Baitullah Mehsud dies

[Kasrkin]

You dont? Its quite simply.

Islam gives authority to declare martial jihad only to the government.

Islam says if you have made an agreement, even if it is with an oppressor of muslims (i.e. we agree that our land should not be used to attack you), then you have to honour that agreement.

And then there is all the other stuff about not blowing up innocents, fighting with honour, not killing unarmed people, honouring the treaties you made, and not causing iftna and not saying one thing to the government (I do not go to Afghanistan to fight) and another to the BBC (ohh I am just coming back from there, had a wonderful time)

P.S. And not hanging dead bodies on a pole ofcourse.

 

[Neo]

The Taleban interpret the above verse quite different;

"those who take up arms against us (against Mujahedeen) are not one of us."

Taleban count themselves in Mujahedeen though.

Tobah Allah, dunno who is right who is not!

Thats why we're gifted with a healthy brains, to read and to interpret Holy Qur'an as a whole and not to take phrase out of context to justify our selfish actions.

A true muslim will not take innocent lives, will not use His name in vain, mislead people or use force to implement Islamic laws.
Thats exactly what Talibans are doing.

 

[DarkStar]

Islam is a religion which prohibits taking of any innocent life, be it muslim or non muslim, It is well known that teh Quran says someone who kills one human being, it is as if he has killed all man kind. What of those who kill their won brothers?

The kharijis of yesteryear also claimed to be very pious and mujahids, when they unleashed their reign of terror and killing. It is interesting, that in all Hadeeth literature, this is the only group condemned by the Prophet of Islam by name "The khawarij (kharijees) are the dogs of hellfire".

I say send some of these dogs to hell fire.

 

[Nangialay]

When musharaf struck a peace deal with the taliban, Baitullah Mehsud said at the time that his Jehid will continue in afghanistan but his operations inside pakistani soil will stop. We Afghans wanted you dead at that time when you made that statement.

 

[BATMAN]

When musharaf struck a peace deal with the taliban, Baitullah Mehsud said at the time that his Jehid will continue in afghanistan but his operations inside pakistani soil will stop. We Afghans wanted you dead at that time when you made that statement.

When did Musharraf struck a deal with Mehsud?
Yes few tribals made peace deals but those were killed by drones or Mehsud.
He did said so but to the contrary he never killed a bird inside Afghjanistan but he did killed many technicians, doctors and scientists in Pakistan.
His terrorists activities inside Pakistan was at maximum during Musharraf's rule.

He was a liar and pushtoons don't act against their words, he definitely was very keen to do press conference and was always protected by enemies of Pakistan.

 

[Kasrkin]

When musharaf struck a peace deal with the taliban, Baitullah Mehsud said at the time that his Jehid will continue in afghanistan but his operations inside pakistani soil will stop.

He never said this, this is BS.

In fact the only reason Mullah Omar 'kicked' him out of the Taliban was that he was spending too much resources fighting Pakistan and Pakistan Army as compared to fighting the Afghans and their NATO protectors which is what Mullah Omar wanted...

 

[Nangialay]

He never said this, this is BS.
click on the link and read the article from VERY RELIABLE SOURCE because it is pakistani.... Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan


In fact the only reason Mullah Omar 'kicked' him out of the Taliban was that he was spending too much resources fighting Pakistan and Pakistan Army as compared to fighting the Afghans and their NATO protectors which is what Mullah Omar wanted...

Read the following article from your own pakistani sourse.

Waziristan clerics ask army to leave

* Tribesmen demand military action against criminals in Malakand
* Clerics denounce ban on carrying weapons in North Waziristan
* Baitullah accuses intelligence agencies of breaking peace deal
By Haji Mujtaba and Akhtar Amin

MIRANSHAH/MARDAN: Pro-local Taliban tribal clerics in North Waziristan on Friday demanded the army pull out of the area while parliamentarians and nazims of seven Frontier districts asked government to take military action against outlaws in Malakand Agency.

Two separate jirgas were held in Mir Ali and Mardan. In Mir Ali, clerics asked the army to leave North Waziristan and guard the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. The jirga in Mardan agreed to take action themselves if the government failed to initiate a military operation against outlaws in Malakand Agency within 24 hours.

The clerics denounced a ban on the display of weapons in North Waziristan. JUI-Fazl North Waziristan General Secretary Maulana Abdur Rehman told the Mir Ali jirga that carrying weapon was a key element of tribal traditions and tribal people could not accept the ban.

The North Waziristan administration banned public display of weapons to improve law and order situation. The ban was also aimed at keeping Al Qaeda and Taliban-linked militants away from attacking security forces in main towns.

“We have feuds. Living in the tribal areas without weapons is impossible,” said the JUI-F senior leader, who recently surrendered after the government declared him “wanted”.

Eyewitnesses said that only the clerics addressed the jirga attended by around 10,000 tribesmen. The tribal elders did not speak on the occasion. The jirga will meet again on Monday to take “important decisions”.

The participants demanded the removal of army from check-posts on roadside throughout North Waziristan.

Tribal militant commander Baitullah Mehsud also demanded army’s withdrawal from Waziristan. “It is part of our deal with the government that forces will be withdrawn,” he said while making telephone calls to newspaper offices in Peshawar from an undisclosed location.
He said the army’s withdrawal was a “key point” of the peace deal he reached with the government and signed on February 7 last year in the Sararogha area of South Waziristan.

Baitullah said all those killed on Wednesday in North Waziristan were “mujahideen” returning from “operations in Afghanistan”.

He said the tribal militants did not want to clash with security forces but whenever it happened there was no other way out. He added that tribal militants would continue jihad in Afghanistan. “Jihad will continue as long as it is possible,” he vowed.
Baitullah alleged that certain intelligence agencies were threatening him and were “trying to collapse the peace deal”. “Gen Safdar Hussain was sincere to peace in Waziristan but not the intelligence agencies, which are threatening to kill me,” he claimed.

The jirga of political leaders and elders in Mardan agreed to first meet NWFP Chief Minister Akram Khan Durrani to inform him of the situation in the seven districts. They pledged to fight criminals in Malakand Agency themselves if the government did not take action against them.

The jirga was attended by parliamentarians Ikramullah Shahid, Amanat Shah and Sikandar Khan Sherpao, former provincial minister Abdus Subhan, former senator from Malakand Agency Sahibzada Khalid Khan, nazims and other elders of the seven districts at Mardan Circuit House on Friday. The participants were from the Mardan, Swabi, Nowshera, Charsadda, Dir Upper, Dir Lower and Malakand Agency.

The jirag was concerned over the increasing incidents of kidnapping for ransom and pledged to flush the Provincial Administered Tribal Area (PATA) of all criminals. The jirga also expressed concern over vehicle thefts and demanded a crackdown on criminals.

The speakers said that a handful of gangsters in Malakand Agency had made the life of others miserable. They demanded the federal and provincial governments declare the Agency a settled area and initiate military action against the criminals.

The jirga demanded the government recover Haji Lal Zada who has been in the captivity of the kidnappers for the last two months. They threatened a direct action if the government failed to start military operation against the criminals in Malakand Agency.

There you go. I hope it is not BS anymore!

 

[Janbaz]

Thats why we're gifted with a healthy brains, to read and to interpret Holy Qur'an as a whole and not to take phrase out of context to justify our selfish actions.

A true muslim will not take innocent lives, will not use His name in vain, mislead people or use force to implement Islamic laws.
Thats exactly what Talibans are doing.

Very true..............The first Caliph Abu Bakr Siddique when ordering his army to an operation inside Syria under the general Khalid bin Walid said: You shall not harm women and childern, not raze buildings, destroy herds unless intended for consumption and harm any innocent individuals. these lines are translated right now from an Urdu book infront of me right now called "Basair".

What the taliban intend is mass civilian casualties, break the will of the masses just as Hitler tried to do so in the Battle of Britain....You be the judges.

 

[Kasrkin]

Just gimme the link plz Mr Drama Queen.

 

[Neo]

‘Mehsud seriously ill’​

ISLAMABAD: Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) chief Baitullah Mehsud is seriously ill with diabetes and may even be in a coma, security officials and Taliban commanders said on Wednesday. Local television channels reported that Mehsud had died overnight. However, officials and Taliban sources insist he is still alive, AFP reported. “Baitullah is sick. His condition is precarious,” a senior Pakistani security official said on condition of anonymity. The father of Mehsud’s fiancé said Mehsud was ‘in a coma’, security officials said. afp

 

[fatman17]

‘Mehsud seriously ill’​

ISLAMABAD: Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) chief Baitullah Mehsud is seriously ill with diabetes and may even be in a coma, security officials and Taliban commanders said on Wednesday. Local television channels reported that Mehsud had died overnight. However, officials and Taliban sources insist he is still alive, AFP reported. “Baitullah is sick. His condition is precarious,” a senior Pakistani security official said on condition of anonymity. The father of Mehsud’s fiancé said Mehsud was ‘in a coma’, security officials said. afp

good as dead IMO. lets move on !!!

 

[Kharian_Beast]

^Were these all stories bogus BS or is Mehsud in fact bed ridden? Or has he been made into an immortal like Osama bin Hidin ? How seriously should we take our media?

 

[Lockheed F-16]

It's awesome to see how many people believe a news which isn't realyl confirmed

 

[TOPGUN]

If it is true this is very good news !

 

[Lockheed F-16]

good as dead IMO. lets move on !!!

He isn't still dead. Hope our guys will finish this insane.He should start numbering all his bones