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Exactly.... and I don't think there is any imminent attack from Myanmar anytime soon...
let's dismantle the air force then?......

BAF is very slow off the mark..... they should get on with it. Atleast BD needs to accelerate missile production and deployment.
well, inaction can hardly be justified by the term "slow".....
missile production "acceleration" is one thing, and getting aircraft on an emergency basis is another.....
I just am not in favour of some influential media in Bangladesh who say that Bangladesh doesn't need a military to scare Myanmar, rather Bangladesh should beg to the Western powers to scare Myanmar.....

playing others' game will never get us anywhere, to be honest...... their game IS wasting time.....
 
My little suggestion for BAF! Besides J20 and J31, J10B/C= the best that China could offer to BAF with 1Billion credit/Soft loan.

But I don't know what's going on right now. @UKBengali

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Nor do I.

The negotiations with Russia for the SU-30SMEs seemed to have hit a sticking point and so this may be the reason of the delay in purchase of J-10B. However I cannot see a reason why BD cannot negotiate with both Russia and China for aircraft at the same time. The chance of getting 16 J-10b, 1 Y-20, 1 KJ-200 and 7 K-8Ws for only 1 billion US dollar and with soft loans is too good an opportunity to miss out on.
 
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New Defense BD Channel
Published on Nov 17, 2017
Bangladesh Air Force’s Bangabandhu Aeronautical Center (BAC) is the country’s first of its kind. This is a Bangladesh Ministry of Defense-owned aerospace defense security and advanced technology venture mainly focusing on avionics, aviation, and high-tech electronics. BAC poised to build modern fighter jets in Bangladesh within next decade.

BAC’s work domain includes aircraft design, development & manufacturing, and producing avionics systems for country’s armed forces.

Manufacture and maintenance of radar, unmanned aerial vehicle and other defense systems for Bangladesh Army & Bangladesh Navy. It also performs maintenance and overhauling of the civil-military airplanes. There are strict restriction of exporting any product, technology or services to any foreign party.

Bangladesh Air Force is operating and managing all the activities of this aviation industry. BAC is going to make operational an F-7 overhaul plant for BAF’s F-BG+F-7BGI fleet upgradation. Unmanned aerial vehicles will be built in BAC soon. An advanced 4.5th generation fighter jet development/manufacturing program has been planned to be done in BAC.

Other allied aviation products like fighter jet spares, civil airplane’s parts, aerial munitions, aviation electronics, ground based radar systems etc. also are the products of BAC.
 
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New Defense BD Channel
Published on Nov 17, 2017
Bangladesh Air Force’s Bangabandhu Aeronautical Center (BAC) is the country’s first of its kind. This is a Bangladesh Ministry of Defense-owned aerospace defense security and advanced technology venture mainly focusing on avionics, aviation, and high-tech electronics. BAC poised to build modern fighter jets in Bangladesh within next decade.

BAC’s work domain includes aircraft design, development & manufacturing, and producing avionics systems for country’s armed forces.

Manufacture and maintenance of radar, unmanned aerial vehicle and other defense systems for Bangladesh Army & Bangladesh Navy. It also performs maintenance and overhauling of the civil-military airplanes. There are strict restriction of exporting any product, technology or services to any foreign party.

Bangladesh Air Force is operating and managing all the activities of this aviation industry. BAC is going to make operational an F-7 overhaul plant for BAF’s F-BG+F-7BGI fleet upgradation. Unmanned aerial vehicles will be built in BAC soon. An advanced 4.5th generation fighter jet development/manufacturing program has been planned to be done in BAC.

Other allied aviation products like fighter jet spares, civil airplane’s parts, aerial munitions, aviation electronics, ground based radar systems etc. also are the products of BAC.
So it is confirmed that mig35 is coming?Cause we got tot offered for that.
 
fuk! We should go for gripen e. Efficient and reliable...

MiGs and Sukhois does have superb aerodynamics and rugged constructions. But, I think Russian electronics are not as good as their Western counterparts!

In this age, electronics matters most. Our think tanks should know that...
 
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fuk! We should go for gripen e. Efficient and reliable...

MiGs and Sukhois does have superb aerodynamics and rugged constructions. But, I think Russian electronics are not as good as their Western counterparts!

In this age, electronics matters most. Our think tanks should know that...
Money talks.
 
fuk! We should go for gripen e. Efficient and reliable...

MiGs and Sukhois does have superb aerodynamics and rugged constructions. But, I think Russian electronics are not as good as their Western counterparts!

In this age, electronics matters most. Our think tanks should know that...

BD should go for something like the Malaysian SU-30MKM. It has a mixture of Russian, French and S African
electronics.
 
BD should go for something like the Malaysian SU-30MKM. It has a mixture of Russian, French and S African
electronics.
Sorry, we should try to do business with them, who are with our interest, not against.

Thats how you build strong friendship...
 
BD should go for something like the Malaysian SU-30MKM. It has a mixture of Russian, French and S African
electronics.
IF Russia is willing to give us assembly line, then this is very much doable. A MIG 35 with mix capability to use both western and Russian armaments and electronics will be game changer for BD.


Sorry, we should try to do business with them, who are with our interest, not against.

Thats how you build strong friendship...
There is no permanent friend or foe when it comes to geo politics. France has always been a good international arms supplier ,they supplied us Fuga Majister & A2A missiles previously. If approached I don't see any reason for them not to sell. And it will be good for BD.

South Africa has some decent and cheap options for BD. If played the right card we can get TOT and Joint Production from them cheaply compared to other countries.

And these two were never against us. I don't see why we shouldn't start formal cooperation with them. In the long run our allies lies within the MENA block. We shall tread our cards very carefully.

China isn't any friend of BD. We do business and that's it. Same goes for Russia. Always keep in mind, Countries like China & Russia is no ones friend. They won't hesitate to abandon you just like now.
 
There is no permanent friend or foe when it comes to geo politics. France has always been a good international arms supplier ,they supplied us Fuga Majister & A2A missiles previously. If approached I don't see any reason for them not to sell. And it will be good for BD.

South Africa has some decent and cheap options for BD. If played the right card we can get TOT and Joint Production from them cheaply compared to other countries.

And these two were never against us. I don't see why we shouldn't start formal cooperation with them. In the long run our allies lies within the MENA block. We shall tread our cards very carefully.

China isn't any friend of BD. We do business and that's it. Same goes for Russia. Always keep in mind, Countries like China & Russia is no ones friend. They won't hesitate to abandon you just like now.
Well, politically and diplomatically friendship means interest. If you dont offer any benefit other party will abandon you...

I do agree with your above comment...
 
Gaining an advantage in the sky
Raihan Al-Beruni
Published at 04:39 PM November 20, 2017
Last updated at 10:56 PM November 20, 2017
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Russian MiG fighters have been in the market for decades BIGSTOCK
Russian MiG fighter jets have been in the market for many decades, and are known as among the cheapest options for any air force.
A historical view of MiG

The new MiG-35 and its legacy MiG-29 have their baggage, and few success stories in any air warfare around the world from the Korean War to the Gulf War.

It was the Dassault Mirage jet which saved the Indian Air Force in the Kargil conflict, not the MiG. Although IAF has an extensive inventory of MiGs, the Kargil success was one of the driving factors for IAF to select Dassault Rafale.
The modern 4.5 generation fighter
A modern fighter jet must offer technological and informational advantages over the enemy aircraft to be able to defend the skies successfully. This critical factor has to lead the development of an intermediate 4.5 generation fighter jet before bringing the fifth-generation fighter jet.

A 4.5 generation fighter jet must have an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar and reduced radar cross (RCS). If the MiG is compared with its counterparts like Gripen NG or F/A-18E/F, then obviously the MiGs lack an advanced radar and reduced RCS.

Almost all Russian fighter jets are manufactured with speed and agility in mind rather than avionics, radar, and RCS, including the recently developed Sukhoi-57.
A comparison with its European counterpart
The Zhuk-ME radar of MiG-35 is an X band radar manufactured by the Phazotron NIIR Corporation. According to an independent military think tank, Zhuk radar has +- 70 degree oblique view, not a Wide Field of Regard.

The radar uses multiple four channel transceiver modules generating an output of 5 watts per channel, installed on a liquid-cooled base plate to dissipate the generated heat. If a specific transceiver is overheated, it will be switched off by the radar computer until it cools down.

The Raven AESA radar of Gripen NG is an X band Active Electronically Scan Array (AESA) radar manufactured by Leonardo airborne and space systems. According to the manufacturer’s specification, the Raven radar provides plus/minus 100 degree wide field of regard.

The radar makes use of AESA alert-confirm techniques to confirm targets for the first detection. This combined with optimised AESA waveforms results in increased track initiation ranges, while simultaneously maintaining situational awareness.

This is combined with the full capabilities of a detection, tracking, and prosecution system to meet the needs of emerging threats.

The APG-79 radar of F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is also an AESA radar. According to manufacturer’s specifications, the APG-79 radar of the Super Hornet is optimised situational awareness and provides superior air-to-air and air-to-surface capability.

The agile beam enables the multimode radar to interleave in near-real time, so that pilot and crew can use both modes simultaneously. The manufacturer claims that the APG-79 AESA radar is built on solid-state transmit and receive modules to virtually eliminate any mechanical breakdown.

In short, if I translate this technical jargon into non-technical language, then the Zhuk-ME radar of MiG-35 can be compared with a visually impaired person, the APG-79 radar of Super Hornet with a person with excellent vision, and the Raven radar of Gripen to that of a person with perfect vision.
The MiG-35 RCS
The primary measure of stealth aircraft is the low observability (LO), also known as the radar cross section (RCS) of the target, whether this is an aircraft, missiles, or ships.
How does it work?
The radar pulse goes out from the transmitter, hits the target, and bounces back.

The radar receiver measures the energy in the return signal in decibel (dB) units, but that is a hard way for normal people to visualise the size of a target. So, you can convert the decibel to square metres to get the picture. So, for an aircraft with an RCS of 5 dB, it would be 3.16 square metres.

The RCS of an aircraft depends on its characteristics, the orientation of the target to the radar source. Many aircrafts will have a smaller frontal RCS, but bigger rear and side RCS.

Also, some fighter jets have their largest RCS from the side and the rear, due to the exhaust nozzles. Moreover, RCS depends on the wavelength of the radar signal and how far away the target is. The lower the RCS value, the less possible that the conventional radar will detect the aircraft from a distance.

According to military think tank mil-embedded.com, the Russian 4++ generation MiG-35 has an RCS of 15 square metres and 4.5 generation Su-35 has an RCS of 3 square metres.

The 4.5 generation F/A-18E/F Super Hornet fighter jet has an RCS of 1 square metre. The next generation Gripen incorporated stealth designs into its basic structure without compromising performance. Hence, the Gripen ended up with such a low RCS of only 0.1 square metres.

If BAF procures MiGs again, Bangladesh will end up spending hard-earned billions to achieve no technological and strategic advantage over any regional air force

The Gripen is a small fighter jet with low RCS, but computer modelling was used to optimise areas such as the curves of the aircraft and the engine intakes along with their inlet tubes to deflect radar waves. Special Radar Absorbing Materials (RAM) were also used in critical areas enabling the Gripen to lower its RCS even further and giving it an excellent advantage against radar.

To understand RCS in plain English, an average man has an RCS of about 1 square metre and a bird has an RCS of about 0.1 square metres.The challenge of a surface-to-air missile or air-to-air missile to shoot down a Gripen NG with RCS of about 0.1 square metres is like shooting down a bird flying at the speed of sound. For MiG-35 with an RCS of about 15 square metres, it is like shooting down a bus flying at the speed of sound.
The sales tactics
As of now, no details are available publicly about ToT from either Rosoboronexport or BAF.
I doubt that Rosoboronexport is genuinely offering transfer of any vital technology to Bangladesh.
It is the standard sales tactics worked in the past 50 years towards India, but China is an exception.


China received large-scale assistance from the Soviet Union during The Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Alliance, and Mutual Assistance.

Due to massive industrialisation, China is able to reproduce Soviet-made weapons domestically.

The Russian sales tactics led to the Indian Air Force dearly having no spare parts for its Sukhoi fleet, and an abundance of fighter jets are resting under the Indian hanger.
The Bangladeshi point of view
As for Bangladeshi MRCA deals, Russia will behave the same way they did with India and Iran.
Once the sales are over, Russia will withdraw the support and supplies of spare parts. Bangladesh’s previous MiG deal was a dud, and until recently, those MiGs were stored under the hanger.


If BAF procures MiGs again, Bangladesh will end up spending hard-earned billions to achieve no technological and strategic advantage over any regional air force.

The BAF should ask one question: Are they offering free target drones as MiG-35 to Myanmar Air Force?
Raihan Al-Beruni is a contractor and analyst for a global defense and security supplier based in Australia.
http://www.dhakatribune.com/uncategorized/2017/11/20/gaining-advantage-sky/
 
Mig-35 should be out of question.
If they need genuine TOT then they should start from trainer aircraft. Then gradually go up and participate in joint development with Korea or Turkey.
Russia will not under any circumstances let us master the skill of aircraft building. Its just a ploy. We will become a crippled air force.
 
Mig-35 should be out of question.
If they need genuine TOT then they should start from trainer aircraft. Then gradually go up and participate in joint development with Korea or Turkey.
Russia will not under any circumstances let us master the skill of aircraft building. Its just a ploy. We will become a crippled air force.
This might become a tejas 2.0.
It takes time to develop all this,can’t just jump around.
 
So Brazil is recieving complete TOT gor 36 gripen............also with a local assembly of /production of 12 aircraft out of 36....so why can't we go for such deal.....even limited scale assembly facility would be great for our af...the hefty price tag is an issue but in the long term it would be a good value for money...and we should never compromise on our defense... if we can not induct in nimbers we can induct at a rate of 4 aircraft per year...we can start with C/D variant...on later stage we can go for newer/ advanced variants......

A fourth test aircraft is being built for Brazil, one of 28 Gripen NG single-seaters for the nation, which is also to acquire eight two-seaters. Embraer and Saab are creating production and test facilities in Brazil,

which is seen as ultimately having a requirement for around 100 aircraft. Saab has also proposed the Gripen for local production in India.
 

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