Babur Cruise Missile - Database

[AUz]

@The Deterrent

Did Pakistan indigenously developed turbofan engine for babur? Developing a turbofan engine that can take a cruise missile to 700km isn't small task but Pakistan doesn't have any base in engine technology. So how is Pak making decent turbofan engines for babur?

Whats the catch? Any idea/insights? or its all classified info

 

[The Deterrent]

@The Deterrent

Did Pakistan indigenously developed turbofan engine for babur? Developing a turbofan engine that can take a cruise missile to 700km isn't small task but Pakistan doesn't have any base in engine technology. So how is Pak making decent turbofan engines for babur?

Whats the catch? Any idea/insights? or its all classified info

The all-weather friend seems to be helpful in this regard. Pakistan either bought a large number of engines or is producing/assembling them locally.

 

[AUz]

The all-weather friend seems to be helpful in this regard. Pakistan either bought a large number of engines or is producing/assembling them locally.

Janab ap ko kabhi "curiosity" nahi hui is baray mein? Kabhi pta laganay ki try nahi ki ksi se?

I don't know why our anchors don't ask these questions from relevant authorities. Buying engines for your premiere cruise missiles isn't a very smart way to go about things. At the very least, there should be transfer of technology and know how..

 

[The Deterrent]

Janab ap ko kabhi "curiosity" nahi hui is baray mein? Kabhi pta laganay ki try nahi ki ksi se?

I don't know why our anchors don't ask these questions from relevant authorities. Buying engines for your premiere cruise missiles isn't a very smart way to go about things. At the very least, there should be transfer of technology and know how..

Line pe aa jaein aap.

I guess they don't ask questions which don't have any answers. Its just my opinion that the engines were either bought or produced locally (ToT).

 

[Arsalan]

@The Deterrent

Did Pakistan indigenously developed turbofan engine for babur? Developing a turbofan engine that can take a cruise missile to 700km isn't small task but Pakistan doesn't have any base in engine technology. So how is Pak making decent turbofan engines for babur?

Whats the catch? Any idea/insights? or its all classified info

Not indegeniously developed an engine but are producing these at home as per various reports. We discussed this earlier as well but there was not much available.
You can check at:
Babur Cruise Missile - Database

 

[zahidiqbalrana]

What a technology they had produced ... amazing

 

[Blue Marlin]

Babur is guided with sophisticated systems which form a image of the terrain in the missile and guides it accordingly.
Babur is stealth missile and the range is being developed. And sooner or latter a longer-range Babur would be integrated to be launched from frigates.

you are partly correct. the babur missile's range is being increased but the missile would need to be based soon a frigate that has a VLS thats something Pakistan does not have. and not any time soon. let the economy grow then focus on a frigate launch able missile. its stick to land and submarine for now and surface ships later.

 

[ZAC1]

submarine version has been handed over to PN ?

 

[Arsalan]

submarine version has been handed over to PN ?

It is reported to be under development. There is no official confirmation yet. However there a plenty of developments that point in direction of a naval version, things like tube launched trails of the missile, vertical launch trails, formations of Naval Strategic Forces Command. All these point towards project to arm navy with land attack missiles. It is possible that it will be submarines that will get these missiles first and surface ships that will be inducted with missiles will be inducted at a later stage.

 

[Quwa]

It is reported to be under development. There is no official confirmation yet. However there a plenty of developments that point in direction of a naval version, things like tube launched trails of the missile, vertical launch trails, formations of Naval Strategic Forces Command. All these point towards project to arm navy with land attack missiles. It is possible that it will be submarines that will get these missiles first and surface ships that will be inducted with missiles will be inducted at a later stage.

A couple of points.

You might recall in 2008 that Pakistan and Turkey signed an agreement to jointly develop turbojet engines, and knowing the programs of both countries, it is likely that indigenous power plants for cruise missiles are on the horizon.

As for naval LACM, it is clear the reason why we haven't seen PN really push on it is because we lack adequate platforms to carry and launch these missiles. I think the actual missile technology is in the late stages of development, if not complete, but in the absence of a suitable SSK and/or FFG, what is the point of saying we have one? Yes, it'll let the world know what we're capable of, but I would prefer seeing a complete triad. That said, solid LACM capability from frigates should come from a 5000+ ton design with wide area air defence (90-120+ km range).

 

[Arsalan]

A couple of points.

You might recall in 2008 that Pakistan and Turkey signed an agreement to jointly develop turbojet engines, and knowing the programs of both countries, it is likely that indigenous power plants for cruise missiles are on the horizon.

As for naval LACM, it is clear the reason why we haven't seen PN really push on it is because we lack adequate platforms to carry and launch these missiles. I think the actual missile technology is in the late stages of development, if not complete, but in the absence of a suitable SSK and/or FFG, what is the point of saying we have one? Yes, it'll let the world know what we're capable of, but I would prefer seeing a complete triad. That said, solid LACM capability from frigates should come from a 5000+ ton design with wide area air defence (90-120+ km range).

True!
However PN is really not looking for 5000+ ton frigates/destroyers so our naval arm of nuclear triad will be formed by submarine force. For the foreseeable future at least. Heavier frigates are on cards but appx 4000-5000 ton category with a view to provide better air defense capabilities. Land attack role will be left for the submarines and the recent drive to buy 8 submarines from China seem to be a part of it.

 

[HRK]

A couple of points.

You might recall in 2008 that Pakistan and Turkey signed an agreement to jointly develop turbojet engines, and knowing the programs of both countries, it is likely that indigenous power plants for cruise missiles are on the horizon.

If you could plz post some more detail or link that will be helpful .....

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

It would be good to have an air to surface version of this Babur missile as well.

 

[black-hawk_101]

When it will going to be integrated on F-22Ps and also is there any chance of using it against IS and other terrorists?

 

[In arduis fidelis]

Hi,

It would be good to have an air to surface version of this Babur missile as well.

Don't we have Ra'ad for that role already?Or this has advantage over Ra'ad?