Bahrain opposition party officially announced the armed struggle

[Saif al-Arab]

Imagine Iran, Russia and USA will attack KSA together. LOL
What will you do?

Imagine for a second if you had a IQ higher than 50? What could you have been doing right now? Surely something more useful.

Sitting on a tropical beach in Hijaz.

 

[Erl]

Imagine for a second if you had a IQ higher than 50. What could you have been doing right now?

Sitting on a tropical beach in Hijaz.

Hey man Obama is gone. Your God father is under shadow of American voters. You know that he didn't let the courts to investigate 9/11 incident. Oh shit!!!! Trump will not do that. He has promised his people.
And after your trillions of dollars debt gets unveiled by wall street, your involvement in 9/11 will become a good excuse for Trump's campaign to march on Riadh. For fuk's sake think about that. I have a small dog house on my backyard. I will let you to stay in it.
Can you bark?
You will need it after USA comes for your Saudi masters. LOL Think about it Saif. I'm the last person on this earth would help you trash

 

[Erl]

Quite little Farsi and know your historical place. Don't push my buttons or it can get really ugly for you. In the meantime enjoy the show in Bahrain and understand that your diarrhea, barking and nonsense is given as much importance by Arabs as the barking of some Eskimo in the Arctic.

Your Wilayat al-Faqih "brothers" will be slaughtered as usual.

Don't forget my fair suggestions.
Let me get out of exploited space.

Trump is really dangerous man. My dog is already dead and you will be welcome.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Don't forget my fair suggestions.
Let me get out of exploited space.

Trump is really dangerous man. My dog is already dead and you will be welcome.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

@Kuwaiti Girl

Since you apparently support armed resistance in Bahrain against the monarchy, should you not be doing the same in Kuwait?

Or how about Iran which is an even bigger dictatorship than Bahrain and where even more minorities (Arabs, Turks, Baloch, Kurds, Sunni Muslims, Afro-Iranians etc.), including your own supposed ethnicity (Baloch), are oppressed even more and executed much more?

When will we see you making a thread about that?

You are a supposed atheist feminist but you might as well have been a hardcore Wilayat al-Faqih supporter and Shia Islamist as your entire worldview matches theirs.

The overly focus on Arab governments/regimes and Turkey also fits into that profile.

Many of your views have also changed drastically within 6 months time.

Something does not add up here.

As for this news, if those Shia Islamists want to be crushed, this is exactly what they should do.

Shias make up 60% of Bahrain's population and only a minority of them support this Islamist political party. They have no chance of winning/taking control of Bahrain as long as KSA/GCC exists. Let alone the US.

If need be those Shia Islamists can easily be stripped of their citizenship and deported and in return other Arabs (Sunnis) or non-Arab Sunnis could be neutralized and nothing could be done about this. This has already occurred.

There is zero chance of a Wilayat al-Faqih dictatorship in Bahrain and if there will even be a hint of this expect 1000's of Saudi Arabian volunteers who would ensure that this would not be the case.

Where in this thread have I ever stated or suggested that I was in favor of an armed uprising in Bahrain? Do you have a comprehension problem or are you deliberately trying to be disingenuous?

I clearly stated in my previous post that I don't expect the Bahraini people to resort to large-scale violence or any other kind of organized violence against their government since the vast majority of them are pacifist and aren't foolish enough to destroy their own country for the sake of foreign meddlers -- unlike the Syrian people.

So how on Earth did you come to the conclusion that I was in favor of an armed conflict in Bahrain?

Secondly, I've been very critical of Iran in many other threads on this forum. I have no respect for any of the autocratic, oppressive countries in this shithole of a region. But why must I prove myself to you anyway? Who exactly are you to expect that from other members?

I have openly criticized Iran and just about every other Middle Eastern country. I certainly cannot say the same about you, that's for sure. It appears that you're projecting your own personality on other people.

As for this thread, it's clearly about Bahrain, so why should I be talking about the oppression of Iran's Kurds and Balochis around here? And how hypocritical can you get? You want me to criticize the mistreatment of minorities in Iran, but you don't like it if I criticize the mistreatment of ethnic and religious groups in Sunni-ruled countries such as Bahrain and Turkey? Clearly it is you who is being biased.

As for Bahrain, I reemphasize what I have stated in my previous post. Don't expect a large-scale armed uprising in Bahrain anytime soon. The Bahraini people are extremely civilized, pacifist and patient. They've been demanding greater political and individual rights since the 1920s, long before some of our parents and grandparents were even born. Why should they resort to large-scale or organized violence now when they haven't done that for the last one hundred years?

It is up to the rulers of Bahrain to preserve their own power. They'll have no one to blame but themselves if their country continues going down the shitter. That applies to the Bahraini rulers just as much as it applies to the rulers of every other Middle Eastern country, including Iran and Syria.

Bahrain must implement liberalizing political reforms and grant greater individual rights to its people in order to compensate for the rapidly growing economic problems in the country. Many years ago, the Bahraini government was able to afford neglecting/avoiding political reform since the national economy was doing well and many citizens were able to set aside their political demands in exchange for economic benefits. Nowadays, however, Bahrain can no longer afford to ignore its political and human rights problems since the national economy is shrinking and many people no longer have anything to lose. If the Bahraini government was half as smart as it thinks it is, then it would implement these political reforms as soon as possible in order to avoid another 2011-style popular uprising in the coming years.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

@Kuwaiti Girl did you not see my post or did you just ignore it? I am not demanding an answer as nobody has to answer anyone on this forum but I saw that you posted in another thread.

I would like to read your reply as I believe that my points are objectively correct.

Where in this thread have I ever stated or suggested that I was in favor of an armed uprising in Bahrain? Do you have a comprehension problem or are you deliberately trying to be disingenuous?

I clearly stated in my previous post that I don't expect the Bahraini people to resort to large-scale violence or any other kind of organized violence against their government since the vast majority of them are pacifist and aren't foolish enough to destroy their own country for the sake of foreign meddlers -- unlike the Syrian people.

So how on Earth did you come to the conclusion that I was in favor of an armed conflict in Bahrain?

Secondly, I've been very critical of Iran in many other threads on this forum. I have no respect for any of the autocratic, oppressive countries in this shithole of a region. But why must I prove myself to you anyway? Who exactly are you to expect that from other members?

I have openly criticized Iran and just about every other Middle Eastern country. I certainly cannot say the same about you, that's for sure. It appears that you're projecting your own personality on other people.

As for this thread, it's clearly about Bahrain, so why should I be talking about the oppression of Iran's Kurds and Balochis around here? And how hypocritical can you get? You want me to criticize the mistreatment of minorities in Iran, but you don't like it if I criticize the mistreatment of ethnic and religious groups in Sunni-ruled countries such as Bahrain and Turkey? Clearly it is you who is being biased.

As for Bahrain, I reemphasize what I have stated in my previous post. Don't expect a large-scale armed uprising in Bahrain anytime soon. The Bahraini people are extremely civilized, pacifist and patient. They've been demanding greater political and individual rights since the 1920s, long before some of our parents and grandparents were even born. Why should they resort to large-scale or organized violence now when they haven't done that for the last one hundred years?

It is up to the rulers of Bahrain to preserve their own power. They'll have no one to blame but themselves if their country continues going down the shitter. That applies to the Bahraini rulers just as much as it applies to the rulers of every other Middle Eastern country, including Iran and Syria.

Bahrain must implement liberalizing political reforms and grant greater individual rights to its people in order to compensate for the rapidly growing economic problems in the country. Many years ago, the Bahraini government was able to afford neglecting/avoiding political reform since the national economy was doing well and many citizens were able to set aside their political demands in exchange for economic benefits. Nowadays, however, Bahrain can no longer afford to ignore its political and human rights problems since the national economy is shrinking and many people no longer have anything to lose. If the Bahraini government was half as smart as it thinks it is, then it would implement these political reforms as soon as possible in order to avoid another 2011-style popular uprising in the coming years.

You have thanked the thread starter of this thread who is a well-known Islamist and hardcore proponent of the Wilayat al-Faqih system which Iran's Mullah's actively want to export to the Muslim world, especially to Shia minorities outside of Iran, in particular Shia Arabs.

Do you think that Iranians would accept an Sunni Islamist and independent Baluchistan that would act against the interests of the Iranian Mullah's and endanger the stability of Iran by acting as a proxy of say GCC states or Pakistan? Or an independent Arabistan or other minorities gaining power in their ancestral regions?

If that is not a sign of approval of the news discussed I do not know. You tell me?

I have criticized the GCC and KSA countless of times. As recently as today so that is false.

My point is that you focus overly on Arab regimes and Turkey lately but rarely talk about the Iranian Mullah's and other dictatorships in the region who are not any better and at some fronts, as is the case with Iran, even worse.

I don't disagree with the rest of your post. Understand that I have nothing against the average Bahraini Shia and for all I care they can rule their country if they are a majority but I will not accept an hostile pro-Wilayat al-Faqih satellite state in the GCC who would serve as an extension of the "Islamic Republic".

Nor do I endorse violence or terrorism as many of those Shia Islamists have engaged in or support.

The day the Bahraini monarchy resorts to the mass-killings and destruction that Al-Assad has done in Syria, you can expect me to downplay their use of violence. Until then I am very much against it.

Also I would think that a Kuwaiti citizen living in Kuwait would want the GCC to be a stable region and not want it to undergo what other parts of the region have undergone in recent memory.

I mean let's be honest. Bahrain is not much different from Kuwait and Kuwait is not much different from KSA in the wider picture. All GCC countries are ruled and dominated by monarchic families. If you support the removal of certain dynasties (for whatever reasons) you should support the removal of all monarchies in the GCC and let people (masses) decide their own future. The same goes for Iran as you can replace monarchs with Mullah's (Supreme leader) and their families. Before that they had an absolute monarchy of their own (Pahlavis).

Don't you agree?

Ok, I am somehow ignored. I understand that not all questions are easy to answer.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

For the record, the last thing I want is to see Bahrain turn into yet another Islamic Republic.

The current situation in Bahrain is actually better for "my people" lol.

The Bahraini rulers are extremely close to non-Arab Sunnis, especially Persians and Balochis.

For many of my relatives, this is actually a good thing.

Bahrain is paradise for non-Shia Ajam such as myself.

But I'm not selfish. I happen to care about the native Shia Arabs of Bahrain, most of whom are treated like dirt right now.

In an ideal world, Bahrain should undergo political liberalization and function like most respectable liberal democratic monarchies in the West.

The reason why Bahrain hasn't become another Syria has nothing to do with the government. Instead, it's got to do with the fact that the Bahraini people didn't want to destroy their own country.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

For the record, the last thing I want is to see Bahrain turn into yet another Islamic Republic.

The current situation in Bahrain is actually better for "my people" lol.

The Bahraini rulers are extremely close to non-Arab Sunnis, especially Persians and Balochis.

For many of my relatives, this is actually a good thing.

Bahrain is paradise for non-Shia Ajam such as myself.

But I'm not selfish. I happen to care about the native Shia Arabs of Bahrain, most of whom are treated like dirt right now.

In an ideal world, Bahrain should undergo political liberalization and function like most respectable liberal democratic monarchies in the West.

The reason why Bahrain hasn't become another Syria has nothing to do with the government. Instead, it's got to do with the fact that the Bahraini people didn't want to destroy their own country.

I am not sure why you insist on dividing people into locals and Ajam. Many of the Ajam in the GCC, aside from being an overall very small minority when the entire population of Arabia is taken into account, have lived in the GCC for generations, some for centuries, and intermarried with locals and adopted local culture and customs although many still retain some of their original cultures and customs. Even many of the Ajam are of Iranian Arab descent or of mixed Arab-Persian descent.

There is even a separate category in the Muslim world/Middle East that designates such people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Arab

Of which most are found in the GCC and historically, albeit almost not any longer due to Saddam's policies, in Iraq. Two of the regions of the Arab world that have the most in common with Iran btw and vice versa.

Many of the Ajam are also Sunni. Most in fact so that is neither a problem if we assume that being a Shia is a problem in the GCC to begin with which is not the case.

Afro-Arabs are mostly Sub-Saharan Africans and Horners genetically although many have intermarried with Arabs and also have distant as well as more recent Arab ancestry, but I never hear about them categorizing themselves into locals and non-locals. They consider themsleves as locals on all fronts.

Similar so-called Ajami citizens of Kuwait, UAE, Qatar, KSA and Oman should do the same. If they consider themselves as foreigners and feel no affinity to the countries of their birth (which I know only a tiny minority do) they should leave or return to their ancestral homelands and in return their place will be taken by millions of Arab and non-Arab expats who want to take their place let alone the Bedoon in the case of Kuwait.

If I was a Kuwaiti I would consider you an Kuwaiti just like I consider Afro-Arabs, Saudi Arabians of Turkish, Uzbek, South East Asian (Indonesian), Chinese, Iranian, Bosnian/Albanian and Caucasian (Chechen, Circassian, Avar etc.) as Saudi Arabians. Let alone Saudi Arabians that have some kind of ancestral ties to other Arab countries which a lot have. I don't categorize people in such boxes unless they insist themselves or unless we are talking about ancient history and which people in such a case has more claim on legacy of land x or y. Obviously in such a case an fairly recent migrant to Hijaz from Dagestan 200 years ago or before the formation of modern-day KSA back in 1932, has less of a claim on that lands history than say an local. But only in such instances. Otherwise every citizen is equal albeit you can have racist or families not wanting or accepting marriage proposals from ethnicity x or y but you can find that in all countries. In Europe for instance you still have locals who would rather not want their daughters or sons to marry migrants or even mixtures.

Look you know very well that I have spent countless of posts (if not hundreds) here talking about the necessary need for GCC monarchies to reform the societies and the removal of idiotic laws that hinder social and economic progress. This is particularly evident in KSA.

Not only that, the support for armed Islamist groups in Bahrain is small and historically Bahrainis have been pacifist people and experienced little conflict unlike Syrians.

Also I disagree strongly with Shias of Bahrain supposedly being strongly oppressed or targeted simply due to them being Shia. I have seen no evidence of this.

My point is that I am all for political changes in Bahrain but not at the expense of Bahrain being turned into an Mullah satellite state that tries to emulate the Iranian Mullah's. By doing so Bahrain would not progress but regress. Nor do I take it lightly when some Iranian keyboard warriors based in God know what region of Iran or country of the world, talking about the second coming of the Wilayat al-Faqih system and what not.

They are talking about Bahrain as if they were living in Switzerland. It's a joke because by all measures and accounts Bahrain is a freer society than Iran. Not that this says a lot but you get the point.

 

[HAIDER]

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[Kuwaiti Girl]

I am not sure why you insist of dividing people into locals and Ajam. Many of the Ajam in the GCC, aside from being an overall very small minority when the entire population of Arabia is taken into account, have lived in the GCC for generations, some for centuries, and intermarried with locals and adopted local culture and customs although many still retain some of their original cultures and customs. Even many of the Ajam are of Iranian Arab descent or of mixed Arab-Persian descent.

There is even a separate category in the Muslim world/Middle East that designates such people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Arab

Of which most are found in the GCC and historically, albeit almost not any longer due to Saddam's policies, in Iraq. Two of the regions of the Arab world that have the most in common with Iran btw and vice versa.

Many of the Ajam are also Sunni. Most in fact so that is neither a problem.

Afro-Arabs are mostly Sub-Saharan Africans and Horners genetically although many have intermarried with Arabs and also have distant as well as more recent Arab ancestry, but I never hear about them categorizing themselves into locals and non-locals. They consider themsleves as locals on all fronts.

Similar so-called Ajami citizens of Kuwait, UAE, Qatar, KSA and Oman should do the same. If they consider themselves as foreigners and feel no affinity to the countries of their birth (which I know only a tiny minority do) they should leave or return to their ancestral homelands and in return their place will be taken by millions of Arab and non-Arab expats who want to take their place let alone the Bedoon in the case of Kuwait.

Look you know very well that I have spent countless of posts (if not hundreds) here about the necessary need for GCC monarchies to reform the societies and the removal of idiotic laws that hinder social and economic progress. This is particularly evident in KSA.

Not only that, the support for armed Islamist groups in Bahrain is small and historically Bahrainis has been pacifist people and experienced little conflict unlike Syrians.

My point is that I am all for political changes in Bahrain but not at the expense of Bahrain being turned into an Mullah satellite state that tries to emulate the Iranian Mullah's. By doing so Bahrain would not progress but regress.

You didn't have to write an essay about the Ajam of the region lol. My point was that Bahrain in its current form is actually paradise for people like me (i.e. non-Arabs) because it treats us very well while it treats its own native Shia Arab population like dirt. So if I were selfish, I wouldn't give a toss about what happens to the Shias of Bahrain.

And yes, I don't want Bahrain to turn into an Iranian-style theocracy either.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

You didn't have to write an essay about the Ajam of the region lol. My point was that Bahrain in its current form is actually paradise for people like me (i.e. non-Arabs) because it treats us very well while it treats its own native Shia Arab population like dirt. So if I were selfish, I wouldn't give a toss about what happens to the Shias of Bahrain.

And yes, I don't want Bahrain to turn into an Iranian-style theocracy either.

Baloch people in Iran are treated many times worse. The Arab population of Bahrain is not treated as dirt as it encompasses both Sunnis and Shias and all social classes. Only anti-government Shias are treated badly if they are active in anti-government activities but that is the case all over the Middle East when it comes to anti-establishment elements.

The average Shia Bahraini lives better than most Shias in the Muslim world do.

 

[Kaniska]

One things for sure, irrespective of whatever people says about Arab and Gulf Monarchs, their rulers are able to provide quality of life to their citizen which is equivallent standard to most Western nations..So people should protest if your living standard is not good . But here it does not seem to be the case for Bahrain.