Baba ramdev arrested....supporters attacked

[Bang Galore]

The problem is that there are so guys in the forum who have not the faintest idea of the law.

Fact: The government can intervene. It is the legally constituted body that is so authorised.

Fact: there is no automatic permission to "fast onto death". No elected government can afford to sit & allow such acts to happen. The only authority that a protestor may have is moral, not legal. Once Baba Ramdev reneged on commitments made to the government, there was little choice left to the government but to act.

Fact: He was only authorised to conduct a yoga program at ram leela maidan. Any protest would have to be conducted at the Jantar Mantar protest area. Breaking simple rules are never good for those who want better implementation of laws.

In a democratic country, people's voice is decided at ballot boxes /electoral machines. Individuals have no automatic right to assume that they speak for the country. It is as true of Baba Ramdev as it is for Anna Hazare. What separates the two is Anna Hazare's stature and his years of social service. People who come in private planes to protest about black money & corruption are , to be blunt- delusional & silly. Baba Ramdev can take on the political parties in an election if he indeed has the massive support he claims. Competitive & petulant fasting ( because Anna Hazare got kudos) is an approach that will go nowhere. The sheer stupidity of Baba Ramdev & his supporters in this case is astounding. Do you think there are no consequences if you keep backing out of a deal signed with the government especially when the government has plenty of options. No one will take a person who keeps wriggling out of agreements seriously, especially those that are agreed with senior Cabinet members. The result of this stupidity is there for everyone to see..

 

[humanfirst]

I dont care a damn about him or his motives.But i believe he have the right to protest non violently.It was not right for govt/police to arrest him.I will fight for his right to protest.
@mumbaiindians.
The person who abused baba ramdev was not a muslim.So please edit your posts abusing prophet muhammed.

 

[Marxist]

this is Indian version of Tiananmen Square incident,state sponsored brutality against a peaceful protest

 

[Bang Galore]

this is Indian version of Tiananmen Square incident,state sponsored brutality against a peaceful protest

C'mon man. Tiananmen? A bit of a stretch, surely.

 

[EjazR]

Looks like there was some backdoor understanding between Congress and Baba Ramdev to do a token fast that would end by Saturday. When he didn't stick to his "deal" the letter of understanding was given to the media by Kapil Sibal and then police action today. Looks like Baba Ramdev succmmed to Congress backdoor politics.

Everyone is against Corruption and wants to bring back Black Money, but doing a fast unto death when youare only fasting for 14 hrs a day in an AC pandal is hardly the best way to do so.

The Tribune, Letter puts Ramdev on backfoot
Sibal says yoga guru had promised to call off indefinite fast;
It’s a lie, claims Ramdev
The government and Ramdev virtually declared war against each other today as the two traded charges, accused each other of betrayal and reneging on their agreement.

Despite the angry posturing and Ramdev’s decision to continue with his fast, the government sent him a letter late tonight assuring him that it stands by its commitment to frame a law declaring black money as national property and that it was setting up a committee to frame such a legislation.

This dramatic turn-round came late this evening when Telecom Minister Kapil Sibal, who was a member of the delegation which talked to the yoga guru, said Ramdev had promised them that he would publicly announce his decision to go in for a “tap” or meditation till June 6 instead of the indefinite fast originally planned after the government gave him a written assurance that his demands would be met. The yoga guru, he charged, went back on his word.

Addressing a hurriedly-convened press conference this evening, Sibal even released copies of a letter - signed by Ramdev’s close aide Acharya Balakrishna - which was highly appreciative of the government’s response to their demands on black money, corruption and other issues and said since the Centre was sincere in its efforts, Ramdev would only sit on a three-day “tap.”

Ramdev, who commenced his indefinite satyagraha today as originally planned, was quick to retaliate. Addressing the press at the Ramlila Grounds, he cried foul, accused Sibal of lying and charged that the government had forced his aide to write this letter which was meant only for the Prime Minister’s consumption and was not meant to be made public.

He declared angrily that his fast would continue and even challenged the government to arrest him. Declaring that he would not speak to Sibal, he thundered, “I will expose the government at an opportune moment.” At the same time, he kept a window open for a possible agreement, saying that he would reconsider his decision if the government gave him a written assurance that his demands would be met within a specified time frame.

Just before Sibal and Sahay settled in for the press conference, the Telecom Minister received a telephone from Ramdev who sought clarifications on his demands. Sibal, it is learnt, clarified that the government would bring a law to declare black money as national asset and that the yoga guru should announce his decision to end his fast failing which the government would release his letter to the press. Ramdev immediately declared victory told his followers that his demand had been accepted. However, the mood changed dramatically within the next ten minutes when Sibal went ahead and released Ramdev's letter.

The government's decision to go public with the details of their marathon negotiations was taken at a meeting at Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee's residence this evening after Ramdev failed to make the promised announcement in his first address to his followers. Besides Sibal, Tourism Minister Subdoh Kant Sahay, who has also been part of the delegation because of his personal equation with Ramdev, and Home Minister P.Chidambaram, were present at this meeting where there was a general consensus that that his issue be dealt with firmly.

Having come in for all-round criticism for having succumbed to Ramdev's "blackmail tactics", the government, therefore, upped the ante against Ramdev. "If we can be accommodating, we can also be firm," Sibal underlined while rejecting the charge that the government was weak.

 

[Marxist]

C'mon man. Tiananmen? A bit of a stretch, surely.

yes i know ,can compare both against unarmed protesters

 

[53fd]

Around 30 people injured as well:

BBC News - Baba Ramdev: India police break up yogi's Delhi protest

 

[Frank Martin]

I dont like Baba Ramdev, he is trying to attract more fame by doin this..the fight lead by Anna Hazare was the real one meant for the real purpose.

 

[marcos98]

this is Indian version of Tiananmen Square incident,state sponsored brutality against a peaceful protest

utter BS .
atleast no one died.

this dongi baba needs to reveal his own sourcws about how he has crore worth of properties and instituions in his name.
one can only omagine the black money he has.

the government shouldn't kneel to such attention seeking whimp of a guy.

anna hazare zindabad, dongi baba murdabad....

 

[Marxist]

utter BS .
atleast no one died.

this dongi baba needs to reveal his own sourcws about how he has crore worth of properties and instituions in his name.
one can only omagine the black money he has.

the government shouldn't kneel to such attention seeking whimp of a guy.

anna hazare zindabad, dongi baba murdabad....

its an state sponsored brutality against peaceful protest ,for u such attacksmay be a b.s. or they desrve it

 

[punit]

thats it .. true face of congress and its supporters are out in open .. get ready to defend country and its honor

 

[ashokdeiva]

I don't understand the policy of the Congress, it is the right of any individual to go on fast to achieve what he wants, Gandhi did it and even the British did not arrest him for provoking unrest, but now Congress is a piece of ruling the nation. and Sonia is a . I don't want my country to be run by some foreigner for the sake she married Rajiv. Congress should be removed from power.

 

[marcos98]

its an state sponsored brutality against peaceful protest ,for u such attacksmay be a b.s. or they desrve it

thats it .. true face of congress and its supporters are out in open .. get ready to defend country and its honor

what is with you guys,
appreciation of hazare is understandable and just .
this baba is only doing this to gain political mileage.
people should see through this BS

 

[punit]

utter BS .
atleast no one died.

this dongi baba needs to reveal his own sourcws about how he has crore worth of properties and instituions in his name.
one can only omagine the black money he has.

the government shouldn't kneel to such attention seeking whimp of a guy.

anna hazare zindabad, dongi baba murdabad....

dear congressi .. what make u believe that same will niot happen with ANNA hazare .. the name u are using to hide ur true identity and motives.

 

[ashokdeiva]

utter BS .
atleast no one died.

this dongi baba needs to reveal his own sourcws about how he has crore worth of properties and instituions in his name.
one can only omagine the black money he has.

the government shouldn't kneel to such attention seeking whimp of a guy.

anna hazare zindabad, dongi baba murdabad....

Baba Ramdev does not own any material property in his name, the donations to him are made via the trust and they are used for useful purpose of building colleges, for people like you i see you have a natural tendency to spore words against people who have money, you don't see that Baba Ramdev is a RobinHood who charges money from the rich and spends it for the welfare of the poor.

WHEN ANNA HAZARA himself supports Ramdev, why don't you support the cause. Black money in SWIZ and Lutuvania has to be brought back to INDIA for her development.