, communication facilities to train any pilots".:rofl::rofl:...yes,yes,we got it.....is that gonna let u sleep at night peacefully??:lol::lol:...nd what??"Bangladeshi pilots no longer fly night mission after Yak and K-8 incidents"??!!.....from where did u get this info??from ur rear end just like "we have no long range AAM or towed gun" u claimed before??:lol::lol:...

https://www.mmtimes.com/news/two-f-7-fighter-jets-crash-magwe-killing-pilots-young-girl.html

nd dont worry about our fighter porecurement pgrm..it will see daylight in due time...now go write a webpress article about baf...or how to destroy ctg port ...:lol::lol:....personally,i feel bad for u now..:sad::sad:..

@The Ronin
 
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