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‘Baloch separatists willing to talk peace’

Problem is.. the terrorizing the terror units is creating more enemies within the local populous.
So while terrorizing we may end up with another people's BLA. Although population and ethnic disparities may not allow them to achieve succession.. returning to the status quo will also be a lost option.
One can then throw the idea of a reintegrated Balochistan out the door.. unless the Pukhtoon population is enhanced.. and made to spread.

The Balochis grievances must be addressed on a grass roots level.. instead of dealing with sardar's.
A clothed, fed and educated man is happy and will not fall for nationalistic ideals so long as his needs are met.

Could not agree more, it's just our esteemed judges refusing to jail the takfiri or any other terrorists
 
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I think we (Pakistan govt) should grab this opportunity of possible talks with both hands. It is the best thing that can possibly happen to Pakistan. It will help us to bring our brothers in fold, it will help us to neutralize the CIA/RAW/MOSSAD plans, it will help to bring peace in the largest province of Pakistan, it will ensure that Balochis have a say in the matters of the country and they will start to own it. It help us to solve the problem of Gwader and open a corridor of economic uplift of the country by opening trade route for china and central asia.
 
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Interesting this comes few days after separatists in Assam were willing for talks , maybe be South Asia is getting more peaceful good fro Pakistan and region.
 
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the Sardari System is centuries old...its their way of life, since from the beginning Balouchistan was not treated well...and musharraf did the most damage in recent years not only by killing their leaders and humiliating but also by holding up royalty of the natural resources rest of the country enjoyed from Balochistan...

however, as I said Zardari is playing really well, he introduced reforms in Gilgit Baltistan, Kashmir, FATA and now Balochistan... and Yes played very well in Sindh through Zulfiqar mirza... anyone likes it or not, he is very dangerous and ambitious...

you see that is the reason why i dont like army to rule country, i dont like zardari either but that is good thing that he has done though.
 
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there must be an active plan for new balochistan, implemet the law and punish even the soldiers who are involved in torturing and killing the balochis, there must be concrete steps other wise these people will join insurgents again
 
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you see that is the reason why i dont like army to rule country, i dont like zardari either but that is good thing that he has done though.

EXACTLY my Friend.... this is what these pro-military minds dont understand... political or whatever maybe the reasons, Zardari did make the right move...



simple win-win strategy; Accommodate !!
 
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I have read some books about balochs..the thing i have noted about them is that they brave people and independant people and they love and obey their sardar .Also they are not religous people like pashtuns and are inclined strongely towards ethno-centric nationalism.
British adopted the policy "rule punjabis, intimidate sindhis, buy pashtun and honour baloch" to rule over people in present day areas of pakistan. So it is very wrong to humiliate them, they are proud people. So in my opinion while dealing with balochs, governament should'nt mess with their tribal and sardari system and baloch values should be honoured.
 
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I have read some books about balochs..the thing i have noted about them is that they brave people and independant people and they love and obey their sardar .Also they are not religous people like pashtuns and are inclined strongely towards ethno-centric nationalism.
British adopted the policy "rule punjabis, intimidate sindhis, buy pashtun and honour baloch" to rule over people in present day areas of pakistan. So it is very wrong to humiliate them, they are proud people. So in my opinion while dealing with balochs, governament should'nt mess with their tribal and sardari system and baloch values should be honoured.

Your analysis is correct, however let me point out that it is the 21 century .....

Baloch PEOPLE must be respected, and by virtue of that RESPECT they must be set free from old Feudal Sardari system.

Moreover Feudal from all over Pakistan should be cleaned, just like Baluchistan.
 
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Your analysis is correct, however let me point out that it is the 21 century .....

Baloch PEOPLE must be respected, and by virtue of that RESPECT they must be set free from old Feudal Sardari system.

Moreover Feudal from all over Pakistan should be cleaned, just like Baluchistan.
You are right sardari system is hindrance in their development but non-balochs should'nt interfare in their affairs, it would makes the issue more complicated as they are sensitive about it . If i am correct this baloch insurgency has started after musharaf killed bugti, one of their sardar. So Its upto balochs themselves to throw off sardari system.
 
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You are right sardari system is hindrance in their development but non-balochs should'nt interfare in their affairs, it would makes the issue more complicated as they are sensitive about it . If i am correct this baloch insurgency has started after musharaf killed bugti, one of their sardar. So Its upto balochs themselves to throw off sardari system.

if thats the case, the pashtuns shouldnt bother the sindh in karachi, and that for balochis too

and there would be no pakistan

MDL you are not a real pakistani

no body is interfering or bothering, some balochis want to follow their sardars and halt all development, these sardars make them slaves, sardri system even the chaudry system must be directly interfered from the state so that balochis become normal pakistanis
 
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if thats the case, the pashtuns shouldnt bother the sindh in karachi, and that for balochis too

and there would be no pakistan

MDL you are not a real pakistani

no body is interfering or bothering, some balochis want to follow their sardars and halt all development, these sardars make them slaves, sardri system even the chaudry system must be directly interfered from the state so that balochis become normal pakistanis
Dude think about the last sentence of your post again that i have bolded. You want to say indirectly say that balochs are not normal pakistanis and they need to be pakistanized? What exactly is your normal pakistani?
I have many baloch friends, they are very educated still they love their sardars. Like i said its upto balochs to throw off sardari system.
You have given example of pashtuns bothering you people in karachi. Tell me brother have pashtuns ever dictate urduspeakers to change their culture and lifestyle?
In similar pashtuns wont like it if they are told to abolish pashtunwali, jirga and burqa.
 
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Insurgents want to join national politics: Lashkari

QUETTA: PPP Senator Nawabzada Lashkari Raisani, who is the younger brother of Balochistan Chief Minister Nawab Aslam Raisani, said on Monday that Baloch insurgents had contacted him and they wanted to peacefully join the mainstream politics.

“Baloch insurgents have established contacts with me and they have expressed their desire to peacefully join the mainstream politics,” he said.

He said he had informed the prime minister about his contact with the insurgents, adding he could take further initiative after receiving a reply from the premier.

He said that old policies about Balochistan were still being pursued and if the situation did not change, he could also think of going to the mountains like others. He said judiciary should also play its role to protect democracy and national integrity.

Mr Raisani criticised the role of Interior Minister Rahman Malik and said that anti-Pakistan forces would be encouraged if the government did not take notice of allegations levelled by Dr Zulfikar Mirza against him.

He claimed that Mr Malik had always sabotaged efforts made to normalise the situation in Balochistan. He said Mr Malik talked about reconciliation in Karachi, but hurled threats of using “danda” in Balochistan and this aroused suspicions about his role.

He demanded that elements who wanted to dismember Pakistan should be tried under Article 6 of the Constitution

Insurgents want to join national politics: Lashkari | Newspaper | DAWN.COM
 
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Balochistan is being brought back into the fold exactly as was done with Sindh in the 80s. Allow that community to nationalize themselves. Take them into the armed forces, construct cadet colleges, carry out developmental projects. People will come to their senses. It's step two now. Let the diplomacy begin!
 
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Balochistan is being brought back into the fold exactly as was done with Sindh in the 80s. Allow that community to nationalize themselves. Take them into the armed forces, construct cadet colleges, carry out developmental projects. People will come to their senses. It's step two now. Let the diplomacy begin!

and most importantly, to participate in National politics...
 
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That is the power of local leadership versus american imperialism enforced dictatorship like that of Mushraff and Zia! I have started to think of Mushraff as the brother of Altaf Hussien!

This is another victory for Zardari, he is not appearing that bad as media precieve him to be.

Today, we received a batch of 50 labors all of them from interior sindh, they are giving out big big praises in favor of sayi Zardari.

Baluchis taking part in national politics means end of sardari and brutal don figures like Akbar Bugti. The baluch were praying namaz e shukrana on his death.
 
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