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Baba ramdev arrested....supporters attacked

But the same Anna Hazare is going on a fast to support Ramdev, now what's it gonna be shithead Anna Hazare, fraud Anna Hazare, SOB Anna Hazare?
so what else should ANA HAZARE do in this situation??......do you expect him to say that ramdev has ulterior motives that ramdev should sit back from the movement??
ANA HAZARE is a realist
...that is further going to damage the anti corruption movement...he has no other choice but to support illiterate prick baba ,who comes up with childish statements of banning 500 ,1000 notes ...death penalties and going for regional languages in higher studies...the only reason idiot baba gets support is because these statements are become popular with not so educated masses in the community,who think of him as some sort of revolutionary ...

on a side note get your eyesight checked ..look for the posts..everyonehere supports ana hazare no one has called him with names..
as far as the fast is concerned,i support him for going for this fast ... because congress ruthlessly tackled this anti corruption movement today ....but not that crazy baba
 
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Not necessary that you have to criticise the Congress as some sort of a membership acceptance ritual. The Congress is there because it was voted in, the only way it can be removed is when it is voted out. Corruption is not just a congress phenomenon. The BJP is plenty corrupt, ask anyone in Karnataka. Once you make it a diatribe against your pet peeve (congress, Sonia Gandhi, Rahul, Digvijay...etc), you reduce the debate to a farce. The BJP was in power for nearly 6 years, why wasn't a Lok pal bill introduced, why wasn't the black money brought back after calling it national property or whatever..? Silly to make this a BJP v/s congress issue. You are welcome to criticise the congress or whoever you choose, it is equally the prerogative of others to make their own choices.

We have absolutely nothing in common when it comes to this topic.

Congress not accepting terms that Ramdev wanted on black money as the prime reason of what has happened over the last few days.

Why Congress not accepting Ramdev's terms in an answer and a pointer in itself ?
 
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COME ON ...GOV IT'S NOT ABOUT BABA OUR CONGRESS ..... WE ARE FIGHTING FOR CAUSE.....

PLEASE BE ON TOPIC.....
 
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You have come to this forum for just these one liners.

You have 165 posts since June 2008, why the f *ck am I even wasting my time on you ?

Dude you should check his posts in military history subforums!

Anyways seems the debate has reduced to name calling here with people making shrewd remark on Christian and Muslims, when in reality all of us were born Hindus. And we say Pakistanis see the world through a religious tainted prism!

Once again disapproving BJP or Baba et all is not the same as supporting Congress, I don't have to subscribe to any exclusive political party!
 
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COME ON ...GOV IT'S NOT ABOUT BABA OUR CONGRESS ..... WE ARE FIGHTING FOR CAUSE.....

PLEASE BE ON TOPIC.....

Yes. Please people, don't loose focus because of a incident. Our focus is to get a effective LokPal bill passed, which has some strong and sharp teeth. The political parties are scared esp. Congress and these are their tactics, but the more you try to suppress people's demand the more the demand gets popular. We need an end to the culture of corruption and Black money if India has to become a global power.
 
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Yaaar , how Religion came in this topic........... WE ALL....HINDU, MUSLIM,CHRISTIAN AND ALL OTHER MINORITY .... ARE AGAINST ONLY ONE CAUSE......

Be united..... and be hard ....to the cause...
 
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I still doubt it .

Just like he his opinion against Baba , i too have an opinion on him . Whats the problem ?

No problem with that, but you should have reasons behind your opinion, just as I have against the Baba. You're free to be opinionated without any reason as well!
 
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No problem with that, but you should have reasons behind your opinion, just as I have against the Baba. You're free to be opinionated without any reason as well!

How can presume that i don't have any reasons to base my opinion against that fellow??

I may be proved wrong later ,but the at the moment i have my reasons believe what said about him.

And how can you be so sure your " reasons " for opposing Baba Ramdev ??

You must be having some solid inside information that isn't in media ??
 
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We have absolutely nothing in common when it comes to this topic.

Congress not accepting terms that Ramdev wanted on black money as the prime reason of what has happened over the last few days.

Why Congress not accepting Ramdev's terms in an answer and a pointer in itself ?

Ramdev reached an agreement with the government & then reneged on that agreement. Not done at all if you want to be taken seriously. He wanted an ordinance when the government & he had agreed on a committee. Government can't just issue ordinances because some chap demands it. There is a process to be followed before any law is made. The fact that he wanted an ordinance is itself undemocratic, any major change should be debated in parliament & a law then passed. Bypassing parliament might seem like a minor issue with some folks but in the long term it has some pretty serious repercussions.

Btw, I fail to understand how you insist that the government has to accept Ramdev's terms. Why? Ramdev is no God, even the Anna Hazare camp only asked to be included in the deliberations of the Lokpal bill. They did not insist that the government simply accepts their terms. The reason is simple. The government has to take a final call on any law. You can have as many inputs as possible but to insist that Ramdev somehow be given the divine right to determine the terms is plain silly.

Btw, you are right. We seem to have little in common on this topic. A pity!
 
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Civil society to boycott Lokpal panel meeting

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Agitated over the treatment meted out to Baba Ramdev, Anna Hazare-led civil society on Sunday announced a day-long nationwide hunger strike on Wednesday in protest and decided to boycott the meetings of Lokpal drafting committee in another showdown with the government.

Accusing the government of having suspicious intent with regard to dealing with corruption, Mr. Hazare said the civil society would defy prohibitory orders on Wednesday at Jantar Mantar to protest the police action against Baba Ramdev’s movement.

However, Mr. Hazare said he has “some issues” with the yoga guru and would not share the dais with him at Jantar Mantar.

“We have been interacting with this government in the Joint Committee for the last one and a half months. The incidents of the last night and the proceedings of earlier meetings clearly make government’s intentions in dealing with corruption suspect.

“The government has been trying to crush anti-corruption movement. We have therefore decided not to attend Joint Committee meetings,” he told a press conference.

Mr. Hazare said his side was writing a letter to Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee, who is the chairman of the joint drafting committee on Lokpal Bill, asking the government to make its stand public on some of the key issues related to the anti-corruption legislation.

“We have already made our stand clear on these issues. After we receive government’s response, we will decide whether any useful public purpose would be served in attending joint committee meetings,” he said.

On Baba Ramdev, the Gandhian said he has to “sort out” the issues with the yoga guru before sharing the same platform for any protests. However, he was quick to add that he supported the issue of black money raised by Baba Ramdev.

Asked how he plans to go ahead with his June 8 protest, Mr. Hazare said, “How can the government stop anyone from protesting? The land is not their ‘father’s property.’ The citizens are the masters and the ministers are their servants.”

Live telecast of Lokpal meet

Mr. Hazare also put another pre-condition for attending the joint committee meetings. “In view of government’s barbaric actions, since its intentions to remove corruption have become suspect, we will attend any future meetings of the joint committee only if they were telecast live.”

“If the Government hesitates in bringing a strong Lokpal Bill, we will be left with no option but to go back to Jantar Mantar,” he said.

He said, if the government does not learn the lesson, a bigger agitation will be launched, emphasising the need for launching a “second freedom struggle.”

Comparing the government’s crackdown on Baba Ramdev’s supporters to the Jallianwala Bagh massacre, the Gandhian questioned, “What is the difference between the British autocracy and today’s democracy?”

When asked if the government should resign over last night’s incident, Mr. Hazare said, “What would happen if the government changes? They are all the same. The new leaders will be the brothers of the old one.”

Joint Committee co-chair Shanti Bhushan demanded that the Prime Minister explain the reasons that provoked the police action on Baba’s supporters last night and said if the government doesn’t make its stand clear, another nationwide agitation will be launched.

“Last night’s brutal assault of the government reminds one of the Emergency. It is almost an Emergency-like situation. Today is June 5, the Sampoorn Kranti Diwas. People of this country rose against government injustice 35 years back. Time has come for the people to similarly rise against corruption,” Shanti Bhushan said.

Social activist Arvind Kejriwal maintained that the Hazare group is supporting the demands raised by Baba Ramdev and is not in favour of any group or a political party.

“We aren’t supporting any individual or a party. We are fighting in favour of a cause,” Mr. Kejriwal said.

The Hindu : News / National : Civil society to boycott Lokpal panel meeting
 
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How can presume that i don't have any reasons to base my opinion against that fellow??

I may be proved wrong later ,but the at the moment i have my reasons believe what said about him.

And how can you be so sure your " reasons " for opposing Baba Ramdev ??

You must be having some solid inside information that isn't in media ??

I already put across my reasons, why don't you do the same, then we can do the anatomy and reached a conclusion!
 
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Where is our dear PM MMS and what he have to say about this matter? or is that Sonia Gandhi still now not pressed the play button.
 
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Ramdev reached an agreement with the government & then reneged on that agreement. Not done at all if you want to be taken seriously. He wanted an ordinance when the government & he had agreed on a committee. Government can't just issue ordinances because some chap demands it. There is a process to be followed before any law is mad3. The fact that he wanted an ordinance is itself undemocratic, any major change should be debated in parliament & a law then passed. Bypassing parliament might seem like a minor issue with some folks but in the long term it has some pretty serious repercussions.

Btw, I fail to understand how you insist that the government has to accept Ramdev's terms. Why? Ramdev is no God, even the Anna Hazare camp only asked to be included in the deliberations of the Lokpal bill. They did not insist that the government simply accepts their terms. The reason is simple. The government has to take a final call on any law. You can have as many inputs as possible but to insist that Ramdev somehow be given the divine right to determine the terms is plain silly.

Whats wrong with you guys ??

Talking like absolute inne .

If Baba wont negotia with Govt in power , where do he go , UN ??

didn't Anna Hazare too kept negotiang with the Govt till the end ??

He wanted an ordinance when the government & he had agreed on a committee

Thats lie being peddled by the govt and propagated by the section of media.

He didn't agree committee alone and spend nearly one hour yesterday afternoon , speaking why he rejected committee and demand concrete action ie an ordinance declaring black money as national asset.
 
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Where is our dear PM MMS and what he have to say about this matter? or is that Sonia Gandhi still now not pressed the play button.

MMS is a spineless person..he won't open his mouth without getting permission from dear mad'am
 
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