Bacha Khan University attack: Terrorists are winning this war not Pakistan

[IceCold]

Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Lt Gen Asim Bajwa on Wednesday said major breakthroughs had been made in identifying the terrorists who attacked the Bacha Khan University in Charsadda earlier in the day, reported Dawn news. The ISPR chief said the terrorists' phone calls had been traced and analysed, and that two cell phones had also been recovered from them. "When army reached the premises, all four attackers were alive. They were contained in the hostel and were eventually eliminated on the roof and the stairs," informed the ISPR chief. They had a lot of ammo, including grenades, he added. "Their call logs were analysed and an intelligence picture was established, with most data having been collected," said Lt Gen Bajwa. The carnage in Charsadda may not be on the scale of the Army Public School attack, but the intentions were the same — to deliberately, monstrously and wretchedly strike at the most vulnerable and to spread anger and fear far and wide. They must not be allowed to win. A greater resolve exists — that of the Pakistani people and the state that represents them — and it will prevail against the banned TTP. But there should be no illusions. This is a long war. It will not be won in a month or a year. It will be many years before Pakistan can truly be rid of the militant curse. But that reality does not mean immediate steps cannot be taken. Quite simply, the time has come for Pakistan to stop merely talking about better border management and demanding the eradication of militant safe havens in Afghanistan, and get serious work done on both fronts. The response by the security forces deserves praise, but the same cannot be said about the country’s security apparatus. The successful attack on the Bacha Khan University means that, despite claims to the contrary by the government and military, the operational ability of terrorists has not been damaged by the ongoing military operation against them. While condemnations have poured in from many in the government, including Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, and with Army Chief Raheel Sharif visiting the site of terror, it is also clear that the government cannot guarantee the safety of our educational institutions. Attacking an event marking the legacy of Bacha Khan seems to also be an attempt to mock the non-violent legacy of the Pakhtun leader. The attack must be taken with the seriousness and commitment that the APS Peshawar attack was seen as. As schools were shut down in KP in view of the security threat and people took their children home, we must question how long we can continue to live like this. We have heard the rhetoric of a ‘fight back’ at all costs. But do we have a guarantee of eventual success? Are we hitting at the roots of extremism or is it growing in our country even as songs are sung and slogans raised? How many lives must be lost before we realise that there is something very wrong with the way we are dealing with out terrorism problem. The impunity that some extremist groups have is compounded with the fact that little real action has been taken to identify the root causes of our terror threat. How many more chemistry teachers are to die saving their students? How many children are we to sacrifice before history and politics teach us which way salvation lies? .

Bacha Khan University attack: Terrorists are winning this war not Pakistan

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Terrorists are winning this war? There are more schools in Pakistan than the whole police force - It is impossible to protect all of them. Terrorists are desperately trying to show their last strands of power - they see the Pakistani population not fearing them anymore and they want to keep this terror over us. We are to see more attacks like these again - its like the last desperate attempts of a prey before being eaten. Right now the terrorists are being crushed to a point that they will never be able to launch attacks like these.

 

[Nilgiri]

Think its way premature to say terrorists are winning anywhere in the world....much less in a country approaching 200 million people. Its basically impossible for terrorists to win in such a critical mass.

 

[Tipu7]

They have lost the battle field, so now they are back to hit civilian sector (under the shade of their masters sitting across border)

They are losing, and losing it desperately.............. its matter of time when they will pay a heavy duty price for what they did........... and this price will be paid by both............. Masters+Servants............... will love to see it

 

[Strigon]

you have to ask your self when do these animals attack where its least expected? On soft targets, kids, young lings that cant defend themselves.

Every week there is news of 30+ terrorists killed in airstrikes and you know many people discard that news from ISPR as fake but this strike happens due to desperation and eveyone jumps ship?

Military operations are only a temporary solution, they need to be killed from inside and their ideology destroyed. People complain about how army has failed to kill TTP in this operation, US has been killing AQ for the past decade in Afghan and they are still not entirely dead.

These arm chair generals need to have their keyboards snatched for a while and shown the sun outside.

 

[Nilgiri]

(under the shade of their masters sitting across border)

Pakistan trashed over bogus claims of Indian terrorism - Times of India

The charges have invited ridicule in the western media that is now all too familiar with Pakistan's dalliance with terrorist groups, which only successive US administrations have winked at for tactical exigency such as access to Afghanistan.

"With more imagination than evidence, Pakistani conspiracy theorists saw India behind both acts of violence on their soil," the Economist noted tartly on Friday, adding that "Pakistan offers no evidence of Indian involvement in attacks on its territory, whereas Indian officials have offered 'actionable intelligence' linking JeM to the air-base attack, and invited Pakistan to send its own investigators."

While the US administration has been circumspect in not publicly embarrassing a notional ally whose help it needs in Afghanistan despite its backing of terrorist groups, American journalists and commentators who have covered the region extensively are calling Pakistan's bluff. In a devastating critique in the New Yorker last week, Dexter Filkins, who covered Pakistan for the NYT for several years, began a story like this:


"Imagine a country that is embroiled in a long and bloody conflict with its neighbor, and each time its democratically elected Prime Minister tries to reach out and make peace, his own army launches an attack to make sure the peace doesn't take hold. You might think you were trapped inside a dystopian movie. Unless, of course, you've been to Pakistan, where this happens all the time."




"For decades, the Pakistani military has backed insurgent groups whose express aim is to cross into India and fight. The ostensible aim of these militant groups, and of the I.S.I., is to bleed India into ceding control over Kashmir. This has never been more than a fantasy, but it keeps Pakistan focussed on something other than its intractable domestic problems, and it justifies the military's bloated budgets," Filkins wrote, noting "that the I.S.I. plays godfather to groups like Jaish-e-Mohammed, which appears to have carried out the Pathankot attack, and Lashkar-e-Toiba, which launched the operation in Mumbai—is beyond doubt."

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Obviously Terrorists will win when the Ministry Issued threat alerts to the Provincial gov they should act on that ... the ministry gave multiple threat alerts but sadly no actions were taken

 

[Nilgiri]

Obviously Terrorists will win when the Ministry Issued threat alerts to the Provincial gov they should act on that ... the ministry gave multiple threat alerts but sadly no actions were taken

Wow thats terrible. Is there an investigation now into this shocking lapse of judgement?

 

[Zabaniyah]

I wouldn't say winning.

After getting pressured, they spread out to kill softer targets. Just like rats from a sewer spreading disease.

Military operations are only a temporary solution, they need to be killed from inside and their ideology destroyed.

It's hard to destroy an ideology. Let alone a culture. Although, it is possible to weaken its core enough to send it to oblivion.

 

[Strigon]

It's hard to destroy an ideology. Let alone a culture. Although, it is possible to weaken its core enough to send it to oblivion.

Its a slow process but does go away when its becoming hugely unpopular and hated. Recruitment stops or slows down except for complete nut cases, for example KKK is almost non existent now. With daily attacks ttp is turning more esp undecided people against it but no one can help people who have nothing to achieve in their life but what they think as an easy route to "heaven". Educating people in not necessarily a degree if they dont wish so but that they do have a choice not to peruse such evil ways and that life is more than blowing self up for stupid reasons is of paramount importance

 

[Faiez]

Think its way premature to say terrorists are winning anywhere in the world....much less in a country approaching 200 million people. Its basically impossible for terrorists to win in such a critical mass.

Iraq ? Afghanistan ?

 

[Nilgiri]

Iraq ? Afghanistan ?

a) Their populations are much lower than Pakistan.

b) The terrorists have created hearth zones, but they are not "winning" by any real measure strategically.

 

[RescueRanger]

You people expect to undo 20 years of poison with one short dose of Narcan?

To put my above post into some perspective, based on estimates from the fire protection association of Pakistan, fires kill 16,400 and injure a further 165,000, so in 2015 fire was a greater threat to public safety, than terrorism. Let that settle in for a bit

Pakistan Zindabad!

 

[WAR-rior]

They have lost the battle field, so now they are back to hit civilian sector (under the shade of their masters sitting across border)

They are losing, and losing it desperately.............. its matter of time when they will pay a heavy duty price for what they did........... and this price will be paid by both............. Masters+Servants............... will love to see it

And the same master servant bull shit again? Your ISPR and exNSA lied to you about having proofs and showing them to the world. When the time comes they shit bricks and find out all that was only for local pakistani consumption and far away from facts.

And here we have you still the believer of conspiracies even when the truth is out and kicking. What should your kind be called? Ignorant or Arrogant?

You people expect to undo 20 years of poison with one short dose of Narcan?

To put my above post into some perspective, based on estimates from the fire protection association of Pakistan, fires kill 16,400 and injure a further 165,000, so in 2015 fire was a greater threat to public safety, than terrorism. Let that settle in for a bit

Pakistan Zindabad!

Its great to see the graph going down so well. Down with terrorism. But it's Lame of you to compare death reasons to find solace. No matter how many casualties happen in Pakistan due to what reason, but finding happiness in terrorism not being the number one killer is illogical and sadistic in a way.

In other reasons of accidents somewhere or the other it's a possible mistake of the victim but in terrorism it's the 100% innocent ones that lose their lives. So even a single casualty to terrorism is unacceptable.

 

[RescueRanger]

And the same master servant bull shit again? Your ISPR and exNSA lied to you about having proofs and showing them to the world. When the time comes they shit bricks and find out all that was only for local pakistani consumption and far away from facts.

And here we have you still the believer of conspiracies even when the truth is out and kicking. What should your kind be called? Ignorant or Arrogant?


Its great to see the graph going down so well. Down with terrorism. But it's Lame of you to compare death reasons to find solace. No matter how many casualties happen in Pakistan due to what reason, but finding happiness in terrorism not being the number one killer is illogical and sadistic in a way.

In other reasons of accidents somewhere or the other it's a possible mistake of the victim but in terrorism it's the 100% innocent ones that lose their lives. So even a single casualty to terrorism is unacceptable.

I have lost a cousin and some very dear friends to terrorism. I have had to lift the lifeless bodies of the victims ( or what's left of them) and transport them to the morgue one was an infant and as a father I will never forget that day.

So to be frank I couldn't give a shit what you think of me. If you don't have anything constructive to say, please STFU!