Ballistic missile submarine don't need to be nuclear powered. PNS could build one

[Ultima Thule]

A conventional sub weight is in several 100 to few 1000 tons so four bm there additional carriage weight won't amount more then few 100 tons in limit of sub
Only issue is range and deployment time but u don't make ssbn to go into enemy waters it's to launch bm from a safe distance what's more safe then our own warers where our air Force and navy would be providing cover nuclear has deployment time of years conventional of months even that's good enough we can make several if em at cost of single ssbn so few conventional would always be deployed on duty for dew months then replaced by other instead of single nuclear deployed for much longer time period
And what pressure issue already told u that's rockets never fired inside hull even in nuclear ssbn

we are facing 3 times bigger enemy than ourself to defend with so there is/will a less chance to defend those subs by our AF/Navy, so PN need a SSBN to fired those BM from sea from stand off range from IN defense range like mid indian ocean or near the cost from Singapore


As for stress/pressure diesel engine on those subs can't sustain a load of those 4 BM, you need extensions for those modified subs to fit missiles silos and related equipment hence need a bigger diesel engine so why not we could build compact miniature nuclear reactor for our subs which is more balance design than conventionally enlarge SSK with BM wihch is/will more unbalance/immature design @khanmubashir

 

[randomradio]

Pakistan already makes towed array, hull mounted, and active towed array sonars. Most European systems are refurbished in-house. We just don't advertise it.

Such an argument will be valid if you actually deploy these "indigenous" sonars. Even your F-22P have a European imported sonar. If you make something worthwhile that you own the IP for, you will advertise it.

We have access to name-what-you-want European sonar for our ships and subs, we don't use any of those.

You take TUSM Sonars because rest of your kit does not work. Kilos have Indian sonar, which is just US ceramic and British amplifiers, and indian assembly, because Indian sonar is less pathetic than russian sonar.

Funny thing: We only operate our own sonars. So I suppose your undersea fleet will be invincible then, since none of our sonars apparently work.

While it's true that the Russian sonar on the Kilo is pathetic (by our standards), the same thing they offered to upgrade our Kilos with is operational in the PLAN. Even Vietnam and Indonesia are fine with it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahom...S-Crew-vessels-asked-hunt-naval-exercise.html

 

[amardeep mishra]

Pakistan already makes towed array, hull mounted, and active towed array sonars.

Hi @Bilal Khan 777
You dont feed a troll with another troll. Now care to shed evidence for the same or like everything else, asking for evidence makes me a Pakistan basher? Either way furnish evidence for the same. If you can credibly show that any of the sonars were "actually" designed in Pakistan, we would be great. Secondly how many of such sonars have actually passed the trials of PN and inducted into the services?
To be brutally honest, all Pakistani industries are capable of at the moment are- refurbishment of US/EU sonars. They simply dont have the requisite expertise to design sonars. Now please feel free to correct me based on credible engineering evidences and not cliched rhetoric or troll.

Kilos have Indian sonar, which is just US ceramic and British amplifiers, and indian assembly, because Indian sonar is less pathetic than russian sonar.

Thats not entirely accurate, shall we get deeper into sub-systems? Are you up for a fair facts and evidence based discussion on the same?

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Yaar log is chutye ko serious hi kiyun laitai hain PDF par samajh nahi aata

I heard he is an ex GDP no wonder why IAF is in such sorry state
they should really work to improve their selection process

 

[khanmubashir]

we are facing 3 times bigger enemy than ourself to defend with so there is/will a less chance to defend those subs by our AF/Navy, so PN need a SSBN to fired those BM from sea from stand off range from IN defense range like mid indian ocean or near the cost from Singapore


As for stress/pressure diesel engine on those subs can't sustain a load of those 4 BM, you need extensions for those modified subs to fit missiles silos and related equipment hence need a bigger diesel engine so why not we could build compact miniature nuclear reactor for our subs which is more balance design than conventionally enlarge SSK with BM wihch is/will more unbalance/immature design @khanmubashir

Making or getting a larger Diesel electric power unit(s) would be easier and cheaper then making compact reactor and necessary shielding and be very hard for Chinese to give this to us as under nsg it's offensive nuclear capability
And diesel electric subs with APS can also go for months of petrol that's 1000s of km' of range