Ballistic missile “Dhanush” test fired

[BlueDot_in_Space]

We already have high explosive warheads, cluster munitions and BCES warhead for prithvi.

 

[shaktiman2010]

did I say over expensive? Did I even use the words R&D? Let me break this down for you. I said that the dhanush programme, which was intended to be India's Ship launched ballistic missile is going to end up as an expensive tech demonstrator.

Firstly, there is nothing like "cheap" or "expensive" about R&D projects. No R&D project is supposed to generate profits. The goal is to learn and take experience, for future projects. Dhanush experience has helped DRDO mature concepts of future ABM & allied defence systems.

Attributing an adjective like "expensive" with Defence R&D projects is a pure attempt to bash DRDO & an attempt to overlook the purpose of R&D.

I've seen your posts. And I know you don't have much tech know how.

Such accusations doesn't add any credibility to your claims of Dhanush being over-expensive. Provide a source, before shouting baseless claims off your mouth.

 

[Whiplash]

Dhanush, naval surface-to-surface missile, test fired successfullynews
31 March 2007
Balasore: After a few postponements, Indian missile scientists have successfully test-fired the indigenously developed Dhanush missile, a naval, nuclear-capable, version of the Prithvi short-range ballistic missile. The test was carried out in the Bay of Bengal, off the coast of Orissa, on Friday, according to defence sources.

'The missile was test fired in the Bay of Bengal from INS Rajput that was positioned nearly 60 km from the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur at around 2.30 p.m.," defence sources said.

Developed under the Integrated Guided Missile Programme (IGMP) by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), Dhanush reportedly has a 250-km range and can carry a single warhead weighing up to 750 kg.

However, there is no authoritative technical data available about the Dhanush.

It is widely acknowledged to be a version of the already inducted Prithvi surface-to-surface missile system, though there is confusion if it resembles the Prithvi-II or is in fact the Prithvi-III. There is also a debate about the technology that the Dhanush incorporates - if it is a continuation of the Prithvi series or brings in different technologies given its naval profile. It is also not confirmed whether the Dhanush can be deployed only onboard ships or is also capable of submarine deployment.

The range apparently varies between 250-350km, depending on the size of the warhead it carries.

Reportedly, the missile's warheads are nuclear, high explosive, or sub-munitions. It can also be equipped with multiple payloads, to be dispensed by the missile during its flight. The use of high-explosive and sub-munition warhead would enable the Dhanush to be used against airfields, manufacturing complexes, and military units, as well as enemy ships.

Reportedly the missile weighs between 4,000 and 4,600 kg and uses a single-stage, liquid-propellant engine. It is also stated in some quarters that the missile has an accuracy of 50m CEP (circular error probability).

The Dhanush ship-launched version was first tested in April 2000.

The test of Dhanush comes on the back of earlier tests of the indigenous air-to-air missile Astra from the Chandipur test range on March 25, 26 and 29.

domain-b.com : Dhanush, naval surface-to-surface missile, test fired successfully

can u show a source from where u got ur info on dhanush....
and don't act like a retard by calling others....

So you quote some sort of a source called 'domain-d'?
I get my info from the literally thousands of articles available on the prithvi series. Read up.
Do you people even realise what it means to be able to hit a moving ship? It's not a game of goti. Like kinetic said, it is possible if we were to add an active radar seeker. But the current dhanush is not an ASBM. And you not believing me is not going to change that

Buddy, it may not be possible to use it as a precision weapon, but can be used to obliteration weapon to destroy an armada of ships over a large area by using high explosive warheads or cluster munition warheads designed for prithvi or to deny access to a particular sea area. Can come handy.

I agree. It could. But does that make it an ASBM my friend?

 

[Markus]

^ Yes, Dhanush cannot be used as an ASBM.

When the article said that DHanush can be used for shore-based targets, it referred to enemy oil rigs or other infrastructure, it does not refer to fast moving enemy ships.

 

[GORKHALI]

@ whiplash read my above post mate,why dhanush could be SR ASBM .... You will get an idea what am talking about.. Every body plz calm down . Remember we are on same side

 

[Whiplash]

@ whiplash read my above post mate,why dhanush could be SR ASBM .... You will get an idea what am talking about.. Every body plz calm down . Remember we are on same side

it has a very high level of accuracy I agree.. But I'm sure you know thats not enough to hit a moving ship. We're going to need terminal stage guidance! And That's not there on any missile in the prithvi series. I respect you guys' opinion. But these fanboys quoting stuff out of their dreams is pissing off

 

[Whiplash]

Firstly, there is nothing like "cheap" or "expensive" about R&D projects. No R&D project is supposed to generate profits. The goal is to learn and take experience, for future projects. Dhanush experience has helped DRDO mature concepts of future ABM & allied defence systems.

The dhanush experience has helped us develop ABM? Please sir.. Elaborate.

Attributing an adjective like "expensive" with Defence R&D projects is a pure attempt to bash DRDO & an attempt to overlook the purpose of R&D.

I was not bashing DRDO. You take it whatever way you want.

Such accusations doesn't add any credibility to your claims of Dhanush being over-expensive. Provide a source, before shouting baseless claims off your mouth.

Source to what? The dhanush being a tech demonstrator? Has it been inducted? No. Is it on any ships? No. You want it to come with 'Tech demonstrator' written on its tail fins to your house?

 

[Kinetic]

Reportedly, the missile's warheads are nuclear, high explosive, or sub-munitions. It can also be equipped with multiple payloads, to be dispensed by the missile during its flight. The use of high-explosive and sub-munition warhead would enable the Dhanush to be used against airfields, manufacturing complexes, and military units, as well as enemy ships.

Thats clear the doubt.





In an exercise to further sharpen its missile teeth, India today successfully test-fired two indigenously developed, nuclear capable ballistic missiles, both having a strike range of 350 kms, from separate locations off the Orissa coast.

While ‘Dhanush’ was flight tested from a naval ship in the Bay of Bengal at a spot between Paradip and Puri at 1005 hours, ‘Prithvi-II’ surface-to-surface ballistic missile was test-fired at around 11 hours from a mobile launcherat launch complex-3 of the Integrated Test Range (ITR) at Chandipur, 15 km from here.

“It was a fantastic launch. Both the missions, carried out from different locations off Orissa coast, were fully successful,” ITR Director S P Dash told PTI.

“Both the missiles are under production after successful completion of developmental trials and have been inducted into the Armed Forces,” said a scientist of Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO), maintaining that the launches this morning were “part of regular training exercise“.

“The trajectory of both the missiles, with advanced navigation and guidance systems, were monitored by a widespread tracking network consisting of radars, telemetry and electro-optical systems spread over land and sea,” he said.

A similar training exercise, comprising both Dhanush and Prithvi-II were successfully conducted in a “salvo mode” off Orissa coast on March 27, 2010.

Dhanush, which is also known as the naval version of Prithvi, is a liquid-propellant single-stage missile. It has a pay load capacity of 500 kg and capable of carrying both nuclear as well as conventional warheads. The missile can hit both sea and shore-based targets with pin-point accuracy.

It is 10 metres long, one metre in diameter and weighs six tonnes.

Referring to Prithvi-II, a DRDO scientist said the test firing of the surface-to-surface missile, which has already been inducted into Armed Forces, was a routine trial conducted by the personnel of Strategic Force Command (SFC).

“The trial was conducted in the presence of senior officials as part of routine training exercises,” sources said.

Prithvi, the first missile developed under India’s prestigious Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP), has proved its robustness and accuracy repeatedly during many trials earlier since the first trial conducted in 1988.

Prithvi missiles, equipped with sophisticated guidance systems, have reached the specified targets with very high degree of accuracy during its earlier launches.

“Randomly picked up from routine production lot during earlier user’s trial by the Army, the surface-to-surface missile has achieved single-digit accuracy reaching close to zero circular error probability (CEP),” said a defence source.

With a length of nine metres and a diameter of one meter, Prithvi-II uses an advanced inertial navigation system with ability to manoeuvre trajectory.

The missile having the features to deceive anti-ballistic missile systems, is powered by two liquid propellant engines and can carry a warhead of 500 kgs

The Hindu : News / National : Prithvi-II, Dhanush test-fired successfully

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

OK just few thoughts...

For a ASBM the capabilities required are 1) Highly maneuverable ballistic missile 2) tracking network consisting of space based sattelites, UAVs and radars that can provide real time targeting information.

lets check whether we have these systems or something close to these capabilities.

1) Do we have Highly maneuverable ballistic missile?????
Yes. Prithvi Air Defence (PAD) is highly maneuverable missile developed to intercept incoming ballistic missiles and is based on the Prithvi missile.
Dhanush is naval version of Prithvi. So, we can safely conclude that we can have a NAVAL version of PAD.

2) Do we have a tracking network consisting of space based sattelites, UAVs and radars that can provide real time targeting information???

Yes. We have that in the form of BMD system. The Question is can we use this system to track ships?? I think radars cannot be used to track ships in the sea. But UAVs and satellite can be used to track ships. I am not aware of any satellite that India has that can track a ship over indian ocean at all the times. SO i am not sure about the tracking part.

So we have half the capability and the tracking part is missing.

 

[GORKHALI]

it has a very high level of accuracy I agree.. But I'm sure you know thats not enough to hit a moving ship. We're going to need terminal stage guidance! And That's not there on any missile in the prithvi series. I respect you guys' opinion. But these fanboys quoting stuff out of their dreams is pissing off

I said it could be because dhanush is a further development of prithvi 2 and also much more evolved in terms of navigation guidance and stablity compare to prithvi 3 . So you just never know

 

[Markus]

^ Radar horizon is the answer.

 

[Aramsogo]

One thing that US and rest of the world do not have is a ballistic missile on a boat. India is the only country trying to create a ship launched, liquid fueled missile. Who can say that Indians are not innovative?

A submarine is a boat. US and Soviets have had ballistic missile submarines since the 60's, China since the 80's. Why you would put it on a surface ship, only the Indians know. You could launch the space shuttle from the deck of an aircraft carrier too, but why would you?

 

[Whiplash]

OK just few thoughts...

For a ASBM the capabilities required are 1) Highly maneuverable ballistic missile 2) tracking network consisting of space based sattelites, UAVs and radars that can provide real time targeting information.

lets check whether we have these systems or something close to these capabilities.

1) Do we have Highly maneuverable ballistic missile?????
Yes. Prithvi Air Defence (PAD) is highly maneuverable missile developed to intercept incoming ballistic missiles and is based on the Prithvi missile.
Dhanush is naval version of Prithvi. So, we can safely conclude that we can have a NAVAL version of PAD.

2) Do we have a tracking network consisting of space based sattelites, UAVs and radars that can provide real time targeting information???

Yes. We have that in the form of BMD system. The Question is can we use this system to track ships?? I think radars cannot be used to track ships in the sea. But UAVs and satellite can be used to track ships. I am not aware of any satellite that India has that can track a ship over indian ocean at all the times. SO i am not sure about the tracking part.

So we have half the capability and the tracking part is missing.

We don't have to have satellites. A good OTH radar grid is enough. On on the east should do. We don't need one for Pakistani ships

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

^ Radar horizon is the answer.

Yup. But i think we cannot use radars to track ship. We need dedicated satellites in geo orbits for that and also the UAVS.

 

[Whiplash]

Yup. But i think we cannot use radars to track ship. We need dedicated satellites in geo orbits for that and also the UAVS.

Not true my friend. OTH radars are used to track ships for the chinese ASBM too